THE KITE PATTERN

THE KITE PATTERN
by Lynn Koiner
Written in the late 1990s

The Kite pattern occurs — and it does more frequently than an unopposed grand trine — when a planet opposes one of the planets in the Grand Trine. Sometimes, there can be more than one opposition.

FIRST STAGE OF RESEARCH

When I examined my old notes on the Kite, I had written that the Kite often affected money issues. My earliest research involved Pluto oppositions to Aquarius in a Grand Air Trine, common in the 1940s (the month of February with Aquarius) with Uranus in Gemini and Neptune in Libra. I observed that these people often had a distortion or wrong attitude where money was concerned that kept them from using the Kite. This problem attitude was POWER and CONTROL, symbolized by Pluto (and Transpluto). With this specific Pattern, the control attitude was that they were not going to compromise their vision. They were going to do it themselves (financially) so that they would not have to take orders from anyone. “I am going to do it my way even if this means that I have to come up with the money myself.” This limitation based upon an inability to compromise keeps them from ever using the Grand Trine. Asking for help and working cooperatively with others is the big hang up with a kite.

SECOND STAGE OF RESEARCH

In the 1980s, when I got my first computer, it became more practical to calculate the horoscopes of major and minor disasters. A collection built up quickly and I noticed that the charts of catastrophes, government changes, plane crashes, disasters in nature all had a kite pattern. Sometimes, I would have to make a stretch and include the Ascendant as part of the Grand Trine and Transpluto. There was one case of Chiron but most had a true Kite Pattern. It got so that, whenever a client would come in with a Kite pattern, I would look in a book of disasters and find what happened somewhere in the world. One girl was born at the time of a great flood in Wales.
As I looked back over the disasters, they were often disasters that resulted in changes in policies, structures, procedures – that is, significant preventative measures were taken. Both NASA disasters had Kite Patterns.

THIRD STAGE OF RESEARCH: What Kite energy feels like. . .

From “The Amethyst:”

On July 17 of this year, I was able to experience and feel the energies involved in the Kite configuration. A friend and I were traveling to Chicago to attend the AFA convention. There was a strange, negative and disruptive electrical sensation in the air. We learned from airport staff that airports around the country were being affected. First, we found ourselves stuck in a Kentucky airport for 5 hours. To complicate matters, this airport experienced a disruption in their air conditioning system. Soon, everyone became irritable and cranky from the heat and patience was running short. Almost 12 hours after our journey had begun, we finally arrived at our hotel. When we turned on the news, we heard about the plane crash in New York. We no longer complained. The energies were so bad that day that we felt lucky to have arrived in Chicago at all! That strange, disruptive electrical energy that we had felt all day was the energy of the Kite Grand Fire Trine opposing Uranus in Aquarius! The massive power of the Fire Trine had been blocked energetically by Uranus and it erupted in the plane disaster. People who were born at the time of a Kite pattern feel this energy all the time – it was bad enough for just one day!

Recently, I recognized that I was feeling out of control with my eating. At first, I presumed that it was a hormonal thing as it lasted persistently for about 2 weeks. This is unusual for me, as I do not normally have such hormonal reactions. I felt a nervous, compulsive energy and, when I was not eating, my hands would shake with a neuro-muscular irregularity. I knew exactly when these compulsions began, the evening of July 26, and I checked the aspects for that night. A friend reminded me, “Isn’t that the night of the bombing in Atlanta?!” Indeed, it was! At 1:20 AM on July 27, a bomb exploded at Atlanta’s Centennial Park. Lo and behold, there was the Grand Fire Trine with a Kite pattern formed by Uranus in Aquarius opposing the Sun in Leo! For the first time, I was aware of exactly what Kite energy feels like. In this case, the electrical energy of Uranus opposing a planet in the Grand Trine was like a rod thrust into the spokes of a spinning wheel! The motion of the Grand Trine abruptly halted and exploded with the bomb.

ECLIPSES, DISASTER CYCLES AND THE KITE PATTERN

In the Summer 1995 issue of AMETHYST, I wrote an article on the significant astrological factors surrounding the Oklahoma City bombing. Since the Challenger explosion, I have become aware of the significance of the Kite Pattern in certain disasters, especially disasters that resulted in important changes in regulations, defenses and fortifications. Most disasters will be triggered initially by a preceding eclipse. Four days prior to the Oklahoma bombing, there was a Transformational/Crisis Lunar Eclipse at 25 degrees Libra. When placed in the Bombing chart, it formed a perfect Kite. This Kite was based upon a Grand Fire Trine, a particularly ominous Trine.

I wrote in 1996-97 that: “This year, there has been an inordinately high incidence of flight disasters. This year, with Saturn and Pluto transiting Fire signs (Aries and Sagittarius) all year, there has been an inordinately high number of transiting Fire Trine Kite patterns. The eclipses this year are all in Aires/Libra! There is a specific reason that these Kites have affected air travel. In 1986, I wrote an article on the Challenger disaster and connected air disasters to the transits to the Birth Chart of the Airplane, first described by Rick Klimczak, as being the Kitty Hawk Flight chart. The square between Venus at 8 degrees Scorpio in the 8th House and Mars-Saturn at 4-6 Aquarius in the 12th House have continually demonstrated themselves as highly sensitive points. Now that Uranus is at 4 degrees Aquarius, we can look forward to continued problems with flight.”

“Until recently, I had no insight into the Kite pattern in disasters and the Kite pattern in personal horoscopes. About 12 years ago, I noticed in the horoscopes of some students who had strong Grand Trine configurations that they were not lucky in terms of their Grand Trine. They seemed unable to access the talent and potential indicated by their Trine pattern; however, these people all had oppositions to at least one of the planets in their Grand Trine. One woman with a Grand Air Trine with Pluto in Leo opposing and an Aquarian planet in the 8th House had a great humanitarian vision which she was never able to actualize. In terms of financing, she insisted that she had to do it herself; she wanted no outside assistance because she did not want anyone telling her what to do. If she sought outside financing, she perceived that she would be unable to do it her way. She was totally unwilling to compromise on her vision, feeling that she would lose control to outside interference. Now, 12 years later, her vision has still not manifested. Her way is not necessarily the best way but she is projecting through Pluto that all authority figures will control and usurp power. This is probably true regarding how she exercises authority; however, she does not see herself in this manner but it is how she sees authority figures in general.”

“I soon noticed that the opposition in the Kite totally blocked the energy of the Grand Trine. Considering the massive energy in the Grand Trine, this must be experienced as an immense degree of frustration and this frustration, if not resolved through compromise, could eventually lead to health problems, as demonstrated by the element of the Trine.”

“The opposition or 180-degree aspect operates quite differently from the square or 90 degree aspect. The opposition represents qualities – hostilities, attitudes and resentments – that WE project onto others, forcing them to respond with a similar reaction. For example, when a female has her Moon square Mars, it describes a mother who was jealous of her daughter because she was very frustrated and unfulfilled in her own life. Perceiving the daughter {with the Moon-Mars aspect) as being closer to the father than herself, the daughter is seen as a competitor and a threat. She will be perceived even more of a threat when the daughter starts to date, to have fun with her friends, and to do things that the mother feels that she cannot do herself. However, when the daughter has an opposition between the Moon and Mars, the daughter becomes jealous and resentful of the mother because, being young, she cannot do the things that her mother is able to do. The daughter will project this resentment onto the mother, causing the mother to react with anger and hostility. The daughter, indeed, sees the mother as angry and hostile but she is not able to objectively examine her own behavior that led to and instigated the mother’s angry responses.”

