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THE STELLIUM - 4 or more planets in the same House

THE STELLIUM
by Lynn Koiner

A stellium occurs when 4 or more planets fall in a House. This configuration creates too much energy coming into the activities and affairs of that House. It generates obsessive energy. The individual becomes obsessively focused with the activities of that House. The affairs of that House take up all of the energies of the individual. It is essential that the individual GET OUT OF THAT HOUSE by going to the opposite House. A stellium likes an opposition to it. The opposition makes the individual clearly aware that there is a choice whereas a stellium without an opposition can get trapped more easily in the congested House. Besides the obsessive quality, the House activities will be upset for long periods when any planets transit a hard aspect to the planets in T-square. Everything goes awry!

1st HOUSE: When 4 or more planets fall in the 1st House, so many energies are coming into the personality segment that the individual can change from one day to the next. This can cause physical disabilities. If the individual cannot control the energies of all of the planets, they become too strong. Lessons in patience and self-control are needed. Since self-centeredness can become a problem, working through partnerships and 7th House matters such as counseling or consultant work can be helpful. A partner or other people, such as clients, can balance the personality by drawing the energy, the focus, away from the individual’s own personality. One young man with a stellium in Libra was excessive self-conscious. He did not like the focus to be on himself. He submerges his identity with others. He went into the most dangerous brand of the Israeli army. His mother commented that “You cannot say anything to him. He is sensitive to any criticism (self-absorbed).” His attitude is “What’s wrong with me?!!”

NOTE: Lyndon Johnson had a stellium in Virgo with Leo rising. He was a very arrogant man but he accomplished great things when he took the focus away from himself and obsessed upon human rights issues.

2nd HOUSE: Too much energy in the 2nd House is not good for finances, even though these people can do well salary-wise. With too many energies, too many choices, the financial reins should be given to a partner, a financial consultant – letting go of attachments to the physical is essential here! These people can get so wrapped up in managing their own possessions and finances that these things rule their lives. Any little transit from Mars or, worse yet, an outer planet, will cause chaos in the area of finances and possessions. This, in turn, can affect the health. One client had real estate holdings around the country and he wrote a book. He would not release the energy to an agent -he was promoting the book himself and he traveled around the country trying to sell his properties. He exhausted himself holding on to everything.
A friend with that unpleasant outer planet stellium in Leo (late 1940s) says that she is always being sucked into financial crises.

3rd HOUSE: Many planets here can produce a “mental collector” with all sorts of ideas and mental interests. Too much energy here can short-circuit the mind so that it does not feel comfortable in literary areas – too many choices. They find it hard to relax mentally. The mental energy should be thrown into the 9th House wherein knowledge is shared and theories and concepts are developed from what is acquired mentally. There is a potential for consciousness expansion. Formal education is essential here. I have talked with many clients with this pattern. They know they have abilities for writing and teaching but they do not know what subjects they should choose. Yet, when they focus, they obsess mentally, losing perspective and becoming oblivious to what is going on around them. Travel without any mental activity is a release.

The daughter of one client writes ads freelance but she obsesses over ideas causing mental frustration. She acted as a surrogate mom to her siblings (obsessing over them). She is very into her own thinking.
Anytime many planets are focused in a cadent House the individual becomes a mental ponderer. They think so much that they actually miss opportunities. They find their timing is bad as a result. It is like sitting at the bus stop thinking so hard about what you are going to do at the Mall once you get there that you miss the bus – all of the buses! People with many planets in Houses 3, 6, 9 and 12 need to get out of their heads and be more physical.

An old astrological axiom is that, if the ruler of the 2nd House is part of a 3rd House stellium, the individual has a lot of ideas about making money but NO MONEY!

4th HOUSE: There is a need to take the energies out of the “personal” home and put them into a professional activity that deals with 4th House issues. The home life is often tumultuous, especially finding upset with every little transit. They do well in such 4th House areas as real estate, building and construction, archeology and anthropology, history, historical preservation or activities connected with the past. It favors working with weather conditions and environmental issues. One woman helps adoptees find their biological parents. Another was a mortician! Their obsession is dwelling too much on their own past when they keep their energies in the personal sector.
The past is always a frame of reference for almost any 4th House placement, stellium or not. The individual gets emotionally stuck in the past. Getting out and working the land is very helpful. I have observed that people who work with environmental issues obsess and lose perspective about what is really workable.

5th HOUSE: This is the house of creativity but, with a stellium, there can be too many options. Hence, there may be a potential for helping to cultivate their own creativity. They work well with creative groups. In romance, the love life can be a maze. There is a need to concentrate more on social relationships in order to take the heat off of the solar plexus and its personal, emotional involvements. They need to work with impersonal relationships and KEEP them impersonal’ While they often do not have children, their own children do take up too much of their energy. They frequently have child-like qualities – do whatever is fun. I know 2 individuals with a 5th House stellium. One was a teacher whose students were like her own children. She invited them to her home. She became very involved in their problems. She loved being a teacher because she was the drama teacher and helped the students create films.

The 5th House rules a specific field of psychology – the development of the personality, psychodramas and the use of the chakras in healing and personality training (Carolyn Myss). The 2nd individual is a psychotherapist. She has studied chakra therapy. Her favorite is child therapy. She never has clients hang on for years. They work on their problems and they get cured and leave.

6th HOUSE: Many Virgo traits show up with a stellium in the House, even when there are no Virgo planets. They obsess upon their jobs and their work. They are perfectionists who too easily get wrapped up in their work and menial tasks. Work and service activities absorb too much energy because of their affinity with the menial. This can lead to hypochondria or, at least, a lot of complaining about their work. They are dedicated to some service work – professional and personal (care-taking others). They need to be in charge and to be self-sufficient (people never get so close that they car criticize, try to change or tell them what to do) but they also need to learn to delegate the menial to others.

Always there is a need to go to the 12th House and get away from work and find some seclusion. They must also find work that has a purpose. Unfulfilling, menial, routine tasks can lead to health disorders in the nature of the sign but relating to assimilation and elimination. A Libra stellium would cause lower back pain (kidney connected) when work and work relationships become chaotic, Virgo would produce skin irritations or constipation (holding it all in), Leo causes back problems from shouldering too much of a work load, Cancer would cause stomach and digestive disorders due to fears and insecurities in work activities, Gemini could cause allergies and respiratory problems when the individual feels trapped and cannot “breath” in the workplace.
The emphasis here is to take charge in service activities, delegate the menial and get away from work as much as possible. Never work more than 40 hours per week.

One individual with a Virgo stellium has lupus. She is a perfectionist and becoming ill forced her to take a break from her work obsessions.
NOTE: I have found that the 6th House rules congenital health problems.
7th HOUSE: Individuals with a 7th House stellium as the least likely to marry or stay married. So many energies come out in a relationship that they feel swallowed up by other people in close relationships. They are often loners or they suddenly end relationships to break the relationship obsession. Libran traits manifest in relationships, specifically indecision when dealing with others. It is excellent for work in counseling or consultant occupations. These de-personalize the one-on-one relationships. The many planets in the 7th can describe many types of clients with whom the individual would deal. This is excellent for a lawyer, arbitrator, psychologist and business consultant.

