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Esoteric Saturn

The horoscope should be read at 2 levels:

1. The growth and unfolding of the Personality

2. The growth and unfolding of the Soul

Capricorn/Saturn represent the densest point of concrete materialization of which the human Soul is capable of experiencing.

Saturn represents “The Dweller on the Threshold” – in facing this Dweller, we face our past and our fears. Capricorn, as a sign, fears losing control, dependency and feeling helpless; this is the loss of trust, trust in the Higher Self.

1. The Saturn Sign is your personal Dweller in this lifetime

2. The House position is Where you will face the Dweller

a. The House is where you are forced to work out your Karma

In a distant past when there were only 10 signs in the Zodiac, Capricorn represented the highest to which a man could aspire.

In Atlantis, the door was opened for Man to enter the 5th Kingdom-– the Aquarius and Pisces were added to the zodiac. These signs represent Service to Humanity as a member of or working with the 5th Kingdom, the World Server and the World Savior.

Blavatsky wrote about a point in human history, back in old Atlantis, when the Door was opened for man to enter into the 5th Kingdom of Souls, to the realm of the Adepts. It seems that there was a Great Cosmic Crisis in another part of the Universe that required many of the 5th Kingdom Masters to vacate their posts. At this point, Man was allowed to aspire to fill these positions and, I feel, that this is when the 2 signs of Aquarius and Pisces were added.

NOTE: Sirius, at 13 Cancer, is the home of the Hierarchy, the Borw Chakra of a Great Galactic Entity and the Heart Chakra of a Galactic Entity— Beings in which we live, move and have our existence— Hylozoism. This Star Chakra is where the Great Plan is formulated and carried out. Interestingly, as we are in a Ray II Solar System, Love-Wisdom, those with this Fixed Star prominent are extremely humanitarian and it represents a Socialistic form of government. Sirius is also the Heart Chakra of another system, hence, it represents both love and will energies.

In Cancer, NORTH, is where the Soul first enters that Center called Humanity. Bailey, Blavatsky and even Edgar Cayce all say that Cancer was the sign of the first human incarnation; Capricorn and working with Saturn is the Gateway to the Hierarchy. Aries and Libra represent the Aspect of Consciousness created through the interplay between Spirit and Matter.

Capricorn represents the Best and the Worst of Humanity. Through Saturn, its exoteric and esoteric ruler, it can be greedy, selfish and materialistic (lack of trust and the trust to love) yet all World Servers are born under Capricorn.

SATURN, as ruler of Capricorn, forces us to deal with the glamor and illusions represented by the Moon in our horoscope. The Moon is said to represent the Prison of the Soul which has us cling to our past. The Moon rules feelings, emotions, desires that APPEAR to be reality but they are not. The Moon rules our past, past conditioning, the conditioning of our emotions and it is the emotions of the Mother that we absorb as our own. The Moon influences us through the Solar Plexus and the astral body – it makes us feel high, it makes us feel low; it makes us feel loved, it makes us feel unworthy. It whips us around in a maelstrom of emotion. It all seems so real but it is only the Glamor of this World.

Saturn rules boundaries, limitations, the rules and our societal dictations, NO, DON’T and CAN’T. It makes the things of the physical appear to be all that there is. Neptune dissolves our boundaries, the boundary of the etheric web, the seal to other dimensions. However, in going through these other dimensions, you must quickly pass through purgatory…the astral plane and the lower mental plane, before we finally reach the realm of the Causal Body…and, in the scheme of things, even this is not that high up.

When we ultimately enter the 5th Kingdom of the Hierarchy, Venus replaces Saturn – ruling the Higher Mind, intelligent and transpersonal love that aspires for the good of the Whole.

The symbol for Capricorn is in reality the Dragon, the Dragon of Wisdom and the Mind of the Soul. In the Secret Doctrine, it is stated that, in the constellation of Capricorn, reside the 5th Hierarchy of Spirits who are commissioned to stimulate the Mind in Man. Remember, it is 18 million years ago that the Lords of Flame came from Venus to bring the Spark of Mind to animal man. It was 1 million years ago that the seeds of the Aryan Root Race were first planted in Central Europe.