“The opposition requires a lot of self-examination. In 1984, a student whose chart was dominated by oppositions candidly confided that it always appeared that everyone opposed what she wanted or wanted to do but, if the truth be known, she anticipated their reaction and then purposely chose the opposite. With maturity, she learned to examine her reactions and make healthy compromises in her life and in her relationships. She is now a successful mediation attorney.”

“Obviously, the opposition bestows a high degree of independence and willfulness that the square does not. It is this quality, fed by the power and confidence of the Grand Trine, that makes it extremely difficult, although not impossible, for the individual to make the necessary compromises to activate the Grand Trine.”

I asked: “Are there more of these dangerous patterns lining up? As I wrote in the 1995 article, there is an ominous Kite manifesting at the time of the Lunar Eclipse on September 27, 1996. At this time, Mars in Leo will activate the Grand Fire Trine and it will be opposed by Uranus. Upon closer examination, the explosive events may occur a bit earlier when Mars is more closely aligned with Uranus. The tighter orb is found near the Transformational New Moon on September 12. Here, Mars is conjunct Venus and within one degree of an opposition to Uranus in Aquarius and it forms a Grand Trine with Saturn in Aries and Pluto in Sagittarius. I have included the Astro*Carto*Graphy map for this ominous lunation. The darkened lines show where this eclipse and Mars-Venus/Uranus will fall on the axis. Take note that the ASCIDESC axis for Mars/Uranus runs through the western U. S. with a Pluto crossing at the Canadian border and through the Middle East, specifically through Iraq, Syria and Saudi Arabia.”

“What happened? During the first half of September 1996, the US began attacking Iraq’s southern air defenses and, on September 13, Iraq agreed to stop shooting at our airplanes. At the time of the Eclipse, violence occurred in Jerusalem over the opening of the tourist tunnel, the Taliban Muslim fundamentalists captured the capital of Afghanistan and there was “ethnic violence in Zair.”

BLACK DRAGON

In Europe, kite patterns are referred to as Dragons because of the great power and energy that they contain. Europeans are more concerned with patterns in a chart.

There is another kite based upon all “inharmonious” aspects – the Black Kite or Black Dragon. It contains an opposition that is crossed by a square at one end. This pattern then creates a series of semi-squares (45º) and sesquiquadrates (135º) to create the pattern of a kite. On August 21, 1914, a solar eclipse occurred at the time of a Black Kite. This summer was the beginning of World War I – a war that lasted through 1945.

In a book by Czech astrologer, Pavel Turnovsky, he states that “this pattern brings to perfection the characteristics of the Grand Trine in either a positive or negative sense. It is productive, contemplative and sophisticated and it is through the great energy passing through the opposition that the desired goals can be reached.” Like the White Dragon, there are powerful energies generated here but they can only be harnessed in a positive sense when the energy of the opposition is positively regulated.

I feel, at this point in my research, that MINOR ISSUES CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONFLICTS. Even in the Solar Eclipse of 1914 chart, there were minor issues (assassination of Archduke Ferdinand) that contributed to the War. If you address only the opposition and the square, you will miss the REAL issues involved in the conflict. In on horoscope, the hard aspects showed problems with closeness. The minor afflictions, especially the Sun 45 Venus, indicated that she really felt very unattractive. A lot of energy was put into wearing expensive clothing and beautifying her self . The undercurrent was that she felt ugly and that, if someone got too close, they would realize this and see through the image she projected.

THE MINOR ASPECTS

45 degree: This aspect represents a subtle undercurrent of which we have little awareness. It is always there creating fears, insecurities and nagging edges that drain off energies. It is like a faulty foundation and, until you deal with the issues of the planets involved, you cannot build on it. You cannot resolve the major issues of the square and opposition if you do not deal with the minor issues first. This is an aspect that requires patience because you have to deal with the underpinnings first. It is too easy to deal with a quick fix of the opposition (in one chart, just be alone or end a difficult relationship). Get back to basics – the basic problem.

135 degree: This is an aspect of excessiveness – excessive criticism and analysis to the point of missing the point (approaching the opposition point) or excessive dissemination and intrusiveness that irritates others. There is action with the sesquiquadrate but only after much indecision. You know what you have got to do but you do not want to do it. Like the 150 degree aspect, there is often some misinterpretation of the issues of the planets. RESOLVE THE MISINTERPRETATION.

PLANETS IN OPPOSITION OF GRAND TRINE KITE

In the personal horoscope, the key to understanding the dilemma of the Kite is in understanding the influence of the opposition. Years ago, a student with a Seesaw pattern confessed that, while it always seemed that others opposed what she wanted to do, she secretly knew that she was the one who always anticipated what others wanted and then she would want the opposite. She was the one who was projecting the conflict onto others but rarely will the individual have such insight about themselves.

The OPPOSITION represents qualities – hostilities, attitudes and resentments – that WE project onto others, originally our family and our environment, forcing them to respond with a similar reaction. It has been my interpretation that, when a female has the Moon square or conjunct Mars, it describes a mother who was jealous of her daughter because she was very frustrated and unfulfilled in her own life. As the daughter begins to socialize and achieve on her own, mother appears angry and resentful of the freedom that the daughter appears to have; perceiving the daughter (with the Moon-Mars aspect) as being closer to the father than her self, the daughter is seen as a competitor and a threat.

I have observed that this situation is very different with the opposition. The daughter (with Moon-Mars) will project this resentment onto the mother, causing the mother to react with anger and hostility. The daughter sees the mother as angry and hostile and she may even perceive the mother as being jealous and competitive with her. The Moon-Mars opposition daughter is actually jealous and resentful of the freedom or activities of the mother. Later in life, this daughter will project her hostility onto others, especially women.

Obviously, the opposition requires much self-examination to utilize effectively, to resolve the conflict and harness its power. The OPPOSITION bestows a high degree of independence and willfulness that the square does not. It is this quality, fed by the power of confidence of the Grand Trine, that makes it extremely difficult, although not impossible, for the individual to make the necessary compromises to activate the Grand Trine.

With the opposition, YOU have the power and the control to change things. It cannot come from others.

SUNMOON OPPOSITION: This is an aspect of great discontent. It represents a basic inner conflict that is projected onto life choices. They grew up with parents that were totally different or, at least, the child projected this and accepted this as his/her reality. There is always a pull in 2 different directions, a head versus heart conflict. Cancer/Capricorn. Choices become dissatisfying until some type of compromise is found that satisfies both.

The block to the Grand Trine – they are not content with the choices that they make, switching from one to another. They may project that it is the fault of the other person or the situation but the fault lies in the lack of integration of the polarities in their choices.

MARS: Remember, the opposition is what you project onto others. When Mars is involved in the opposition, the individual projects much anger, resentment and competitiveness onto others. If Mars is retrograde, in the case of an opposition to the Sun, the individual does not show this anger, sends out mixed messages and explodes all of a sudden.
The individual may blame others, react defiantly and end relationships and situations before any fruition or results can be achieved. In Mutable signs, the individual gets angry and leaves; Cardinals continually create crises through causing them, getting involved in them or through their indecisiveness and fear of the unknown/outcome; Fixed just don’t compromise out of stubbornness as a control issue.