I have observed this stellium firsthand. The individual complains that the relationships takes up so much of their energy that they lose their own identity. It is easier to be a loner. However, upon closer inspection, I observed that, when involved in a relationship, the individual obsesses upon that relationship to the point wherein he or she loses perspective, becoming oblivious to anyone or anything else. A friend with such a stellium visited the United States. He stayed in Baltimore for 2 weeks and then he stayed with me. When he was with me, he forgot all about his friends in Baltimore. And, when he left to stay with one of my students, he became oblivious to me and certain obligations that he had to me. He focused in on the person he was with and lost sight of everything else. If I had not seen this myself, I never would have understood this phenomena. A very independent friend with such a stellium would always lose herself in a relationship, devoting all of her energies to what the partner needed without regard for her own needs To end this obsession, she would just run away from the relationship.

8th HOUSE: The 8th House stellium must be in control of one’s own resources and finances. If not, situations that seem totally beyond his/her control or upheavals seem to plague the life. Gaining control over the uncontrollable is important sc that studies in the occult, life after death, medicine, holistic health, financial planning are good outlets. In handling large amounts of money, the individual should always be personally in charge. Accountants and other financial planners can really mess things up.

I believe that the 8th House rules all things totally beyond our control and our attitude towards such affairs. There is a pattern of taking control and then knowing when to release. Obsessions with the uncontrollable can greatly complicate the life. One individual with a stellium in Cancer in a financial planning yet he always feels out of control in his relationships because I have observed that he disempowers his relationships – he does everything and makes all the decisions, and then the other person cannot stand alone. This is a problem in knowing when to release. The healing talent of the 8th House is taking control, orchestrating the changes and repairs alone and then releasing it (to a client).

There can be problems sorting out sexuality or a conflict between sexuality and spirituality.

9th HOUSE: As with all Cadent Houses, the individual can come to live too much in the head – the ponderer -and not enough in the practical reality of life and real, livable philosophies. These mentally oriented people can easily live in a world of philosophy and theory. Theories about life and relationships can keep them from living in the real world which is so typical of Sagittarius. Rather than become moralistic, they need to teach and share what they know – then allow others to draw their own conclusions. They should never be oriented towards any single religious, spiritual or academic point of view – of course, they are never really sure of what they believe anyway! Instead of always searching for a philosophy, something to believe in, a meaning to life, they should share what they know and travel to learn from others.
Travel always helps to gain a perspective. I have observed some people with the a 9th House stellium in Fixed signs always thinking about travel but they stay at home! In going to the 3rd House, you teach what you know, get the information out rather than just consuming more.

In a class with two 9th House stellium students, one was aggressive and one was passive but both agreed that THEY HAVE AN OPINION, especially about religion and politics! They were obsessive in their beliefs. One was offended when people asked for advice but did not follow it or ignored it.

10th HOUSE: With a stellium in the 10th House, there are problems with the professional choice and dealing with authority figures. The professional life should be connected with the home and one’s own property (hotel, day care or just being a house wife) or working out of one’s own home or property. Being one’s own boss takes the pressure off of authority figure confrontations with every minor transit that afflicts the 10th House! There could have been a very intense relationship with one parent and this, in turn, can create intense confrontations that affect the career.

11th HOUSE: Involvements with groups, associations and organizations swallow up the individual and keep the individual from gaining a perspective (lost in the group cause or values like a lemming going to sea). They find that they become part of the herd in terms of collective values when in any group. They need to work with more personal goals and values and work with small, creative groups in which they feel a sense of control and stability.
In going to the 5th House, I say to stay with a group of about 5 people. This could be a scouting group, an exercise gathering, a study group or a small support group. Greater fulfillment goes through focusing with one’s own children.

12th HOUSE: This is the Serve-or-Suffer House. These people may have come from a past life monastery experience. In this life, they need to get outside of themselves and involve themselves with service to others or they can become quite neurotic! In coming from a past life situation of seclusion which formed a life pattern of isolation, they must break this pattern now! There is a need to get outside of one’s self and work with others. It is easy, however, to escape within rather than go out into the world.

One woman with a stellium in Aquarius had her finest hour when she dedicated many years of her life to taking care of a disabled child. When not involved in service, she retreated to being a neurotic recluse!

It must be noted that 12th House people can never be out all of the time. They need to retreat, to be alone and to be quiet. They cannot be ON 24 hours a day. They find it easy to disappear, to be invisible and tune out when around more aggressive or assertive types. I have observed 12th House students simply shut down when more assertive types speak up or interrupt.

  1. Lynn Says:

    SUKI (11-2011): As the article states, Stelliums are powerful — too powerful. With so much energy in one House, that House sucks up all of your energy and interests. The affairs of that House can take over your life. This is why it is important to GO TO THE OPPOSITE HOUSE, as the article says. It is easier to go to the opposite House when there is an opposition…or even planets in that opposite House.
    Yes, the more planets in a House is more powerful and more absorbing.

    I did not find this type of intensity when the stellium was in a progresssed chart — at least, in my personal experience.

  2. Lynn Koiner Says:

    S8 (12-2011): I generally do not use asteroids and I never use the Nodes (the Nodes are not an object in the sky, just a point where the Moon crosses the Sun’s apparent path.

    You need to read my interpretation of the House Stelliums.

    The 6th House definitely has a stellium. Work and even health issues (stelliums are prone to this) can take up you entire life. In going to the 12th, there is a need to have private time, away from other people, have alone time and not allow other to get to you, to take up your time.

    The 12th House rules distance places (once I went 45 miles away and this worked) where people do not know you.

    The psychological key is that you have a Occidental chart pattern, most of the planets on the right side. There is a “needs to be needed” that allows the needs and emergencies of others to take priority over your own needs.
    I encourage such people to get a job where they get paid for this! A service profession with a time limit — 9am to 5pm — where you get PAID for this is helpful.

  3. Lynn Koiner Says:

    TARA (1-2012): Then, you have a stellium by sign only and NOT by House. This stellium makes Taurus energies — and problems — strong, influencing House of Relationships and Finances.

  4. Lynn Koiner Says:
    STELLIUM IN 8TH HOUSE: Interpretation of 8th

    8th HOUSE: The 8th House stellium must be in control of one’s own resources and finances. If not, situations that seem totally beyond his/her control or upheavals seem to plague the life.
    Gaining control over the uncontrollable is important so that studies in the occult, life after death, medicine, holistic health, financial planning are good outlets.
    In handling large amounts of money, the individual should always be personally in charge. Accountants and other financial planners can really mess things up.

    I believe that the 8th House rules all things totally beyond our control and our attitude towards such affairs. There is a pattern of taking control and then knowing when to release.

    Obsessions with the uncontrollable can greatly complicate the life.

    One individual with a stellium in Cancer in a financial planning yet he always feels out of control in his relationships because I have observed that he disempowers his relationships – he does everything and makes all the decisions, and then the other person cannot stand alone.

    This is a problem in knowing when to release.

    The healing talent of the 8th House is taking control, orchestrating the changes and repairs alone and then releasing it (to a client).

    There can be problems sorting out sexuality or a conflict between sexuality and spirituality.

    The big problem with the 8th House is that it can contribute to obsessive disorders when things are not perfect.

  5. Lynn Koiner Says:
    COMPOSITE STELLIUM:

    This is a good question but, in my experience, the Houses occupied in a composite are those areas that the couple needs to focus upon to keep the relationship together.
    The stellium would very strongly emphasize such an area.

    For example, in my long term relationship, there is a strong focus upon the 3rd House and getting along with Bill’s family (the 4th would be having a family of our own but we were too old when we met).
    Fortunately, I love his family as I have none of my own.
    So, this is how I use the composite stellium.