The 1000 Petaled Lotus:

1. Knowledge Petals ruled by Taurus, Leo and Scorpio

2. Love Petals ruled by Gemini, Virgo and Sagittarius

3. Sacrifice Petals ruled by Aries, Cancer and Libra (even Cancer is the sacrifice to incarnate), sacrificing the lesser for the greater. Example of student.

4. Initiation Petals are ruled by Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces

SATURN SIGNS AS CLUES

SATURN IN ARIES: “You be what I tell you to be” indoctrination. Lesson to break free from this limitation of being and find rapid access to the Higher Self in dealing with Crisis.

SATURN IN TAURUS: Responsibility and material acquisitiveness-– WWII and the recent Market Crash. Taurus is ruled by Vulcan, free one’s self from the chains of materialism.

SATURN IN GEMINI: Thoughts are things; clarity of responsibility; feeling trapped by expectations.

Work on the Love Petals in dealing with people.

SATURN IN CANCER: Childhood imbued with the fears, guilts and insecurity of the family. Right and wrong based upon emotions. Sacrifice our personal security for the security and welfare of humanity. Example – overcoming my fears to work in Eastern Europe…now I have overcome a lot of fear.

SATURN IN LEO: Responsibility dictated by respect for others. Lesson in doing something – not because of a fear of punishment, rejection, disrespect or because you seek reward…but simply because it is the right thing to do.

SATURN IN VIRGO: Perfectionism and the Love Petals are incompatible! This is the great flaw, the striving to be perfect. There is no perfection. I am human, therefore, nothing human is alien to me. Turning imperfection into assets.

SATURN IN LIBRA: Do it because of others – sacrificing self in order to work with the whole, seeing the big picture, coordinating, the gestalt.

SATURN IN SCORPIO: If you are not in control, do it all yourself and do it perfectly, something terrible will happen. Lesson in Trust.

SATURN IN SAGITTARIUS: Responsibilities are more abstract – not have you cleaned your room but did you maintain standards of codes and ethics. Whose codes, by whose ethical standards. One who upholds high standards.

SATURN IN CAPRICORN: Achievement on a day to day level. What have you done today. The individual can feel overwhelmed by these day to day demands. Changing structures that support rather than oppress— the 1960s and the 1989-90.

SATURN IN AQUARIUS: The rules are always right/wrong, black/white, not grey areas. Rebellion against authority should manifest as bringing in the needed reforms that benefit humanity. Don’t just tear down— build something constructive.

SATURN IN PISCES: These people can shoulder responsibilities, putting the weight of the world on their shoulders. This can lead to illness or a lot of whining and complaining. Define boundaries for others, define your own boundaries and shoulder responsibilities for something that you believe in strongly.

  1. Lynn Koiner Says:

    I never intended for Saturn in Scorpio to be read the way that you have interpreted. It is the person with Saturn in Scorpio who carries this attitude…but it is not true. It is such fears, the ones that you have just written about, that must be confronted and released.

    “The Saturn Sign is your personal Dweller in this lifetime.”
    This refers to the fears of the Saturn sign. Fears are not reality, except in the mind.

  2. Gregory Says:

    Hello Lynn! I’m a Gemini, born in 1991.

    SATURN IN AQUARIUS: The rules are always right/wrong, black/white, not grey areas. Rebellion against authority should manifest as bringing in the needed reforms that benefit humanity. Don’t just tear down— build something constructive.”

    That’s so true! I have Saturn in Aquarius and when I get angry or rebel, I tend to be destructive. I need to be a little more altruistic/humanitarian.

  3. melissa Says:

    9th house Saturn in Gemini

    My experience is that of trusting my intuition, of trusting things that can not be proven, of accepting the unknown, trust/accept my inner voice and the struggle to focus. Thoughts are not things to me. they are greater and beyond language (I think this is my Saturn opposite Neptune Mars conjunction).

    Saturn is opposite 3rd house Mars Neptune Sagittarius conjunction, sextile 11th house Leo Moon, and trine Ascendant.