JUPITER: This planet projects high expectations onto others and situations. Jupiter has a poor sense of moderation and proportion. The individual can have unrealistic expectations that are projected and then give up when the going gets rough. The individual must learn a sense of moderation, not to give too much of themselves away in order to make people like them. Jupiter needs lots of freedom that they do not want to compromise; Jupiter role plays, does things in order to establish a relationship, get what they want, then feel taken for granted and quit. This is a highly creative planet but there is no role model in the family for doing something with the creativity. Mars-Jupiter overreacts to anything unjust or unfair; Jupiter-Saturn; Jupiter-Pluto

SATURN: This planet needs to learn how to handle responsibilities properly – not to assume responsibilities that would limit you; not to assume responsibilities that you do not really want but have been conditioned to accept through parental indoctrination. Saturn can generate fear and guilt, fear of commitment; it can distort the sense of responsibility as with Saturn-Pluto aspects. Saturn projects an ATTITUDE that others will limit, restrict or entrap you so you are not going to compromise. Sun-Saturn squares are much more insecure than the opposition; oppositions cop an attitude. The individual will not be a team player; they project this image and, therefore, they do not go very far – Insubordination!

URANUS: What Uranus projects is that others will change on you, they will suddenly leave or abandon you so you rebel and do not trust. Uranus bestows a highly charged electromagnetic field. When people get too close to them, they go off and push others away. NOTE: look at the degree of separation in the opposition and you will find the event that triggers the problem .

NEPTUNE: This planet is one of denial. They project their own reality upon others and circumstances. Then, they do not understand what went wrong. With the Sun, they can see themselves in an unrealistic way. Stan saw himself in a heroic role. Neptune in Scorpio is the worst. With Mars, there may be a lot of talk about doing something but there is too much indecisiveness and not enough resolve.

PLUTO: This is a control issue. They project that others will try to take control and their power. No one can really take your power away – you probably did not have it in the first place. This person is often very much out of control, grew up in an out-of-control environment and they project that others are controlling and manipulative, too inclined to see the darker side of issues and will not compromise.

Several footnotes did not copy into this article —

+ The Kite Pattern is created when a planet in a Grand Trine formation is opposed by another planet. This “opposition” planet then forms sextiles to the other planets in the Trine. When lines are drawn between the planets, it looks like a kite pattern.

+ “Transformational Lunation” is a term coined by Czech astrologer, Pavel Turnovsky. According to him, there are lunations (New and Full Moons or Eclipses) that are connected with major planetary patterns to the outer , transpersonal planets – Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. The transformational energies of these planets can be used for personal, social, cultural and planetary change. Where the lunation or the outer planets fall on the Axis (AsclDesc or MCIIC), as seen on the Astro*Carto*Graphy maps, both the area and the individuals in that area will experience powerful transformations. For example, when a powerful Transformational Lunation fell on the Ascendant in Moscow, it brought about a great challenge to Yeltsin’s power, forcing him to make serious compromises to the military. It is essential that we use these energies now to bring about personal and global change. After February 1997, there will be no Transformational Lunations until 2012!

+ A “Crisis Lunation” occurs when the New or Full Moon is physically very close to the earth. This closeness is called the Moon’s perigee. This closeness of the lunation will amplify our emotional reactions, bringing matters to a crisis point.

+ With the Grand Trine, at least 3 planets are connected by 3 trines to form a triangle In one of the four elements – Fire, Earth, Air or Water. This pattern denotes great natural talent, confidence in that talent, and it is associated with luck or lucky breaks. For example, OJ Simpson has a pure Grand Water Trine (no oppositions to the trining planets). Indeed, this man has led a charmed life!

50 Responses

  1. Hi Lynn – I’ve always been curious about the kite pattern in my natal horoscope, but I’m fascinated by the theses you make in your article. I have a natal Kite / Grand Air Trine opposing Pluto in Leo (1949), with my ascendant on one of the trine vertices, and Venus in Aquarius conjunct my Mid-Heaven (exact). I’ve found very few discussions in the classical texts that resonated with me, and none of the readings I’ve had done even mention it. If you are a practicing astrologer, would you be willing to do a virtual reading / consultation for me?
    Sincerely,
    Joe Leach, Media PA

    1. First, a Kite is made up of a Grand Trine – in this case, a Grand Air Trine that supports communications, relating to others through the world of ideas and information with objectivity. The Kite is a difficult pattern because there is a core opposition that blocks the talent of the Grand Trine — until that opposition is resolved. First, Venus in Aquarius opposes Pluto. A lot of the issues with the opposition stem from the “relationship” with the mother, a relationship based upon control, manipulation and “game-playing.” The Moon is also Out of Bounds. Out of Bounds means the planet (Uranus and Pluto are also OOB) that the planet is much higher in the sky (or lower if living in the northern Hemisphere) than the Sun ever reaches. In this case, the Moon is 27 degrees 27 minutes in latitude. It is not traditional and always outside the box in relating (Oprah Winfrey has an OOB Moon). An OOB Moon often has a disconnect with the mother emotionally and this was very true with Oprah. Living outside the box portends great talent. I feel no fondness for NORMAL or ORDINARY.
      The bottom line is that control issues, connected with the relationship with the Mother, is a block to effective communication and objectivity.

      Now there is another opposition — I have researched an Object that has been termed TRANSPLUTO (I have articles on this website). Mercury opposes Transpluto at 5 Leo R. This also makes the individual highly intelligent but overly sensitive to criticism (of one’s ideas). Yes, most of us are sensitive to criticism. It is one of the most common pathogenic parental attitudes towards a child. With the opposition, alienations and a breakdown in communication can occur when any criticism is sensed — but also the individual can be critical when feeling vulnerable. It also interferes with objectivity.

      I hate sounding critical. This is a very common issue with the Air sign Kite. I have a friend with the exact type of Kite. She feels that she never achieved her Air Sign potential because Pluto wants to be in control and everything has to be done her way or not at all. With Transpluto, when criticized, she goes in the opposite direction. I have never experienced these “problems” in my friendship with her but this is what she has told me.

      With Transpluto, finding an interest or activity that gives you great joy — this is the solution. When feeling joy, you do not care about what others think. You need to learn lessons in Wholeness and Integration — not being perfect but being complete as you are.

  2. Hi! I hope today has gone well for you. I have always had a nagging sensation about my chart, and yesterday, I was told by a friend that she thinks I really need to focus on the little details before moving forward with my current plans. Well, just for fun, I looked at my chart with a different software than I usually use and decided to add the asteroids and their aspects. I never realized Vesta was conjunct my Midheaven and completing a kite formation in opposition to Venus, and Venus being sextile Mars and Jupiter (which are trine one another). Does it not count because it’s Vesta?

    1. First, I do not use the MC in the formation of a Grand Trine — my choice but others may differ. It is not personal life the ASC. I do use the ASC with a Grand Trine. I do not use the asteroids but I will consider Chiron, especially since I work with it a lot. I do not use Vesta either.
      Frankly, you do not want a Kite — it is blocked energy. BUT, you can think about Vesta as a block in your career choice. As astrologers, we are always researching and observing and opinions change.