  6. Lynn Koiner Says:
    STELLIUM IN TRANSITS: The stelliums are activated by transit. When one planet is hit, all are activated.

    Vedic is very different from the western style that I use. Here, stelliums, interceptions and retrogrades are important, as well as the outer planets.

    Google Donna Cunningham as she has Stellium articles for downloading. She is wonderful.

  7. Cherie Harris Says:

    Hey there! Interesting info on stelliums..I have 4 (difficult planets) in my 7th house and yes, I have found the most difficulties and obsessions occur in my relationships! So disheartening but im determined to take what I have stay strong and evolve. Excuse my ignorance, this is new info to me but how exactly do you go to the opposite house? I really want to settle some of this draining energy overload!

    C x

    Saturn, Pluto, Jupiter and Mars in 7th House

  8. Lynn Koiner Says:

    CHERIE (10-2012): In leaving the 7th House for the 1st, you need to emphasize your own personal needs and not those of the people in your life.

    Those planets that you indicate are positioned in your 7th House are very difficult.

    Relationships need to be on YOUR terms so this can favor acting as a counsel, adviser, consultant, health practitioner — any career wherein you would have clients and these 4 planets would describe their issues (not your own – but they are indeed your own issues).

  9. Nia Ob Says:

    Hi, I’m new to astrology and I just did my birth charts at the suggestion of a friend, who said she’d never seen anything like them. I found this page trying to Google someone else like me. I have Sun, Moon, Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, and Pluto all in the Sixth House, and all but Mercury are in Libra. I love to work and I am a perfectionist, and I’m also happiest at jobs where I work with people and the public, but I have had at least 30 different jobs in 10 years. I wonder if anyone here might have some advice on how to find an equilibrium on the employment front with these kind of planetary influences? Also, what else might this birth arrangement mean for me?

  10. Edda Says:

    Dear Lynn – if you see a chart like a house with 12 rooms and 10 people are living inside – hmm, so you see it as a problem, when 4 Peoples are in the same room?
    Honestly – I am studing Astrology since 1977, got a huge library of all the astrologycal books I could find and never ever came across an explanation of a stellium like yours…
    For instance Bob Dylan – he has 5 planets in the 5th house – do you really think he has a problem with it and should right away direct his energy into the 11th house? And we all could not listen to his great songs? I think you should revisit your Theory about the stelliums :o)
    Kind thougts
    Edda

  11. Lynn Koiner Says:

    EDDA (11-2012): Since you have been studying astrology since 1977, you should have understood better what I was saying.

    The Stellium House becomes an intense focus in the life. But, it can take up your entire life and you need to find a balance — by going to the opposite house, balancing (as in Dylan’s case) the 5th and the 11th. In the 5th, one can become self-absorbed with one’s own creativity – going to the 11th House reaches out to groups and working others who share a common vision.

    You totally misunderstood my interpretation.
    There is always an excellence or a specialty with a clustering of planets (I have a wedge pattern) but, with too many planets in one House, there is a need to find a balance.

    I have observed (since I started astrology professionally) many stelliums.

  12. Michael Zizis Says:

    Hi Lynn:

    Thank you so much in helping me penetrate the veil about the stellium.

    My horoscope is absurdly rich with oppositions. I have been an astrological counsellor for more than thirty years. My clients with stelliums have most often found good understanding when I review their issues with them in session. I have never felt as fully satisfied with explaining and exploring these mighty lopsided concentrations of energy with them.

    As information emerges on Adam Lanza the mass murderer of 20 people at Sandy Hook school, with Moon in Capricorn conjunct his Uranus /Neptune,
    plus Saturn close by in Aquarius, I read your take on the danger of stelliums.

    Suddenly {bravo Uranus eurekas!} I saw the meaning of stelliums in the brightest light. Yes, Lanza’s chart portrays tragic and horrid endings. But clearly the light of astrology tells us more about people who might be ticking time bombs than any other approach.

    Thank You for your insights!

  13. RB Says:

    I have a third house Stellium in Capricorn with Mercury, Mars, Venus, Uranus, Saturn and Neptune. I was born in early 1990. Pluto is currently transiting the Stellium, now conjuncting Mars, and it’s so far, not exactly been a walk in the park.

    The mental and emotional anguish is overwhelming and quite simply, I feel like I am falling apart along with everything else in my life. The heightened mental activity makes it difficult to sleep, so I’m here reading your article at 3 AM. :-)

    I wanted to thank you for writing an informative article; many things you have written here ring true to me – I was given a new job opportunity recently and spent so much time thinking about it and all the possibilities, and everything that could go right or wrong, that they informed me that they felt I wasn’t even serious about the position.

    :-)

  14. Robin Says:
    Which house system do you use? My planets jump around depending on the house system.

  15. Lynn Koiner Says:

    ROBIN (12-2012): You have asked a good question.
    I use Placidius.
    Regardless, you do have a stellium by sign, giving an intensity and focus with Scorpio.
    You can also have a stellium by House. The House that contains 4 or more planets is the emphasized House.

  16. Susan Says:

    Hello Lynn:

    I have found your web writing very interesting, and would be further interested to read any books you might have published.

    I was wondering about the effect of a stellium that is intercepted (with Sun in opposition to Neptune in 6th also intercepted!) How does that affect the “intensity” factor of the expression/obsessiveness. Given that my stellium is also in the retiring 12th house (Sun, Mercury, Mars and Jupiter), and that the ruler of my 12th house is in the 12th would that further effect direct expression?

    Secondly, you briefly mentioned “problems” that the stellium presented via signs (e.g., Taurus stellium represents money issues). Could you say more about that?

  17. Lynn Koiner Says:

    Susan (1-2013): You have asked an excellent question but I cannot add more than described for the 12th House, in terms of interpretation.
    However, planets intercepted become blocked, unable to express themselves except for the House that they are in.
    This is difficult when it is in the 12th House.
    First, I have articles on interceptions so read these on my website.
    Next, the tendency to retreat and become invisible is too strong. Mars-Neptune indicates that you need to direct your energies towards championing the causes of others.
    The man who founded the American Cancer Society had Mars in Pisces in the 12th opposing Neptune and, after his wife died, he championed the cause for a cancer cure.

    With Neptune in the 6th, your work should involve a dedication to an ideal of service.

    I would associate the sign with health issues. In repressing self, this often causes a slowing of the throat chakra and the thyroid. Low energy and fatigue result from an under-active thyroid — and low body temperature. See if you temperature is low. If so, this must be addressed — usually a gynecologist can order a hormone saliva test, the only accurate way to determine the functioning of the thyroid. Blood tests are useless.

    For persons such as yourself with strong placements in Cadent Houses and an intercept in a cadent house, I suggest a relocation — mid-west and more western locations would bring the 12th House planets out of that House into the 1st House.
    www.astro.com may offer the Astro-Carto-graph charts.

  18. Gloryah Says:

    Hello Lynn
    Thank you very much for providing us all with valuable astrological information that we can all ponder and reflect upon based on our own personal experiences.

    My question for you is, in March I will have 7 planets (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Neptune, Uranus and Chiron) transiting my 3rd house in Pisces (phew!)- would these transiting planets set up in this arrangement like a stellium have the same affect and interpretation as if they would be in a natal chart? On March 11th the Moon will also be joining the crowd making it 8 planetary bodies in the same house and sign.

    Wouldn’t engaging in 9th house activities in Virgo (opposite house for balance as suggested) be just a more intense version of the 3rd house?