    I also have a Capricorn stellium: Venus, Jupiter, Mercury, & Sun. Interestingly I have a mutual reception with Saturn in Gemini and Venus in Capricorn conjunct IC (1 degree orb). I also have Capricorn Jupiter Mercury Sun conjunction square Uranus in Libra 1st house (soul’s purpose triangle). & finally my sun is at 29 Capricorn 58 (about 40 minutes away from a sign change into Aquarius)

    Going off on a slight tangent I think it is curious that exoterically I have a Saturn Mercury mutual reception, esoterically I have a Saturn Venus mutual reception, and hierarchally I have Venus in Capricorn.

    thanks for the great article :-)

  4. Lynn Koiner Says:

    SATURN TRANSITS/span> (8-2011): Saturn transits are not esoteric. Saturn transits work at the 3-dimensional, material level. When in aspect to itself, it is a time to (re)negotiate your responsibilities with other, remembering to be fair to yourself (Saturn in Libra).
    Erin Sullivan has an excellent book on Saturn Transits.

  5. Nicholas Hall Says:

    Hello Lynn,

    What is your interpretation of Saturn in the 12th, esoterically speaking ?

    E.g. In respect of the “guinea pig” concept: In facing ones own past fears and going within, others can helped in a similar way as a result?

    The usual interpretations describe doom and gloom for this position.

    Incidentally, my Saturn is 27 deg 51 Gemini in the 12th, and conjunct ASC (2 deg Cancer).

  6. David Says:

    SATURN IN LIBRA: Do it because of others – sacrificing self in order to work with the whole, seeing the big picture, coordinating, the gestalt.

    I have Saturn Libra 4th Virgo on the cusp of 4th… SO Im supposed to be sacrificing myself for the whole?

  7. Lynn Koiner Says:

    DAVID (11-2013): I would not emphasize the word sacrifice but Saturn in Libra functions best when organized and coordinates with others.

    ESOTERIC 4th: This House rules environmental issues, the environments in which people lives, humanitarian issues connected with disasters of nature.

    When I began traveling to Europe, I found people who looked exactly like people I knew in America. I found the astrological connection to be with the 4th House…that there must be some ancient, ancestral connection with each other. This House, with the Fixed Star, Antares (9° Sagittarius), rules the Root Chakra – our rootedness to the planet. When disturbed, our immune system is affected. The House position of Antares shows where we can feel rooted. This could be helpful for Immune System diseases. Caroline Myss wrote that, when there is a sickness in society, there is some global sickness. During WWI, there was the Great Influenza. During the Great Depression, there was polio. When the economy improved after WWII, a cure for polio was discovered. The 4th House rules grass-roots political movements and one who always opposes those in office. Spiritually, the 4th is associated with nurturing the very young and very old, visiting and working with the elderly, halfway houses, AA programs, day care centers, services to improving the quality of life for the less fortunate and improving the ecology and environment where you live. This is a House that rules grass roots politics, as well as environmental issues. One environmentalist in Prag has Virgo rising but the Moon is in the 2nd House in Libra. Mars and Saturn are in the 4th but not connected to Soul’s Purpose – this means that it is a vehicle for her anger from her childhood.

    NOTE: I have Antares in my 4th House and I need a permanent home that is always there for me. To live in an apartment and not have a place of my own, I found feel ungrounded and disconnected and, surely, my own immune system would suffer. One student said that she only needed a home that was a safe haven for her, to feel connected to this planet.

  8. Lynn Koiner Says:

    NICHOLAS HALL (11-2013): I will post my interpretation of the 12th House and I hope this helps with the interpretation.
    Saturn in late degrees always needs to work independently and they are often self-employed – or they work independently within an organization, simply because they do not trust the System.

    TWELFTH HOUSE: Qualities deemed intolerable by the parents so we learned to repress these qualities. It is difficult to express the energy of the planet at the personality level so it can only be expressed or cultivated through the career and worldly interaction. It is what we keep from ourselves…and this can bring us great sorrow. It does have a connection with past life issues that impact us now. Gina Cerminara’s Many Mansions I & II give good examples of past life issues and possibilities. I have Mercury in Leo in 12th – an error in judgment from a past life makes me afraid of making certain decisions, possibly fearing that thousands may die if I decide badly. Bush has this in the 1st so he is making these mistakes now. People with planets in the 12th House need private time. Especially with the Sun here, these people can not be ON 24/7. They need to get away. When others get noisy or aggressive, these people get quiet.