    2. Dear Nina:
      Although Vesta is one of the 6 major Fixed Stars, most Astrologers will not take it into account.
      Normally, in most cases, only the 10 planets, the Lunar nodes (NN +SN) and Chiron (and in more cases, Part of Fortune) will be taken into account for a KITE formation. The OPPOSITION b/w the two planets really holds the key here as the other planetary bodies are in harmonious aspect anyways (trines & sextiles). The “opposition” b/w those 2 celestial bodies involved show how an individual can PROSPER if they know how to CONTROL its energy, or simply FAIL, if the native gets lost in their own path to self-destruction, lack of control, fear, lack of balance or compromise (Opposition Aspects = require a constant equilibrium/balance/compromise b/w those 2 celestial bodies). It doesn’t have to be as complicated as it sounds. Check their planetary house Rulerships, that should give you further hints. But, all in all, I stay away from Vesta/Juno/Ceres/Pallas/Vertex/
      I hope this shed some light into your question.
      Astro Doyna

  3. Hi, I was searching for this pattern and just found your post.
    I have a kite pattern in my natal chart, it is a Grand water Trine, with Uranus conjunct Neptune in capricorn in the XII house opposing Mercury in cáncer in the VI. The Grand Trine is formed by Mercury in cáncer 6h, Pluto un scorpio 10h and Moon in Pisces in The 2h.
    I understand the watery influence of this trine, yet I don’t fully understand the meaning of the opposition, as it involves transpersonal planets like Neptune and uranus, and the last house of the Zodiac where everything gets blurry and subconscious.
    Also, uranus happens to be the regent of my chart and ascendant.
    Would you like to give a interpretation to it? Thanks in advance for the great article and sorry about the crappy english

    1. Grand Water Trines, especially when the Moon and Mercury are involved, portends writing/communicating skills. The opposition denotes a block in one’s communication skills. Uranus in the 12th rules the fear of being weird (yet, weird is good) and Neptune in the 12th is a fear of intuition and creativity — an ancestral pattern. There is also a fear of saying what you really thing, doubting your own decisions and giving into the opinions of others who seem more authoritative. I have a similar aspect and what helped me was developing confidence — in knowing astrology. I know so much that I have the confidence to respect another’s opinion when they disagree with me. When I was young, I would back down. Family did not always tell the truth when you were growing up and this has lead to the self-doubt — adults do not lie so I must be wrong. Get over it — THEY LIE!

    2. I think we have a handful of similarities! I have Neptune in the 12th in Capricorn and my Uranus is in Sagittarius and in the 12th as well. I also have Pluto in the 10th.

  4. After hours of browsing the internet, thank you Lynn for posting such an informative piece. I’ve been looking everywhere to find something to do with Kites to help me understand mine. I have a Kite pattern with my Moon and Mars in opposition and this article has me thinking my subconcious envy has been blocking me from my true potential. I do feel like I’ve been thrown the lower hand in life and tend to get jealous of others for having it easy. Thanks for helping me identify the root.

    1. Thank you for your testimonial. And, the source of the Moon-Mars aspect is difficult. I have a wide conjunction in Gemini (with Uranus). My mother was always angry and, after reading DRAMA OF THE GIFTED CHILD, I realized that my mother was actually envious of me, especially when I started to date. She was angry because she had issues with my dad (their Moon’s squared so they could not connect with each other’s emotional needs). As a result, I became competitive with my mom (getting even by winning baking contests etc). This led me to be competitive with girls that I went to school with and this left me without female friends. BUT, Astrology saved my life in many ways. I started to teach astrology in my home. The students were mostly woman, women who had similar problems to my own. I learned that women are not like my mom and I cultivated many female relationships. When the relationships with my mom was the most strained, I attracted on 2 occasions women who were just like my mother, older women who eventually began very jealous of me because of my knowledge and popularity in the astrological and metaphysical community. But I am older now so all of my friends are a bunch of old people (in their 70s) but no jealousy or competitiveness. So, we can outgrow the problem with Moon-Mars. Talking about it with close friends helps release that energy. But, you must do this in order to release the Grand Trine. But, it IS possible.

    1. Molly, I do not know anything about the Grand Sextile but I do know what it means to have a lot of sextiles in the chart. This indicates a karma lesson to force the person to ASK FOR ADVICE OR HELP and not try to do everything one’s self. Now there are a lot of oppositions — these are easier aspect to resolve. But, they require compromise. You can have one OR the other but not both at the same time. I knew someone with a 4th/10th opposition. She would not be able to have a career AND raise a family. I urged here to prove herself professionally and then take time out for a family. Once the children are independent, she could go back to work. If there are NO SQUARES, this means that the individual needs to demands and PSUH from others to get anything done. This is not a great answer but it is the best I can. My favorite book was Betty Lundstead’s ASTROLOGICAL INSIGHTS INTO PERSONALITY. I am big on analyzing individual aspects.

  5. So happy I found this – I have a fire grand trine – (saturn, neptune, moon)… I then have a kite pattern (jupiter in the 10th opposite neptune in the 4th)… I now see this as a tendency towards over ambition … and a kite with pluto in the 2nd opposite moon in the 9th (placidus) …

    1. It is very difficult for me to visualize when people tell me where their planets are. With a Grand Trine, the personal planet would act like an Apex (Focal Point). The Moon in Fire has emotional zeal and enthusiasm that inspires and motivates others. The oppositions block the Fire energy. Pluto has control issues (connected with mother who, herself, was very lonely as a child). With Jupiter-Neptune, illusions instead of reality can lead to loss and disappointment. The Grand Trine has great talent but you can get side-tracked by false expectations, false promises — you need to partner with more practical and logical types. Pluto wants to do it your way so you need to learn to cooperate. Once you learn these lessons, the great talents can manifest. Fire signs do not work behind a desk.

  6. Hi! Thank you so much for this article. I do relate to the experience of having this great vision that does not manifest, and in my case I was very aware it is related to my own short-comings, so I went to look at my chart. I believe I have a water sign kite. I have a Mars on the 5th house in Cancer opposition Uranus and neptune conj. on the 10th house in Capricorn, possible Grand Trine (mercury, pluto in scorpio, mars in cancer trine the ascendant in pisces). I think have every “problem” in my life related to Mars/Cancer energy: lack of self-confidence, social detachment, difficulties expressing my anger, all are there; but also I feel clumsy, I’ve a speech impairment and am physically inept despite being a dancer and a very active person pretty much all my life. I also have my sun AND moon in scorpio, so it kinda explains my desired career that I’ve always felt like I could never pursue. I’ve always wanted to be a singer/songwriter but my memories of being ridiculed for being weird and messy (which I have been) at times trumps the amount of awe I brought when I put my emotions on stage or shared my poetry which I could use to have more confidence. I know I probably should concentrate more on what my mars means but is anything I said even remotely correct? Hahaha I’d appreciate your time

    1. It is Uranus-Neptune that are the problem but Mars in Cancer is not a strong position. I have Saturn in Cancer and I consider it my weakness. Neptune indicates that a parent did not want you to grow up or grow away or succeeed where that parent failed with her dreams — then discouragement sabotages your energies. I have a Mars-Neptune aspect myself. Maybe information from my article on Mars and Depression might help…

      This Mars (in Cancer) finds it easier to express anger towards family members rather than directly at the offending person. Fear and Fear of the Unknown are at the root of Mars in Cancer depression.
      This Mars is both emotional and irrational in its angry reactions. There may be moods that cause the individual to shut down emotionally rather than express anger. If this mood lasts too long, it becomes a depression. These people should never eat when angry or upset since foods become toxins in this state.

      The Mars will sulk and cry when depressed but a good cry is very helpful to pulling them out of a depressed state. Men are less likely to cry; men are more likely to shut down and withdraw.
      Depression can occur when they feel that they have given too much nurturing to others and nothing is given back to them.