    Thanks for replying.
    Gloryah

  19. Lynn Koiner Says:

    GLORYAH (1-2013): This is a good question but this is not a stellium. Your 3rd House is only activated when, first, an outer planet aspects a natal position. If Uranus or Neptune do not make an aspect to a natal planet, you may not notice anything.
    The faster moving planets can act as triggers for the slow moving planets.
    But, you could direct the energies into the 9th, if this is an active time for you.

    If you find yourself “thinking” too much, too much mental activity and insufficient “doing,” this would be a period when you would need to DO SOMETHING with these thoughts.
    The 3rd House can be satisfied with just talking about – it is more important to take action.

  20. Elizabeth Says:

    I found this page after googling a question concerning the effect of Neptune in a 10th house stellium. I understand what you say about stelliums and it makes sense, I have 5 planets in the tenth house not far apart in degrees. The first is Venus in libra conjunct north node.(libra sun, scorpio neptune, mercury,jupiter) I always thought that combination meant I should push the career out in the world. I did not choose a mate carefully and found myself disrupting my family when I left. At which time I was offered much activity in my world to support myself. Ten years later I am exhausted and questioning and reaching back to help my offspring in what ever way I can. I again did not choose a mate with my best interests in mind and because of his very fixed nature instead of moving to a larger place my studio was moved out of my house to a down town location with some exposure but , I find after a year, I don’t like it, I want to be at home. So the 4rth house south node comfy secure in the home is a good thing?

  21. Lynn Koiner Says:

    ELIZABETH (2-2013): First, take the Nodes out of the picture. I use the Nodes in a very different way. I do not rely upon what some astrologer said many years ago and now every one repeats what he said without question. This is what astrologers have done without really observing how the Nodes really work.

    I am 67.5 years and I have been observing the Nodes since the 1960s. Look at the sign first, not so much the Houses. The South Node in Aries wants to you be independent, your own person and take charge of your life — like an Aries. Only then can you return to the North Node and coordinate your energies with others (without losing your self in these relationships).

    I call it the journey of the Prodigal Child — to leave Libra for Aries. If you stay in Libra, you will never be your own person — only what others want you to be.

    You need to make that journey to Aries and be independent so that, when you return to Libra, you can coordinate your efforts with other “task-oriented” people, each working together but independently.

    That said – a friend has such a stellium in Libra, born in October 1943, in her 10th House. She was a teacher first and this allowed her to work independently. Later, she started a small company where she worked with others. However, one partner took over and cheated every one out of the company. Neptune is there too so she did not see it coming.
    She is now retired and works for Hospice groups — everything is independent yet working with people.

    You need to be fair to yourself, have your business from your own home/property and not work under the immediate direction of others.

    There is too much to say so I will end here.

  22. Lynn Koiner Says:
    STELLIUM IN 10th (2-2013): What I can tell you about the 10th House is found in this article. Yes, you can work out of your own property but you can free lance, work independently, where you are not under the thumb or a “boss” or supervisor.

    You do NOT have to stay at home and be a house wife!

  23. Lynn Koiner Says:

    LUCIA: Yes, a stellium in the 10th is not easy for professional activities wherein one has to deal with authority figures.

  24. JL Says:

    Thanks for the article.
    I have a stellium (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars) in the 9th.
    Incredibly intense drive to explore ideas, philosophies, wisdom, spirituality. Great difficulty keeping my feet on the ground.
    I notice most of my angular houses are ruled by planets in my stellium (Leo rising), perhaps further contributing to difficulty taking action.
    Do you think it’s important to explore other houses besides the opposite in order to move toward balance?

    LYNN: Absolutely, JL, glad you asked this question.
  25. Anne Says:

    Hi Lynn, Great info, but still confused. Born 8/18/55…Jupiter, Venus, Mars, Sun, Moon, Pluto all within 12 degrees, in the 4th/Leo with Virgo Merc also in 4th. Scorpio saturn[6th] squares Jupiter and so the rest, as it does my Aquarius MH/10th…which is without any planets…how am I to activate it. Coming up on 2nd Saturn return and I am feeling the panic. Btw my own family has been a misery and completely unsupportive the whole of my life…any solution or direction would be immensely appreciated.

  26. Lynn Koiner Says:

    ANNE (3-2013): With a stellium in the 4th House, you need to stay at least 200 miles from your family.

    The 2nd Saturn Return can make you ill if you do not put yourself and your well-being first and foremost!

    I always say that, under difficult Saturn Transits, you need to say NO when demands or even supposed opportunities are presented to you — they will only be a lot of hard work with little reward.

    The 4th House rules the place in which you work so you need to define boundaries there as well.

    This is all too lengthy and complicated to discuss on a website forum.

  27. Rajiv Oza Says:
    What does it signifies when I have 5 planets in my 7th house( Sa, Sun, Mo, Pl and Me) What all kind of problems would I face and how do I overcome them and stabilize myself?
  28. Angela Says:
    Do you have stelliums? I’m confused on mine because I heard that two of the planets need to be something different than Mercury Sun and Venus because they are naturally in close proximity on a regular basis. My Sun, Venus, Mercury, Jupiter, and North node( I know nodes don’t count) are in my third house but my Sun isn’t cappy so it would be by house only or not a stellium at all?
  29. Lynn Koiner Says:

    RAJIV (4-2013): Please read what I have written about the 7th House Stellium in the article.
    To analyze the problems that might occur with this stellium would require a lengthy analysis of your chart – impossible to do on this website.
    With Saturn and Pluto, it can indicate a very strong partner who provides the direction in the relationship or a weak partner who you need to parent.
    You can have good relationships but you must be cautious.

    ANGELA: I have 3 planets in my 10th House so this is NOT a stellium. It does not even feel like a stellium, as it is a strong career indicator for me.

    Yes, the Sun is often — but not always — close to Mercury and Venus. Sometimes they can be 1 sign apart. My Mercury is at 22 Leo in the 12th but my Sun is at 6 Virgo in the 1st House.

    But, if they are in the same sign, there would only need to be 1 more planet to make a stellium, requiring 4 planets.
    You have a stellium by House in the 3rd.

    The 3rd House stellium can live in one’s head, thinking about doing but rarely doing or acting upon those thoughts. Thoughts can become very real.

    It is essential that you “go to the 9th House” – travel, education and exposure to different beliefs, cultures and philosophies is essential to getting you outside of your head.

    It also helps to relocate to another time zone that would relocate the 3rd House planets into another quadrant of the chart. You can calculate this with an astro-carto-graphy chart.

  30. Chrysocolla Says:

    I have a Scorpio Pluto in the 3rd 0 degree.
    In the 4th house: Scorpio Saturn in 12 degree, Scorpio Mars in 19 degree, Scorpio Moon in 27 degree, Sagittarius Uranus in 12 degree.
    All of these planets are retrograde(except Moon).
    I am a biologist/ecologist so environmental issues are important for me. But I can’t find a job for years..
    an astrologer wrote me that I have to (!!) be a Hellinger therapist or work in a place where I can help mothers who are alone with their babies..I am interested about being a therapist but this astrologer was so obsessed that I can do only this 2 kind of job..it’s funny I think bacause I think I can ,live out’ this energy in other ways.
    I live 350 miles away from my family and it’s very important for me.
    But now, Saturn is sitting in my IC and that ‘far away life’ has collapsed and I am with my family again..
    Can you advice me sg? Nowadays I don’t know what can I do with my Pluto in the 3rd(and Aries Mercury opposite in the 9th) because everywhere I look, there is a lie..and no one see it, and I don’t say anything because they laugh at me or want me to shut up..