    ESOTERIC: This said to be the House of Personal Un-doing. Lack of acceptance, lack of nurturing and lacking in an ability to RECEIVE is truly self-undoing. The emotional handicap we experience creates a self-imposed prison. The sentence ends when we learn to accept ourselves AS IS – as well as others. In going through hell ourselves, we can learn compassion and acceptance of others. This House is a Guinea Pig house —what happens to us we can use to help others. Let go of fear!! Fear itself can provide a feeling of security – I cannot do something because of my “nerves,” my phobias, my fears! Remember, when the ego dominates, you will ALWAYS feel insecure. After this process has taken place, the individual can help others to free themselves from similar entanglement. For example, in the chart of Martin Luther King Jr, Vulcan in Aquarius in the 10th shows a destiny to free people from restricting positions, status and standards of living by opening up professional avenues and changing societal views, such as equal rights for blacks, women and minorities. This House is connected with unseen worlds, spirit guides and going inside for guidance.

    MEDICAL: This is the House of the Guinea Pig! My health issues all help me help others. This House is medical implications connected with repression and lacking an outlet for the 12th House planet(s). Health issues can be karmic in nature. Personally, I have Mercury in Leo in the 12th House. I have always had ear problems, specifically due to infections. After Neptune opposed this Mercury, I noticed that my hearing is not very good. Now I have to really listen to hear others. I obviously tuned others out in the past. I did not listen. Now I have to force myself to hear others.

  9. David Says:

    Hi thanks Lynn for answering about Saturn 4th. So you mentioned Antares, which I have in Sag in my 5th house. I have a large 5th house with planets Pluto Venus in Libra in 5th, then Mercury, Sun, Uranus all in Scorpio, then ANtares Sag right in 5th as well right before the 6th house which is in Sag with Mars and Neptune.

    So what does Antares add to the equation?

  10. David Says:

    One last question… My Antares as I asked this is transiting almost exact my natal antares? Thoughts significance?

  11. Lynn Koiner Says:

    DAVID (12-2013): Antares is where we ground ourselves and what activities help us connect to this planet. So, the activities of the 5th House will help you feel grounded and connected to the planet….children, creativity, working with groups, balancing the chakras.

    ESOTERIC: The 5th House Creativity of the Soul. Its Soul’s Purpose is connected with nurturing the creativity in young people. The Soul’s Purpose may involve working with children, helping others to become more creative and spontaneous (such as Martha Stewart and the woman who made the poncho in prison). Children can be connected with nurturing and acceptance – retarded, homeless, foster care. Critical people are rarely spontaneous. Creativity helps bring out the child in one’s self. Studies in personality development and the Chakras are ruled by the 5th. The 5th is associated with drama, film, theater, psycho-dramas and educational arenas in which people have fun – conferences, expos, festivals and seminars.

    Antares is a Fixed Star – it does not move or it will only move 1 degree every 72 years. So, it is always transiting its natal position.

  12. David Mastry Says:

    Hello Lynn, I( was drawn to your website for the first time this past evening as I was in need of further understanding of “Kite” patterns in natal charts. I must say that the “footnote”
    concerning, “Transformational Lunation” by Czech astrologer, Pavel Turnovsky, was very illuminating and as to what I discovered concerning the latest New Moon and India using utilizing astro-cartography is very intriguing…that is if I understood the concept correctly and the New Moon on May 28th-29th was one that is considered to be of that described.
    The map for the United States as well, by the way.
    India for the reason being that nations latest elections which are quite controversial. The United States, it seems, has been going through a non-stop transformational process for a few years at present.

    The main reason I’m writing is that by coming aware of this particular page it does seem that you are one that engages in the practice of “Esoteric Astrology” or a great deal of the techniques from that particular school of Astrology and I found that as you are also a member of the ACT Astrology forum, as I am, I don’t know if you are aware of a thread I wrote and posted in the Esoteric Astrology sub-forum in December 2010 titled “A Rectification of a technique of Esoteric practice?” I post there under the name of David Mastrogiovanni.

    If you’re not aware of it and haven’t read it I do hope that you can find the time to do so. I think it will greatly interest you.

    By the way, I love seeing Edgar Cayce given credit for what he espoused about Astrology. I was wondering if you knew that He did have a connection to the Theosophists in that in the 1930’s it was given in a reading for the purpose of determining just from where and whom all the information he gave that was other than on physical ailments and health that it was from either the Angelic or from an entity that is a member of the “White Lodge”. Dane Rudhyar also had affiliations with and, I believe, was influenced by the Theosophists.