      GETTING OUT: I find that Mars Water signs can release anger, anger that could become depression, by symbolically “killing something.” A woman with Mars in Pisces gave an excellent solution: she confided that she hated loud noises so, in killing something, she threw her sweaters around the room. When she was finished, she just picked them up and packed them back in the drawers. This Mars always needs support and reassurance, affection, to get out of a depression. Talking with an Empath can prove helpful. A well-known therapist in my area told me that, if you can talk about your feelings with a good friend, this is as good as therapy.
      Mars in Cancer square Neptune in Libra can have a family pattern of alcoholism. Even if the person does not drink or use drugs, there will be other addictions, such as food or gambling, which are a release or escape from depression. But, after they have eaten too much or lost money, they eventually become depressed.

      With Mars in Cancer, the individual should never eat when angry or upset since food will become more of a toxin.

      With Water signs so strong, the LYMPHATIC SYSTEM becomes congested without movement or when feeling fear. Yoga, Tai Chi, Aerobics, using a rebounder or walking outside and drinking water help.

  7. I second everyone’s gratitude for coming across this post on kites! This is so well-researched and comprehensive, thank you, Lynn. Do you use the nodes in kite formations? I have a client who has the nodes as the opposition points with a grand trine in fire and am curious what this would be interpreted as given that the nodes are naturally in opposition. Thanks so much!

    1. A good question but Nodes are not any object in the sky. I never use them in patterns such as the Yod. I have a controversial interpretation of the Nodes based upon over 50 years of observations. Your client does not want a Kite. It so frustrates the Grand Trine.

  8. Hi! I was born on June 6, 1971 and have a kite configuration with Chiron in Aries in 4th house (apex planet) opposing Uranus in Libra in 10th house. Uranus is one of the planets in an Air Grand Trine configuration with Sun in Gemini in 7th and Mars in Aquarius in 3rd house. I’m 50 yrs old and I’ve never been able to actualize my deep desire to have my dream home and each day that dream seems further away. Suffered a major relationship crisis, ending a 25 yrs partnership (we never married), a couple of years ago. Besides from being very successful as a higher learning geek (collecting college degrees just for fun) ended being employed as a blue-collar employee and never as a professional white-collar one. So far, it seems a somewhat bitter sweet experience. Not as fortunate as a Grand Trine though. Thank you.

    1. You actually have an excellent Grand Air Trine with nice planets for a trine. The opposing planets pose the problem. Chiron in Aries has the wound of a self-worth deficiency – valuing others over self. This needs to be addressed ASAP! There is another Object (check out Transpluto on my website) that indicates a fear of criticism and rejection. There is no perfection in this world or any of the lower dimensions. I AM HUMAN, THEREFORE, NOTHING HUMAN IS ALIEN TO ME. You have a gift as a communicator and problem-solver. It is not too late.

  9. Hello,

    Thank you so much for this informative article on kites. Here I was excited to learn more about the aspect thinking there would be a pot of gold written in my script, and to my surprise they stand in the way more than they help. Either way I’m excited to learn more about this star configuration as it relates to my personal chart. If you have any advice I’d appreciate it.

    My kite features a Moon 23 Taurus and Mars 24 Scorpio in opposition. Additionally, Sun in 27 Virgo, Neptune in 27 Capricorn. The moon is in the 6th and Mars is in the 12th house. Sun is in 10th and Neptune in 2nd. I’m also a 23 year old male. Thank you!

    1. The Key here is the Taurus-Scorpio opposition. In Esoterics, it is a Ray 4 pattern — Harmony from Conflict. There was much conflict in the early with a mother – the Taurus-Scorpio opposition creates a tension like a spider who feels a tug on its web. It is an extreme sensitivity that can make you appear fussy or moody without understanding that you are sensitive to sound, color and vibrations — to which very few others are. Yes, there are a lot of anger issues but you must transmute this. These people do extremely well in careers that utilize this sensitivity — holistic healing (sensing subtle vibrations) and the arts, anything utilizing the sensitivity to sound, color and vibration. But, unresolved anger can be the stumbling block. Alice Miller wrote a very small book, DRAMA OF THE GIFTS CHILD. This might help you understand why your mother was so angry and jealous.

  10. Hi! I have a grand fire trine that features Jupiter in Leo 17 degrees , Sun in Sagittarius 22 degrees, Pluto in Sagittarius 17 degrees, and Moon in Aries 23 degrees. My kite happens because of the opposition between Jupiter and Uranus in Aquarius 25 degrees. I’m 18 years old now and I have been trying to learn astrology for 5 months now but I don’t know how to solve the opposition to reach my full potential with my grand fire trine. I would be so glad if you can help. Thank you so much and have a great day!

    1. Many people are writing to me with this same Kite and born in 2002-03. Fire Trines are highly motivational, not fond of desk work. Saturn in Gemini does not like the burdens of undefined responsibilities, or feeling trapped. I have 3 planets in Gemini — I cannot work for others; I am responsible but I need to know exactly what I have to do so I know what is my FREE TIME. Jupiter opposing Uranus in Aquarius needs a lot of space and you cannot RELATE to conservative types, wearing suits and working in a office. There may be a conflict between feeling a free spirit and control issues.

  11. Hello Lynn, thank you so much for sharing all the resources that you do, I feel they give me more perspective on things.
    I have possibly 2 kites: Sun in 27° Gemini _ Ascendant in 26° Libra (conjunct Chiron in 25° Libra) _ Jupiter in 21° Aquarius + Descendant in 26° Aries opposing the ASC
    (But this might not count as the ASC and DSC oppose each other by nature)
    Kite 2 is: Mercury in 18° Gemini _ Ascendant in 26° Libra (conjunct Chiron in 25° Libra) _ Jupiter in 21° Aquarius + Saturn in 18° Aries opposing the ASC
    Sun in 9th house, Mercury in 8th house, Jupiter in 4th house, Saturn in 6th house.
    Considering squares to the oppositions I have Venus 17° Cancer 9H square Saturn
    and Neptune 29° Capricorn 3H square both my ASC and DSC.
    With where I’m at in my life right now I think I’m looking for purpose/identity and Saturn has me beating myself up for not being at the top of everything already. I also want to find a way to reconcile with my Scorpio moon in 2H that I pushed away as a child because it used to really break my spirit/friendships with its massive intensity. They remind me of this with strained neck/shoulders and an everpresent icky feeling of something stuck in my stomach haha.
    I think mostly this life for me is about finding selfconfidence and then having the guts to follow that (yod of moon sextile neptune + apex sun). It would surely make it easier to give into Virgo mars conjunct Virgo north node in 11H urges to be involved with activisim, where I’m still too scared to damage my reputation now.
    I feel like I have already learned many lessons in 23 years yet I still feel so impatient to learn more soon, like I really achieved something meaningful. I hope you don’t think I am oversharing too much, I don’t mean to seem rude!
    But thanks again for this website, it’s rare for me to find experienced astrologers among all the young trendy bloggers haha.

    1. You only have 1 Grand Trine in Air with Sun-Mercury/ASC-Chiron/Jupiter. Normally, to most astrologers, it would just be a very nice Grand Air Trine — communications, networking, counseling (Libra is a Fixer), coordinating…working with the mind.
      I have used Transpluto (22 Leo) since 1972 and I have 2 articles on my website. The Brief is the easiest one to read but it is like a super Virgo. In the 10th, there is a need to be a perfectionist and to be self-sufficienct so that people cannot get so close that they can criticize, try to change you or tell you what to do — a block to “people skills.”
      You have a LOT of Ending Planets. This is from my manual that I am writing as a book….