    Thanks
    Chrysocolla

  31. Lynn Koiner Says:

    CHRYSOCOLLA (4-2013): First, I only answer questions about my articles, since I receive 2000 hits each day – it is overwhelming.

    Second, I would never insist that someone pursue a very specific career – when it is not your specialty. Find another astrologer.

    About the 4th House Stellium – yes, you need to be at least 200 miles from your family so they will drain the life force from you. But, now that you are forced to live with family with Saturn transiting the 4th, it is essential that you define boundaries for these people and learn to say NO when it is necessary.

    Obviously, there is some lesson that you need to learn about dealing with such a controlling family – but take any job just to get out. Then, you can find something later that you prefer.

  32. Chrysocolla Says:

    Thank you for the answer I learned a lot.
    Your article helped me to understand what I have to do now and the future. I have read a lot of books about astrology but I hadn’t find the solution. I felt/feel like I am in a boat and every kind of creature wants me to get off into the water..and I know this is part of the process.
    Your article is a Saturn’s gift for me:-)

    Chrysocolla

  33. Gwyn Says:

    Hi Lynn,

    What about a Composite stellium in the 12th house with Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto in Libra. I heard so many bad things about it. Is it not advisable to try this relationship?
    Thanks.

  34. Lynn Koiner Says:

    GWYN (4-2013): I have been in a relationship with a man for over 20 years and our composite has a stellium.

    I rarely look at the composite chart as I find that they do not work very well — yet, some astrologers do like them.

    I prefer to use a chart comparison and an analysis of the 2 charts individually. Only once have I advised a woman to get away from a man she inquired about — later he stabbed her, even though she ended the relationship as a advised (she is OK).

    I usually tell the client what the other person is like – and then ask if he or she can live with those traits. The choice is always theirs to make.

  35. Allie Says:

    Hi, I have a 8 year old daughter who has born just 30 min before the partial solar eclipse at night. She has jupiter, mars, sun, moon, mercury stelium in her third house in libra. She has a saturn in 12 th house cancer and square to her sun, moon and mercury. She has leo rising. Venus in second house virgo, pluto at fifth at sagit. neptune at 6th aquarius and uranus at the 7 in piscess. She is very good at school in gifted class and she is a great artist she can draw, paint, make movies, cartoons all day long she won several rewards. On the other hand at home and family matters she want everything in her way, love to argue a lot, pessimistic despite all the good things she has she always sees the other side of the glass. Gets bored very easy and not very good relationship with her little sister as well. I mean we werent the perfect sisters with my sister either but there was always love and some play time as well. She either totally ignores her or violant to her. We are really strugling trying to raise her the right way. We are a very loving and undestanding family but she doesnt feel the same way. Is the saturn square does that?Any suggestions and reviews pls?

  36. Lynn Koiner Says:

    STELLIUM in 3rd HOUSE/SATURN AFFLICTIONS: (Allie)

    There are 2 types indicated by Saturn in the 12th —

    1) The first pattern is indicative of a relationship with the father that was conducive of much fear, insecurity and distrust associated with authority figures.

    Authority figures breed an inner fear, fear of abandonment, that hangs over the individual like a black cloud.

    The Saturnian role model in their life was weak and ineffective. This engendered a fear of authority and especially authority figures who would never support you. They lack trust in “the system.” Like the father, they fear that authority can abandon you without a moments notice.

    2) The 2nd pattern is much more independent and very different from type 1.

    The 2nd pattern manifests through a life whereby the individual cultivates his or her own structuring system, one that has no connection with what is most commonly done in the real world. These people function very well being self-employed or where they can create and work in their own individualistic system/structure.

    My father is an excellent example of this. He grew up on a farm where he made his own rules, being the oldest male of 5 children. He cultivated his own rules and these rules did not fit for others or outside his self-created world. He became what he loved – a farmer who farmed. There were times when my mother would nag him to take a government job where he could get a good retirement. He never would have survived working this way.

    When you create your own unique rules and structuring system, you cannot really live outside of this type of system. There may be a fear of having to adapt to the systems of others.

    When these people are self-employed, they function extremely well. Outside this world, they feel like a square peg that just does not fit into the round hole…and they never will be able to fit.

    NOTE: A well known astrologer who has made a lot of money writing different types of books has this position.

    STELLIUM IN 3rd: When she is older, I advise moving to a different time zone in order to get those planets out of the Cadent House. Look at an Astro-Carto-Graphy map to find her best location (www.astro.com offers this – so do I but it is not free when I do this)

    Lastly, Libra children believe everything you say about them.
    If you tell them that they are bad, disruptive or stupid, they believe this and behave this way.

    If you tell a Libra that they are beautiful, smart, wonderfully behaved…they believe this whether it is true or not and this impacts their behavior.

  37. Allie Says:

    Thank you for your response. It was really helPfull she is very independant and she does like working alone and she already has her own rules:) she is very strong willed i guess because of the all trines to her sun moon and mercury from pluto. She is a wonderfull, sweet and special child and we always say and show our affections. At the same time as a parent try to teach the rules and what is right and wrong like every parent and that is what she doesnt like :) Thanks again.

  38. Richard Says:

    Hi folks,

    My solar return (SR) 2013 chart shows 9 planetary bodies in the 12th House…in Pisces. My natal sun sign is Pisces, AC is Sagittarius, together with Moon in Sagittarius, Pluto in the 8th House Virgo, North Node is Aquarius 2nd House (and therefore South Node Leo 8th House).

    There seems to be a lot going on here! With natal Sun Opposition Pluto, I’m developing an acute aware, from Feb 2013, of ‘shadow’ projections. This observation becomes clearer when I’m noting projections which relate to the following planets in my 2013 12th House, as they appear bordering on the 11th House to the left and moving right toward the 1st House:

    * Neptune: SR 2013 in 12th House Pisces, natal 11th House Sagittarius.
    * Mercury: SR 2013 in 12th House Pisces, natal 3rd House Ares.
    * Chiron: SR 2013 in 12th House Pisces, natal 3rd House Ares.
    * Venus: SR 2013 in 12th House Pisces, natal 1st House Aquarius cusp 2nd House.
    * Sun: SR 2013 in 12th House Pisces, natal 2nd House Pisces.
    * Mars: SR 2013 in 12th House Pisces, natal 1st House Capricorn cusp AC 12th House.
    * Uranus: SR 2013 in 12th House Ares, natal 9th House Libra.
    * Eris: SR 2013 in 12th House Ares, natal 3rd House Ares.
    * Pallas Athena: SR 2013 in 12th House Ares, natal 2nd House Ares.

    Admittedly I’m not drawing attention to any transit aspects and progressions here; the goal is to highlight the potential for Inner Work based on which planets appear in the 12th House, together with their aspects, and which sign the 12th appears in too.

    Based on my research, observations of my own behaviour, and intuitions, I’ve been taking a Depth Astrology approach to this pattern of ‘archetypes’ in my SR 2013 chart. My conclusions? The Higher Self intends for me to ‘go deep inside’ and come to recognise, acknowledge, accept and work with these unconscious, archetypal patterns, consciously. Active Imagination and written dialogues (almost a journal!) has proved to be highly beneficial as I’m coming toward conscious awareness of what these archetypes/parts need from me.