    Wonderful website you have here. I plan on visiting often.
    Regards, Dave

  13. CATHERINE Says:

    Dear Lynn
    Thank you for imparting insights and esoteric knowledge which I must admit is a bit ‘over my head’. Though I do believe that you may be able to answer a question Ive pondered for many decades…I’d been living abroad and was living back in my native London feeling very unhappy about having to leave my boyfriend behind in another country and without much hope of being able to return (to Switzerland, where I’d been au-pairing/studying for a year). I was lying on my bed and asked ‘the powers that be’ why must we have borders/countries and their protocols separating us humans. Suddenly I was ‘taken up’ through my head and found myself surrounded by what I can only call pure love with an intensity beyond anything physically possible and in a space that seemed limitless. I was then ‘shown’ the earth and had the consciousness that this was a single, living organism that I had to care for. Next, I saw a bright light in front of me that was brighter than anything I’d every seen (I remember saying to myself ‘this is such a bright light and its not hurting my eyes!’) it light seemed to be part of an arc (thats all I could see) and the light was made up of tiny particles of knowledge and I remember saying to myself “now I know everything!” I was taken out of this shower of light and told that I was not allowed to remember anything which I accepted. Then I found myself in a place that seemed to be an empty space that was vast and I was told that there is no separation, we are all connected, and make the separation in our minds. Next I was returning to my body and was given the words ‘Alpha Omega’ and told that ‘nothings worth worrying about’. I was about 19 years old and it was a couple of years later that i read about OBE’s (back in 1970’s). The whole experience seemed to be part of a reality that makes this one we’re living seem like a dream – it was so much more real. Whatever that was I know I’m very fortunate to have had the experience and wish I knew what that light might be. There was definitely a loving being showing me these things and I believe in God, but my earliest memory as a child was an awareness of myself standing alone in the living room with the words in my head “I’m here to do His work” Ive tried but I still don’t feel I’ve fulfilled this strong belief that I’m destined for some divine service however small… I have found healing energies flow through me and seen positive results but wonder if this is my path. (I was born around 15h36 in London on 19 November 1953).

  14. Lynn Koiner Says:

    CATHERINE (10-2014): Thank you for sharing. I have had these experiences myself. They came when I REALLY needed the experience.

    On one occasion, I was in so much pain that I could not sleep. Suddenly, I lifted out of my body and fell asleep. When I woke, unfortunately, I questioned what I was experiencing and – WAM! – I fell back into my body.

  15. Jake Malakh Says:

    Thanks for this article. I love to be able to read about the planets in a more substantial manner than “saturn in the fifth denotes seriousness and lack of creativity”. So much nonsense is written. Perhaps esoteric astrology is the only proper interpretation.

    I have Saturn (Leo V) opposition Sun (Aquarius XI) and both the Leo and Aquarius placements are valid for me.

  16. Sai Grafio Says:

    The Saturnian metal (lead) is the only element that can contain deadly plutonium. Saturn is the time lord which is why scientists speak of half lives of elements. That everything comes into manifestation through time is a saturnine theme. The issue of time is one of fructification or crystallization. Once crystallization takes place, electrical propensities build (Uranus) to shatter the form. Ahriman, the high devil, would like to hold everything frozen in time in a crystalized state. Antithetical to time is infinity where the soul dwells. The Archons or time lords would like to trap us in time. At death, when confronted by the Archons one should say that you are a son of eternity and not time. Unfold the cube and you have a cross, a symbol of time. One might say that Saturn is the Matrix where each of us is an individualized “Neo” who has to overcome time by becoming the One. The one existed in the eternal before we became fractilized by time.

  17. amit Says:

    Hello Lynn,

    I have Saturn in Aquarius in 5th and Ven, mars, jup in Leo in 11th.
    Does it have any opposite influences? And how can I use it against the creative block that I experience when participating in groups or organizations?

  18. Lynn Koiner Says:

    AMIT (7-2015): Saturn in Aquarius is about rebellion and an attitude toward authority (stemming from childhood experiences — for ages, look to the difference from exactness between Saturn and Venus-Mars-Jupiter).

    Based upon these childhood experiences, you may have a attitude that blocks cooperation. Oppositions are about compromise and that Saturn does not like to do this and you over-react when you perceive something as unjust or unfair.