      An Ending Planet is the one that is the latest by degree in the chart but the planet must be positioned between 24-25 and 29 degrees. There is an energy that may be over-developed by the individual and, as a result, it can become distorted. With the Ending Planet, the individual must and does learn to let go of the tendency to hold onto the planet’s energy. But, individual may go to extremes with the Ending Planet before releasing the energy. Some students observe that they feel compelled or even forced to do this.

      There is a noticeable trait that colors an Ending Planet – the attribute of DISENGAGING. They reach a certain point and then they disengage. When others become upset and emotional, the Ending Moon disengages, becoming a calming force. When there is nothing left to learn in a relationship, Venus disengages. When they become angry or bored, Mars disengages. When what initially gave them a sense of control but now makes them feel out of control, Pluto will disengage.

      When there are many Ending Planets in the chart, it describes an obsessive type of personality that must go to extremes with everything before they can let go. They must go to the precipice before they can take that leap of faith, let go and move on. To be honest, this is really a style of action and, as with an Ending Mercury, it is a process that they must go through before they feel sufficiently secure and comfortable enough to move forward. This is not a pattern that needs to be changed but rather a pattern of behavior demonstrated by the Ending Planet.

  12. Hello, thank you for writing such an informative article! I feel almost well versed in the subject, and I have been looking around online for a while trying to truly interpret the different aspects and parts of my zodiac chart so I can better understand astrology. I was wondering if there was any way you would be able to help understand the kites in my chart, as they seem to be the part of my chart I am personally having a lot of trouble interpreting. I have two grand trines, one air with my Saturn ASC and Sun (Gemini, Aquarius, and Libra respectively) and one earth with my Moon Mars and Venus (Taurus, Capricorn, and Virgo). The Air grand trine has my Saturn opposing my Sagittarius Pluto and my Earth grand trine has my Mars opposing my Cancer Jupiter. There are so many elements being meshed in my placements and I am super interested in knowing the details of how I can overcome the obstacles that can come with these oppositions. I completely understand if you do not want to engage as this is a question of personal curiosity, and I’ve learned so much from your responses to other replies already; there is an important Lunar eclipse coming up in regards to my chart and I would love to understand these oppositions more. Thank you for your time and energy, and wonderful article again!

    1. It is very difficult for me to visualize charts when only the planets are mentioned. The oppositions denote the blocks to your Air and Earth Trines. First, Saturn in Gemini opposing Pluto denotes a major problem with commitments and responsibilities. I have 3 planets in Gemini so I empathize! Saturn in Gemini needs to know exactly what is expected in a work situation — basically, so that you will know what is your free time! If you try to be in control (Pluto) by trying to maintain high standards (in Sagittarius), you will only feel frustrated and frustration leads to health issues (respiratory).

      Mars is always well placed in Capricorn but the opposition to Jupiter in Cancer is an aspect that causes one to OVER-REACT when something is perceived as unjust and unfair. I have a square and I will go to my grave over-reacting as my personal flaw to overcome. I have to stop myself and realize that, if I am angry, I am probably wrong. Not wrong about what is unjust or unfair but by how I am reacting. Anger issues cause cause (Capricorn) gall bladder issues and disturbances in your Earth sign sense of security.

  13. Hello Lynn, I have a kite formation in my chart and another grand trine, I am unsure of what it entails. My kite’s opposition is between my Moon in 3 ° Gemini in the 11th house with both my Mercury & Pluto in 7° & 8° Sagittarius in my 5th house. The other two points of the trine in my kite are Mars 3° in Libra in the 3rd house & Uranus 9° in Aquarius in the 7th house. The other trine I have that does not form a kite is between the Moon & Mars again but with Neptune 0° in Aquarius in my 7th house.

    1. First, I use Transpluto in the charts (2 articles on my website) and, at 25 Leo R, it forms a Grand Fire Trine which is NOT a Kite (TP-Venus-Saturn). TP and Saturn in Ending degrees indicate that you need to be either self-employed or work independent from an “overseer.” Strong Fire in the chart indicates a good teacher (all kinds of subjects), inspiring and motivating others.

      Since I always use wide orbs, all of the planets in the Air signs form a single Grand Air Trine. Psychological astrologers from the 1970s always used wide orbs. It is too long to explain here. I also use Placidus because interceptions are important.
      Whole House was selected because using trigonometry to calculate House cusps was horrible and subject to error in the math. Whole House was an option for those who did not want to do that much math (some astrologers use to do this in Prague until the 1990s). But, Cosmobiology does not use House cusps at all – everything works bit each in a different way.

      Mercury R in the 4th marks someone who is a brood and ponderer who needs quiet in order to think. There is a Stellium by sign in this chart with Sagittarius so the planets operate in unison. But, to simplify, I will focus upon the tightest aspect. Moon-Mercury opposition denotes a fear of communicating one’s feelings – a pattern from the childhood. There is a fear that one must always be right or criticized. Pluto denotes a family where either words were used to control or one much control one’s words and feelings.

      The tightest Grand Air Trine is with Beginning Planets – you always have to teach yourself how to use these planets. Fire and Air are communicators but you much not allow the family patterns to block your gift.

  14. Hi, I’ve learned some new things reading your article. Everything resonates. I was born August 29, 1999. I have a fire grand trine (Moon in 13° Aries, North Node in 11° Leo, Pluto in 7° Sagittarius). I have Uranus in 13° Aquarius which sits in my first house opposing my north node in Leo. I’m curious to any feedback you would have on this aspect. Thank you!

    1. First, Aaron, the Nodes are not an Object of any kind so it is not used as a Point to make a Grand Trine so you do not have a Kite — and you really do not want one. The Moon-Pluto trine is a good aspect on its own. I suggest reading Betty Lunsted’s ASTROLOGICAL INSIGHTS INTO THE PERSONALITY where she analyses aspects psychologically.
      I have not posted my Nodes lecture here. It is very controversial.

      THE NODES OF THE MOON – The Journey of the Prodigal Child with Lynn Koiner

      Most people always refer the Martin Schulman’s book on the Moons’ Nodes as the Bible on this topic. This interpretation, because it is KARMIC, is never challenged but I do challenge these old interpretations. The interpretation works but not exactly as he described it.

      The North Node-South Node-North Node transition is what I call the Journey of the Prodigal Child, a Journey to experience the Not-Self (South Node) and integrate it into the True Self (North Node). Indeed, some people do get stuck in the South Node but we all must venture back home to the North Node.
      South Node Aquarius/North Node Leo:

      The individual must learn how to be a part of the collective, the issues of the masses, learning what it is like to be a small part in the whole. Aquarius needs to learn to be objective, to see the Whole/the Big Picture and to not have favorites.

      If you stay too long in Aquarius SN, you can become isolated and lost in collective. Power and authority of Leo can seem strange or intimidating – but you are going to have to take this journey. Teaching astrology and honoring your authority in a subject is moving in the Leo direction. But, when you go there, you should be the good Leo who honors diversity in others because you have known being different yourself.