    If anyone else has something like my own stellium, I’d love to know what their strategy is/has been for working with such energies. Time to get conscious :{D

    Cheers,

    Rich.

  39. alexia Says:

    Hi Lynn,

    Thank you for the information on stelliums. I have 4 bodies in my 12th H (asc, mercury, mars and chiron) and felt your interpretation of 12th house stelliums struck a chord in me.

    For the longest time, I realized that I do retreat when more assertive/louder ppl are in the picture, sometimes to my own detriment. I have tried to speak up more in recent years, but it still has been a struggle.

    I also feel as if I give much more of myself “behind the scenes”, but then feel a bit cheated when it is not recognized or acknowledged. I do not require constant recognition/praise, but for my efforts to be noted would be greatly appreciated.

    What would be your advice for people with 12th house issues to reconcile these issues?

    Thank you in advance!

    -Alexia

  40. Lynn Koiner Says:

    ALEXIA (8-2013): I stand by what I wrote in the article….

    These people may have come from a past life monastery experience.
    In this life, they need to get outside of themselves and involve themselves with service to others or they can become quite neurotic!
    In coming from a past life situation of seclusion which formed a life pattern of isolation, they must break this pattern now!

    There is a need to get outside of one’s self and work with others. It is easy, however, to escape within rather than go out into the world.

  41. Essie Says:

    I’ve stellium in 3rd House (Venus,Mars,Moon Aries + Mercury Taurus)
    I am so exhausted sometimes because of having too many interest in too many fields.
    Lately,i have decided to go back school(I am 35yrs old!)and i am going to study “Philosophy”.
    After reading your article, i see that i made a good choice about the field.

    Thank you for the advice !

  42. Josefina Says:

    Hello, I am very interested in stellium in my composite chart with my 4 year boyfriend we have 4 plantes in our 10th house, its a dificult relationship and im interested in understanding the opposite what would be 4th house, what does this exactly mean? We need to work from home thats understood but how to balance it with the 4th house? If you could explain more on this I would be very thankful.

  43. Lynn Koiner Says:

    ESSIE (8-2013): Yes, going to the 9th could be philosophical but could you earn a living with a philosophy major?
    Teaching is more favored.

    JOSEFINA: Stelliums in a Composite chart are never used in the same way as the natal. Stelliums will show where the focus will be in a Composite. You would need to support each other professionally. If you cannot, then it is not a viable relationship.

  44. Jonathan Says:

    Hi,
    I realized recently that I have many of my planets in cadent houses. 4 in H9, 1 in H6, 1 in H3, and north node (I know, not a planet) in H12. I DEFINITELY relate to the whole endless thinking thing, and I end up suffering a lot as a result of being in my head all the time. Any other suggestions for how to deal with this? A question: Would my moon in the 6th help with this problem at all, seeing as 6th is practical and somewhat action oriented in terms of taking care of day-to-day responsibilities? Why is the 6th considered cadent when it seems so full of practical action? Thank you so much for sharing your insights!
    Jonathan

  45. Lynn Koiner Says:

    JONATHAN (8-2013): When you have many planets in Cadent Houses (does not matter – Cadent is always 3-6-9-12) you need to move or find activities in another time zone.

    Relocational astrology is very helpful here. Astro.com offers this for free. Planets in 3-6-9-12 all work in mental realms.

    I am leaving now for the NCGR conference in Philadelphia so I cannot answer too much right now.

  46. Luba Says:

    Hello!
    My stellium 5 planets in my natal 10H (Leo/Virgo)
    Leo Uranus 15’27”, Mercury 19’08”,Mars 29’59”(Cusp)Virgo, Pluto 2’43”, Venus 8’39”
    The opposite 4H Aquarius/Pisces(almost on the cusp) with Retrograde Chiron 26’32“Quincunx or Inconjunct my Sun in Cancer 26’58” Mars opposite Rx Chiron

    I would like to know what my Rx Chiron try tell me?
    Thank you

  47. Lynn Koiner Says:

    LUBA (9-2013): While I have an interpretation of Chiron that I use in Medical astrology and with transits, I do not have an interpretation for Chiron as an Apex/opposition planet. I would just read my interpretation for the 10th House Stellium and then find a career that is related to the 4th House – self-employed, working at home, real estate etc.

  48. Kimi Says:

    I have the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Mars in 12th house.
    Sun and Venus in Aries, the rest in Pisces.
    How does this fit with your ideas on Stellium?

    KIMI: My interpretation for the 12th Stellium holds for this. No changes. You need to escape from withdrawing into yourself and obsessing by finding creative and challenging work.
    Yes, you need alone time but not so much.

    A relocation from the time zone in which you were born would help, esp if it brought the planets in your 12th House into the 1st House.

    You can have a free Astro-Carto-Graphy chart calculated on www.astro.com

    The Sun-Mercury-Venus lines are stronger in France, Spain Portugal, England, and Ireland, if you stay in Europe.
    You need to move WEST of your birth place to pull those planets out of the 12th. You will always be a 12th House person but it helps to relocate.

  49. kaci Says:

    I have been looking at my son’s chart and have relative knowledge if astrology.I am concerned for his well being because he has a stellum in the 8th house which are all also in Aries. Uranus, Jupiter, mars, Venus, and mercury. his sun and moon are also both in tuarus, by the way. as you can imagine he is very impulsive and often literally runs head first into anything without fear or second thought. Every astrology reading I have gotten has warned me of his health but I know that many astrologers hold back negative information so as not to upset their customers. he was born on May 2nd, 2011 at 2:48pm est and the location is 94w44 , 32n30 or Longview, Texas. There are also three t-squares all concerning Pluto in Capricorn which is in the 5th house. I would just like to ask and see if you think that this natal chart seems strange to you since you have seen so many and to give me straight answers as to what it could be interpreted as. thanks so much!

  50. Lynn Koiner Says:

    KACI (10-2013): Many healers, scientists, profilers, researchers and financial advisors have Stelliums in the 8th House so I do not see a problem.

    The only health issue that occurs with planets in the 8th House is Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder so they need something outside of themselves to obsess upon.

    Did he inherit this from you? Moon in 8th

    Since I receive over 2000 hits every day, sorry, no personal readings given here.

  51. kaci Says:

    My moon is in the 5th house in aries but I do have two stellums in my chart. 4 in aries and 4 in my sun sign of Aquarius which is in the 7th house.

    I understand you don’t have time for full readings at the drop of a hat. I just wanted to ask to get an external view and interpretation. I like to see all angles of something from different perspectives so as to possibly find new insight that I hadn’t noticed or thought of yet.

  52. Alice Says:

    Hi Lynn,

    Would you have any more insight on having a Stellium in the 6th house? My chart has Neptune, Venus, Uranus and Saturn, all in Capricorn, in the 6th.

    Thank you!

  53. Donna Says:

    Hello Lynn,
    I have a stellium in the 11th house (Mars, Pluto, Sun, Mercury and Uranus in 12th house conjunct Mercury). 11th house in Virgo and 12th house in Libra. My life isn’t balanced and I desperately need to find the right path. I would appreciate if you could tell me some insights? Thank you

  54. Allen Says:

    How would you describe a person with a Scorpio Stellium(Venus, Saturn, Moon and Pluto) in the first house?

    Is having Saturn there decrease the intensity of his stellium?

    Thank you.

  55. Lynn Koiner Says:

    ALLEN (11-2013): Any stellium tends to obsess on the House wherein it is located. Scorpio would be particularly obsessive (Virgo is another obsessive sign – I know because I am a Virgo).