    This is not uncommon and the over-reacting issue is one that I have struggled with for many years. It is this struggle that makes one strong in the end.

  19. amit Says:

    That over-reacting is because of strong Mercury (i have Sun, Mercury in gemini and Virgo ascendant). Perhaps I should avoid criticism of all kinds. It seems problem itself has the solution.. Thanks for reinforcing.

  20. Lynn Koiner Says:

    AMIT: I do not think you really understood what I said or wanted to understand – what you need to change is within yourself and your conditioned reactions to others.

    Avoidance is not the answer because we cannot avoid criticism…I wish it were so as I am a Virgo and sensitive to this. Avoidance can be Gemini – I have 3 planets there and I am good at getting around things that would cause stress.
    “Avoidance where possible and, if that does not work, try something else.” I have always related to this statement.

    Over-reacting is not Mercury but Mars-Jupiter.

  21. amit Says:

    Does it mean that I should use the Gemini to react instead of the conditioned reflexes? Being aware of the reactions and changing them in that very moment..?
    Also ‘Over-reacting is not Mercury but Mars-Jupiter.’ Can u give me insight into this?

  22. Lynn Koiner Says:

    AMIT: This is really getting away from the topic of Esoteric Saturn. Gemini to listen and understand and be objective.

  23. Michelle Cremer Says:

    Thanks for this service/website! I am working to understand esoteric astrology and puzzle out my chart for myself. I have saturn retrograde in the 1st house. I’ve been searching for an esoteric read on this in your writings, but could not find any.
    I think I have it sorted out on my own in a positive/constructive way: Saturn as discipline, stern father. Still trying to reconcile my own interpretation with the extremely negative ones I read out there on the web. Is there an article on your site or can you point me in the right direction? Thank you again.

  24. Lynn Koiner Says:

    MICHELLE (5-2016): I do not know if I can give an esoteric interpretation of Saturn R in the 1st House. You can look up Saturn R in the 1st on this website – Natal Retrogrades.

    Learning to define boundaries for self and others is essential. You cannot win love by assuming responsibilities for others.

  25. David Says:

    Hi. I wrote a question about Saturn in Libra 4th house. You answered. You wrote ‘This House, with the Fixed Star, Antares (9° Sagittarius), rules the Root Chakra – our rootedness to the planet. When disturbed, our immune system is affected. The House position of Antares shows where we can feel rooted. This could be helpful for Immune System diseases.’

    I just saw that I have Antares 5th house sextile Saturn in libra 4th. I also have 5 planets in the 5th house, Pluto Venus both Libra, Mercury Uranus, Sun in Scorpio. Antares is also inconjunct Mercury. You mentioned rootedness, but When I read about Antares thus far I get some mixed information, that doesn’t sound very good. lol – Could you explain a bit more on feeling rooted… A topic that weighs heavily on me as I have no earth signs in my chart, and with Saturn in Libra 4th conjunct Jupiter Libra in the same house as well, trying to find something internally solid – security thats always there, secure, has been a lifelong issue.

  26. Lynn Koiner Says:

    DAVID (10-2016): My interpretation comes from Alice A Bailey and it is an ESOTERIC interpretation, not the traditional or classical interpretations.

    I agree – these classical interpretations from hundreds of years ago are pretty gloomy. Hundreds of years ago the times were very, very hard. Times have changed.

    Feeling rooted makes you feel like you are connected to this planet. My Antares in in the 4th and I need land and a home that is permanent, a place where I can always “hang my hat.”
    If I lived in an apartment or townhouse, I would be lost and lose my connection to the planet.

    The 5th House rules so many things – chakras, creativity, recreativity, children…

  27. ananda Says:

    Hi Lynn! I stumbled upon your post looking for information on late degrees Saturn. Your comment on late degrees Saturn and the subsequent 12th house information was so helpful, thank you!

    I am Saturn/Cap dominant with Sun, Venus, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and North Node in the 12th in Capricorn. I have Saturn at 26 degrees Cap. I think a lot about past life karma. I feel I am here in this life to heal the souls of others (help them heal themselves) and to help awaken people to their power within. Hopefully I do a good job! Saturn will let me know if not ;)

    Love & Blessings to You

 

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