      1. Oh wow, this is very insightful! Being in an authoritative position has always felt awkward for me and it’s interesting you mentioned “teaching astrology”, I could see myself doing that in the future.
        Anyways, thank you for the quick feedback and I will be sure to check out that reading!

  15. Hi! I was born on March 15th, 1998. I have a kite configuration as follows: Mercury in 12° Aries,
    Ascendant in 4° Leo, Pluto in 8° Sagittarius, Mars in 8° Aries, Uranus in 11° Aquarius, and
    Venus in 9° Aquarius. I have a Grand Fire Trine with: Mercury in 12° Aries, Ascendant in 4° Leo,
    Pluto in 8° Sagittarius, and Mars in 8° Aries. Multiple planet opposition with: Neptune in 1° Aquarius, Ascendant in 4° Leo, Uranus in 11° Aquarius, and Venus in 9° Aquarius. I have been looking into what this means and would appreciate what you have to say. Thank you.

    1. Anna, while I use the ASC to make a Grand Trine, I never use it as an opposition point. So, without an actual planet in Leo, you would not have a Kite. But this is a good thing. With regard to the planets in the 7th, Uranus and Aquarius are associated with transpersonal relationships whereby the vision and goal in the relationship is more important than the relationship and actual closeness — they should be goal-oriented.

  16. Good afternoon Lynn, funny, we have almost the same name fam! I recently got interested in the chart patterns and would like to dig deeper into it and improve my personality to the fullest, while seeing which part of me I have been taking for granted and what potentials I can develop. Couple things about me that friends always talking about is: my funny side (Gemini 9° 48′ sun conjunct Gemini 10° 8′ mercury in the 11th house), a guy with long hair and highly stylish sense (I think it is the rebellious Aquarius moon in 7th house + Leo rising at 1st). In short, I am Mercury and Mars evenly dominant, Air and Earth evenly dominant. After the general info, I would like to hear your insights about how to take full advantage of my “Kite” pattern.

    My Grand Trine is:
    Mars in 8° Virgo
    MC in 3° Taurus
    Neptune in 4° Capricorn

    Kite:
    Mars in 8° Virgo
    MC in 3° Taurus
    Neptune in 4° Capricorn
    Venus in 2° Cancer

    As you can see, my Venus Cancer is opposing Neptune Capricorn. The tricky thing I have tremendous amount of drive and a very self-disciplined person who wants to succeed very much, and I have very high standards on my appearance. I always use my look/clothes to add icing on the cake to my life/career. But my love life hasn’t been going well. Just turned 24 y/o this June, but I have never been in a relationship for more than 2 months. I always want to prioritize school/work before deciding to seriously fall in love. If I have a new job or when the new semester kicks in, I will automatically return to the “single” mode, because I don’t think I can combine work and relationship well together at the same time.

    Although I am a care-free Gemini dominant who likes changes, I always like to make plans, especially before important dates or daily schedules/routines. I think this has something to do with my Mars Virgo. And when I started dating someone, my inside became very clingy and nurturing (it took me a long time to train not to show this), I think this is the reason for Venus Cancer.

    Does this have anything to do with my “kite” pattern, since Mars, MC, Neptune, and Venus are all involved in everything I just shared.

    1. Personally, I do not consider a Grand Trine that involves the MC to be a true Kite (why would you want a Kite anyway). But, you do have a beginning Venus and it opposes Neptune. That is the main issue here. Beginning Venus cannot size up the difference between Friend and Friendly. You are on planet Earth now and the rules are totally different. You are looking for something/someone that worked on say, Arcturus, but you will not be able to find it here. Take time to mature and learn the relating rules on this planet. I have 3 planets in Gemini and I do not want to be trapped either. Transpersonal relating will work better for you — finding someone with who you share long range goals

  17. Hi Lynn
    I have the following in my chart: (8H) Mercury 7 Scorpio, (1H) Moon 1 Pisces, (6H) Saturn 4 Cancer. Opposition: Mercury/ Mars (2H) retrograde 6 Taurus. In recent years I have learned to channel my mars energy in a healthier manner which has helped me enormously. Prior to this I suffered depression for years. I’m not sure how my Grand water trine manifests but I’m aware other people do spill their insecurities, worries to me rather a lot. Almost confessional and sometimes folk I’ve just met.
    Also I have on occasion (when someone has said something to me I’ve taken as unjust or hurtful) fired an unintentionally cutting reply back at them, lightening speed. They have been quite taken aback. Not intentionally offensive (but truthful and home truths not always welcomed), it just comes out so fast it hasn’t gone through my usual filter. My Jupiter squares both Mercury and Mars. Also if I’m stressed in fight or flight mode, I’ve tried to something appropriate and its come out wrong and has been taken with offence. I’m an (8H) Libra Sun (conjunct Uranus) – stellium in 8th. Any comments gratefully received. Thank you!

    1. Stacey, I have a Mars-Jupiter square and I may go to my grave working on my tendency to over-react when I perceive something as unjust or unfair. I actually think it has gotten worse in my old age but I will not give up. Learning to channel your anger is excellent because anger internalized = depression. Avoid wearing the color blue around draining people. Wear regal red (even expensive red underwear helps) and listen to Wagner’s Ride of the Valkyrie and The Entrance of the Gods into Valhalla. These are empowering techniques that work very well.
      I have an article on Retrogrades through the Houses. Some are missing and I need to find them in the archive of my old website. But, Mars R indicates that your family did not know how to express anger effectively so you have inherited this lesson to be learned. Water signs rule the Occipital Lobe of the Brain. This is connected with Serotonin (5HTP) which is mainly stored in the stomach. Learn to stay calm, always put your cards on the table and be honest about how you feel.
      BTW, the 8th House is the most obsessive House but it is essential that you obsess on issues outside of yourself — it rules all types of healing, even technological and financial. You must direct energies towards other and not self.

  18. I am so happy I found this site! Thank you so much for writing this! I have a grand fire trine. Moon in Aries, Ascendant, Mars and Venus in Leo, Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune in Sagittarius. My Kite is moon (9th house) opposite Pluto in Libra (3rd house). I have been trying to understand this, and how I can unlock the grand trine. I would appreciate any insight you may have. Thank you!

    1. You have some great planets in that Fire Trine. Fire should work in areas that inspire, motivate, challenge and drive others into action. Fire needs recognition and they do not like people to go against their better judgment. It is interesting that anger in Fire can impact the gall bladder. You can google what helps the gall bladder but I know that the gall bladder cannot process cheese and chocolate I take Ox Bile if I eat these as a digestive aid for cheese and chocolate.
      The Moon in Aries prefers people who think and act like yourself or agree with you. The opposition to Pluto has to do with control issues that came from your mother generally. It means that, as a child, she felt different, not like other children. She was lonely and did not always feel that she fit in. This has impacted her relationship with you.
      If you give advice, just give it and move on. Do not try to fix anyone. Travel and explores different ideas will prove beneficial See if you can find Betty Lunsted’s book, ASTROLOGICAL INSIGHTS INTO THE PERSONALITY.