    Saturn in the 1st can be a first born or last born so there is a need to assume responsibilities in order to be connected with others (there was likely some “dread” going on when mom was pregnant with you).

  56. Gyan Says:

    I looked at my Solar Return chart for next year and found that I have a stellium of Mercury Sun Venus Pluto in my twelfth house, though with a wide-ish orb of around 7 degrees between each and Mercury falls within a degree of my Ascendant. I’m wondering how best to handle next year. I have a new partner and am wondering how she will fare with all that Venus energy in the 12th !

  57. Gyan Says:

    Perhaps I should have added that the planets fall in Capricorn, except mercury in Aquarius on my natal Chiron. Also Pluto falls within a degree of my Ascendant, but Mercury is within a degree of the Solar Return Ascendant.

  58. Lynn Koiner Says:

    GYAN (11-2013): My article does not apply to Solar Return charts. To be honest, the Solar Return charts never work for me so I do not use them. Priscilla Costello uses the Ascendant and its ruler as the primary influences. You might consult her for a reading. She is based in Canada but left today for Florida (she does have a computer).
    Sorry I cannot help more but I am not a SR enthusiast.

  59. camy Says:

    Hello! I have 4 planets in house 1..saturn, the moon, uranus and neptune..where saturn is awfully aspected, uranus and neptune retrograde. And also in house 4, I have the sun, venus and mercury..how would I be described? And I also have terrible nights when the moon is up..does it relate with moon in 1 house? Thank you!:)

  60. sagittarius Says:

    I have 5 planets in 12th house and I’m really confused sometimes… I have Venus, Mars, Moon, Uranus and Neptune all in 12th house, so can you tell me what does this mean? Thank you very much.
    ps: sorry for my bad English. Im not a native speaker.

  61. Wajeha Says:

    i have 4 planets in 7th house. venus, mars, neptune and uranus in 7th house in my birth chart. where venus conjuct mars. s what does tha mean?

  62. Lynn Koiner Says:

    CARNY (12-2013): Heightened sensitivity and sleep issues can be caused by the Stellium in your 1st House, especially Moon-Neptune-Uranus.
    The 12th House is associated with sleep issues and problems at night.

    SAGITTARIUS: I know that I wrote something better privately but I could not cut and paste the answer. When there is a stellium in the 12th, while the individual needs “alone time” — it is essential to get out of the house and become involved in working with others. Focus on something outside of yourself.

    The 12th internalizes to easily, sees itself as a victim and distorts reality when a good discuss would clear things up.
    I have 2 planets there and it is a problem for me but I work a lot.

    WAJEHA: Read what I say about the stellium in the 7th. Relationships take up the life too much so that you can feel that your life is not your own.
    If you are going to become obsessed with others, get paid for it … such as a career that advises, counsels or provides services to others.

  63. Lynn Koiner Says:

    RAUL: I wrote to you privately but you gave me a phoney email so I will not answer your question. My readers know that it drives me crazy when I take the time to answer privately and it bounces because the writer did not trust me.

  64. Kazina Says:
    I just wanted to say, speaking as a 7th house Stellium -- although it is not foreign for such a person to become enraptured in one singular relationship, I think a bigger theme is that the 7th house superstar becomes HYPER-ENGAGED IN ANY RELATIONSHIP or the existence of another person. I personally care about every person and I think deeply about almost everyone I come across. I think THE 7th House Stellium person exhibits more concern for the masses than most others. Your friend may be a special case or maybe you are just accustomed to your friends’ reciprocating "devotion." It may seem natural that such a person will shift their interest from one friend or friends, to their lover, but I think overall, unless they have totally selfish indications, such a person will still conscientiously keep every person in mind.
  65. Lynn Koiner Says:

    ATTENTION READERS: I edited Kazina’s comments, although I was not able to get the paragraph spacing in.

    What she says is VERY IMPORTANT. She used a phrase, HYPER-ENGAGED, and this is a perfect phrase for describing the Stellium — not just in the 7th House but it ALL of the Houses.

    No one has ever been devoted to me and my Swedish Student disappeared for everyone, not just me. I might consider too that he was also very young at the time…in his 20s.

    But, what Kazina says… that they are hyper-concerned is an important point about relationships.

  66. grace Says:

    Very accurate. I have Neptune,sun,venus in 12th house and Uranus,mars,jupiter,moon in 1st house. Thus,yeah,i’m pretty self-absorbed,narcissistic,LOL. Also,i do not have any opposition aspect and i have 8 planets,including my AC in Aquarius and no planet but chiron in water sign.

  67. AS Says:

    I was wondering whether or not all the dwarf planets and/or asteroids “count”? I have Saturn, Uranus and Neptune in the 1st house, but I also have Ceres, which is sometimes classified as a dwarf planet (and thereby just as important as Pluto), in the 1st house. Actually my North Node and Lillth are also to be found in the 1st house, but that is probably irrelevant.
    Incidentally I have both Sun, Mercury, Venus and Chiron in the 7th house, so my question sort of correlates to that as well.

  68. Lynn Koiner Says:

    ASTEROIDS IN STELLIUMS & OPPOSITIONAL STELLIUMS:

    You have asked a good question. While I use some asteroids, I do not always count them and I definitely do not count ALL of them.

    In the 1st, Ceres would be prominent and I would count it, esp. considering how strong those other Capricorn planets are.
    But, I confess, I do alter the rules, going with intuition many times.

    The Nodes and the Black Moon Lilith are not actual objects so I never use them like planets. Yes, there is a rock called Lilith but I never use it either

    When you have 2 stelliums warring against each other, I consider it to be a SeeSaw chart pattern — always aware of opposing points of view and thereby becoming a mediator and coordinator in conflict situations.

    I think I have information on aspects on my website. I have information on the Patterns but I have not typed these into the computer.

  69. elina Says:

    I have both-2nd and 3rd house stellium. The article suggests to move into opposite houses. BUT ,I also have north node(capricorn) in 2nd house. North nodes should implicate our life mission and growing out of the south node. So what should I do-me confused. AND with 3rd house ,I have my point of fortune there. So dealings with 3rd house should bring me fortune? CONFUSED. What to do-try to balance those houses with 8th and 9th OR drown into 2-3th houses? (with 8th house cancer south node-I am being dependent not independent 2th capricorn ,right?). Hopefully I will get some good advice!

    NOTE FROM LYNN: I have not been receiving post notifications since February 1. Do not complicate the situation by considering the Nodes. I have a totally different spin on the Nodes...since I am old, I have seen how they work empirically, not theoretically. One poster said that she becomes Hyper-Engaged in the Stellium Houses and this is so true. Stelliums in the 3rd can live in their heads. I often recommend a relocation from the birth place to shift the energy out of the 3rd. Teaching, speaking to groups and education can help the 3rd House. Consultating financial advisors can help alleviate the financial obsessions.
  70. Sabrina Says:

    Hello :)

    Could you please tell me about myself?

    BORN:
    September 1st, 1987
    6:10PM
    Montreal, Quebec
    CANADA

    Thank you so much! :)

    NOTE FROM LYNN: You have posted this on my Stellium article. I only answer questions about the articles. If you would like a personal reading, please contact me after March 14 as I will be in Serbia. I use Skype and PayPal.
  71. ka Says:

    Hi Lynn,

    Thank you for excellent information as always. I am in process of relocating to close distance on long-distance relationship and to marry. This is second marriage for both of us. It’s been suggested that the 2nd house indicates remarriage (and/or relationships outside the marriage indicated in 7th).