  19. Hi Lynn. Not excited to have two kite formations in my chart after reading your article and the commentary you’ve generously responded to. I am trying to decode them and noted your book recommendation by Betty Lundsted. I am born June 6, 1977. Grand Air Trine is 2H Jupiter 14* conjunct Sun 15* Gemini, 6H Pluto rx 11* Libra, 10H Moon 17* Aquarius. 1st Opposition point is Moon to 4H Saturn 12* Leo. 2nd opposition is Jupiter/Sun conjunction to 8H Neptune rx 14* Sagittarius. These oppositions are key for me; particularly the Moon/Saturn one as it is part of a grand cross as well (1H AC10*Taurus, 4H Saturn 12* Leo, 7H Uranus 8*, 10H Moon 17* Aquarius). Feels like a whole lot of potential for blockage. Looking for a focus are or a key area to work on to help unlock. Maybe no such thing. 🙂

    1. There is only one Grand Trine/Kite but it involves 2 oppositions. Saturn is actually conjunct Transpluto at 16 Leo and you can read about this on my website. Saturn-Transpluto denotes a critical-perfectionist sense of responsibilities that Gemini cannot tolerate for there are avoidance issues that keep you from using your potential. Bottom line, stick with your excellent Grand Air Trine and stay in a field of communications. I have 3 planets in Gemini and a lousy Saturn. I live out of my head with astrology. I have problems with avoidance because Real World Responsibilities make me feel trapped. With a beginning Venus and a Sun-Jupiter-Neptune aspect, you may have a difficult time sizing up people. Stick with people who a real and keep their cards on the table — avoid phony role players.

  20. I have learned so much from this site. Thank you so very much! I have a grand water trine kite and would appreciate any help you can offer.
    02/21/1967 – 2:42pm-Abingdon VA
    Moon 22 conjunct Jupiter 25 conjunct ASC 20 in Cancer
    Trine Mercury 18, Chiron 24, Venus 27, 9th house Pisces
    Trine Neptune 24 Scorpio 5th house
    Oppositions to Uranus 23 and Pluto 19 Virgo 3rd house
    I feel strongly called to learn more astrology and seek the Akashic records. Should I pursue this path? Thank you from the bottom of my heart for any input.

    1. Angela, Planets in Water signs and Water Houses are connected with a specific Soul Group: There is a strong connection to the GROUP MIND. Your thoughts are your thoughts but they are colored by the others or the thoughts of others trigger your own thoughts. This group is strongly associated with HEALING WORK and RITUALS — and the TRANSMUTTION OF ENERGY. M.G feels that his specialty is the healing of emotionally based illness – possibly due to his own strong emotional nature. When doing hands on work, he makes a clicking sound. Sometimes Michael feels depressed and feels that he wants to go home. In his case, it is those left behind who long to have him return and he can pick up on their thoughts.
      FOCUS: Healing and Ritual. Acupressure type seems more his style. Ritual activity seems to help him feel connected. Energy work and rituals are very tangible to his group. Healing and ritual is grounding and anchoring. There is an interesting connection with the ritual of sex but I will not comment on it here.

      Sometimes Michael has “drained” periods. It is during these period that he is actually working with his Group on another level. He has to tell them to STOP when it causes an interference. He starts bumping into things as he is not fully in this world. These People are members of the RanDOW. One of the Orion group is a Lizard and it is the one who is furthest out, rarely speaks.
      The 8th and 12th Houses have the strongest connection with healing and research. With so many planets in early degrees, it shows that you are not really an Earth Person and you have not been on this planet for a long time (like most Atlanteans). Much of earthly life is very new for you. With a Beginning Sun, you manifest a free-floating personality (a good thing) by which you will have many new cycles in your life — you enter a cycle to learn something but when you have learned all that you need you move onto a new cycle — you extract what you need to know and then leave. You are learning about life here and you have a lot to learn. Life should be a smorgasbord.

      The Opposition from Pluto warns against stubbornly reacting to control issues – people putting words in your mouth, when you feel bullied. I recommend reading Betty Lunsted’s ASTROLOGICAL INSIGHTS INTO THE PERSONAITY.

  21. Hi Lynn, I have found it very interesting to read your article and gain more insight into how the energies of the kite formation interplay with each other, thank you so much for taking the time to write this! The fact that you give such detailed responses to people questions and comments is also really valuable and so appreciated as one can learn so much from reading through them (they are like little miniature case studies!)

    Something about the fact that you keep mentioning variations in the comments of “you don’t want to have a kite” is somewhat jarring to me however, since to me astrology is really not about what we ‘want to have’ in our chart, and too often I think we really WANT to paint either a beautiful picture (or a story of drama/victimhood) that we can use and an accessory for the forming/projecting of our identity, rather than being fully present with ourselves and our situation – I know I certainly am guilty of this! I see Astrology much more as being about working with the makeup/situation we are presented with (or have chosen!), and the challenges it presents for us to overcome to achieve the most growth/evolution. So to me the emphasis on kites as a “bad” thing, takes away from the fact that it is (like anything in astrology) ultimately something neutral, that can be expressed in either a negative (blocked) or a positive (channeled) expression. The challenges the kite poses, although difficult, can present huge (and beneficial) opportunities for self development. I know you also do describe this in your post and responses, but I just wanted to emphasise!

    As this relates to me personally, as it I have a grand water trine with Mars in Taurus (conjunct Moon) opposing Jupiter in Scorpio. I’m not sure to what extent the Moon is playing a role here as it doesn’t quite form the right aspects with other planets to be part of the kite (I’m sure its easier for you to see this than that i try to explain > 6/6/1994, 12:38PM, Gaborone).

    I’ve read here how you characterise hard Mars/Jupiter aspects (over-reacting, anger, lashing-out etc.), but don’t really feel these expressions in my life as much and am wondering if you could elaborate more on the various possible expressions of this aspect, (especially of course in its context to the kite formation in my chart!). Im very curious on your thoughts of what role the position of the moon could play here as well.

    Thank you again and I wish you a lovely day!

  22. Hi Lynn
    Thank you for Your great research!
    Me and my partner, my mother and daughters Bf all have kites and my daughter does if you include NN .. ?

    So I’ve done some observations and how you explain it, is how I have previously felt. It is hard work , living with this energy for sure. But lately I feel more comfortable within myself.

    10th H – Pluto Libra 17* opposite 4th H Aries moon 21*

    Moon part of grand fire trine-9th house Leo sun/Jupiter 19*leo Venus 15* all trine to 1st house sag Neptune 17*

    Sun/Jupiter/Venus all square to Scorpio Uranus 17*. To add to that, an out OOB 8th cancer mars with no major aspects just a semi sextile to 8th mercury that also has no major aspects, Scorpio rising 29*. I feel like I survived an apocalypse and Im putting things back together.

    1. Many people ask this question about the Nodes but Nodes are not objects of any kind so that cannot be used to form patterns. My interpretation for the Nodes is based upon over 50 years of experience (yes, I am that old but I did start early). I always analyze these separately.

      Your Grand Fire Trine is a good one — Fire is good for a motivator, one who inspires others, educator, and creative communicator (seminars workshops, webinars etc)
      The Block with Moon-Pluto has to do with control issues. This comes from Mother who felt alone and not like others when she was a child. She projected this onto you around 4 years of age.

      When your are strong Saturn or Pluto, a “bad” Uranus can be helpful as it is more rebellious. But, it can be passive-aggressive. I always recommend Betty Lunsted’s ASTROLOGICAL INSIGHTS INTO THE PERSONALITY. This really helped me get a handle on aspects.
      There is a Moon-Uranus 150 aspect — in communicating, use humor and allegory to get people to change their mind rather than the direct approach that may shut down communication. Alan Epstein’s book on Inconjuncts is my favorite since he gives the Talents that go with the inconjunct — and these are VERY, VERY important and people usually do manifest these.

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