    Mars is the only camper in my 2nd house, with Saturn in my 11th. My guy has a stellium with Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Jupiter in the 2nd house. Can you comment on how or if a planetary pileup in 2nd house indicates multiple marriages, infidelities, extramarital affairs?

    Thanks in advance for any insight; I truly need it.

  72. Lynn Koiner Says:

    KA (3 2014): Sorry but the 2nd House does not rule any marriage partner. It is the 9th that rules the 2nd marriage. I have used this technique and it works.

    It is just like the 5th House ruling your first born child and the 7th the 2nd born and the 9th House your 3rd born. And, this definitely works.

  73. Sam Says:

    Hi Lynn!

    Wow, this is a very enlightening article! And how funny a lot of people with Stelliums in the XII abound (read all the comments and that House was one of the most asked).

    As a XII-House Stellium person (DOB: jul/27/76, TOB: 7:27, POB: Mexicali, Mexico) all I can do is support your article in full, 100%.

    As an astrologer myself, hadn’t quite grasped the issue around the Stellium, you had the last piece of my puzzle, thank you so much! Now it all seems clear, complete and under a new, brighter light.

    Bouts of depression, neurosis, paranoia, eating my heart out, you name it! I’ve had it all of them, and even when the positioning of the Stellium helped a big bit (in Leo), the comfort zone is hard to leave, so staying home (like a hermit) was the best choice; and after crying, weeping and tearing in sorrow for minutes, sometimes for hours, and when the low vibration (feelings of despair and suicide) finished up, I was then able to pick myself up and go on. It was cathartic but so straining, so tiring, so heavy. And I was feeling fed up with the emotional roller-coaster.

    I had already realized that getting out and be more social made me feel better (usually gatherings with family and friends), I haven’t tried service (we XII House people are supposed to be the hospital/institution/church workers) as a means of dealing with it, will give it a try for sure; but I’ve never realized about the problems to sleep (consider myself a “night person”, all my connections and work is better done after midnight) were related to it.

    The relocation is a new one, I had been done an Astro-Cartography chart. Relocating to take out the Stellium out of the XII is a brand new idea for me, so I’ll give it some study!

    Thanks!!

  74. Lynn Koiner Says:

    STELLIUM IN 12th HOUSE & REGRESSING YOUR CHART INTO YOUR PARENTSPAST:

    Thank you, Sam, for the candid post. I give a workshop on 12th House planets and there seems to be a theme of SERVICE as a way of getting out of the 12th. No one mentioned hospitals and institutions, which would be gloomy and isolating — you need to GET OUT of the 12th and be with people.

    That is a BIG stellium with no oppositions to pull you out so you must do this yourself. I give a lecture on Regressing Your Chart into Your Parents’ Past.

    This repressive indictment started during a period from 1959 through 1969, approximately. There was another around 1947 that denotes an ancestral pattern of hiding your Leo personality. It is connected with some fear of failure – better to hide or avoid than to fail. Everyone fails a few times in life but you need to keep trying.

    The 12th House rules us Guinea Pigs in life — that what you experience you share with others, either through writing or teaching. I am a 12th House person and I always need my private time and I cannot be ON 24/7. But, I need to shine so I serve in positions with many astrological and historical organizations. When alone too long, I start feeling sorry for myself and seeing myself as a victim.

    All of my health issues have served to help me with medical astrology. I know more about many health issues than many doctors.

    If you put Eris (the new planet discovered in 2005 — see article on my website and do not read the negative stuff by other astrologers) at 14 Aries in your 8th House, you have a Grand Fire Trine with Leo and Neptune in Sagittarius. This gives a capacity to inspire and motivate others through your own enthusiasm for what you are saying — because it is based upon your personal experience.

    Hygeia at 5 Leo gives some healing ability, especially at a psychic and psychological level. When Saturn moves into Sagittarius, this may help you develop these skills.

    As for Astro-Carto-Graphy, I see that this Stellium either on the Asc or MC falls in the oceans.
    Jupiter is on the MC in Mexico and Albuquerque NM – not sure you want to go to Billings Montana.
    Some of the stellium falls on the eastern part of Brazil and Eastern Australia.
    No, you do not have to move to these areas but people from these areas can be helpful. Actually, just moving 1 time zone can change the House positions. I believe www.astro.com gives relocation charts so just put in cities that interest you.

    ATTENTION: It is rare that I give a lengthy interpretation. Anyone who writes for one is turned down but this is a situation that will be of interest to many readers.

  75. Q Says:

    Hello! I love your work.
    What does it mean if I have a stellium in my first house which is sagittarius? (Sun, moon, mercury, venus, mars, jupiter & pluto)

    Thank you :-)

  76. Lynn Koiner Says:

    Q 5-2014: Since I already wrote an explanation, I am not going to repeat myself. Why don’t you tell us how the stellium in the 1st House works for you.

  77. roni Says:

    id like to know wat it means having 4 planets in the same sign and same house…sun mercury venus AND JUPITOR IN LEO WHILE sun jupiter venus and true node in the 10th house

  78. Lynn Koiner Says:

    RONI (6-2014): Your answer was right in the article above…

    4th HOUSE: There is a need to take the energies out of the “personal” home and put them into a professional activity that deals with 4th House issues.

    The home life is often tumultuous, especially finding upset with every little transit.

    They do well in such 4th House areas as real estate, building and construction, archeology and anthropology, history, historical preservation or activities connected with the past. NOTE: In Leo, I would also add home decorating and design or even landscape design; party planning and catering.

    It favors working with weather conditions and environmental issues.

    One woman helps adoptees find their biological parents. Another was a mortician! Their obsession is dwelling too much on their own past when they keep their energies in the personal sector.

    The past is always a frame of reference for almost any 4th House placement, stellium or not.
    The individual gets emotionally stuck in the past.
    Getting out and working the land is very helpful.

    I have observed that people who work with environmental issues obsess and lose perspective about what is really workable.

    Donna Cunningham has just published an e-book on Stelliums. Her perspective is different from my own but it is good.

  79. Anna Says:

    I have got Jupiter, Mars, Moon and Saturn in Virgo and in the 2nd house. What would that mean? I’m now recovering from a huge crisis in many areas in my life at once so can this stellum placement somehow shed a bit of light on that?

  80. Lovelife Says:

    This is strange, as I feel I resonate with both the 9th and 8th house and,when using the whole house system, my planets all sit in the 9th house.

    I have Sun,Jupiter,Uranus and Neptune all in Sagittarius and the 8th house(Placidus). I feel PLENTY and find it very difficult to be in crowds or chaos as I tend to “absorb” energies easily.

    I feel it is also worthy to note that this house has def contributed with my struggle with personal issues of male sexuality,mortality and question the existence of God.

    8th house is a lonely house, but its a blessing nevertheless.

  81. Lynn Koiner Says:

    LOVELIFE (7-2014): My interpretations are based upon my observations using the Placidius House System.

    The 9th House is very different from the 8th – living in a world of philosophies as an armchair philosopher – which is typically Sagittarian. It can be a very discontented House.

    Much of what you describe is 8th House – like a spider feeling the tug on its web, they are hyper-sensitive to the energies and vibrations around them.

    Another clue to the 8th would be Obsessive-Compulsive tendencies.
    I confess that I am attracted to OCD people because of their intensity and creativity and even their healing abilities.

 

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