The Psychological Vampire, Astrologically Viewed
ATTENTION: When a client comes to you, feeling like they will die without the person whom they are seeing, when they cannot break away, when they feel deflated and exhausted by the relationship— warn them! This is a Vampire. They must get away now!
NOTE: The inspiration for this article was taken from a lecture by Janet Kane, entitled CONFRONTING THE DARK ARCHETYPE: NEPTUNE & the MYTHIC VAMPIRE. To purchase a typed copy of the complete lecture, contact her at janetkane@verizon.net.
The archetype of the vampire has existed in all cultures throughout history. It is a popular symbol in myth, films and literature. The prevalence of the vampire myth is based on the fact that Vampires DO exist. They are men and women who live off of others psychic energy.
Vampires come into your life offering you something, sometimes it is a gift or they do you a great favor. Sometimes they are helpers. They seem more dynamic, intelligent and nicer than others. They seem bigger than life, they shine because they cast no shadow. A vampire does not own their shadow qualities. Once you let them into your life, you notice a feeling of tiredness, a sense of low self esteem, a need to replenish yourself. Nighttime is when they arrive, a classic symbol of unconsciousness. You can resist a vampire by remaining conscious.
Some people are more susceptible than others to psychic vampires. What hints can we get from our birth charts of our tendency to attract and be attracted to the vampire? Scorpios or predatorily with Pluto aspects will smell a rat immediately when they meet a Vampire but Pisces/Neptune types, the most sensitive, will be totally vulnerable. Compassion is the main characteristic of Pisces/Neptune types. So even if they recognize the Vampire, they feel that with love and compassion they can cure them. This is a BIG MISTAKE!
What house is your Neptune in? That is where you are the most vulnerable. If its in the 7th house, you would attract Vampire types as partners. If in the 5th, it could be one of your children, or in the 4th, it could be one of the parents, or both.
TYPING THE VAMPIRE:
People come into the world seeking love. When they do not find it, they seek power. When they do not develop internal power, they learn to tap into the energies/power of others. They see others as having Power but they have none – yet they feel entitled to the power of others. Entitlement issues are indicated by planets in the 8th House. Vampires do not own their Pluto. What they drain from others is not satisfying so that continually want more.
Vampires go into the helping professions because this makes it easier to get energy from willing subjects. They like to lecture to audiences but the audience often goes away feeling tired and drained. They are overly nice and extremely helpful, often as payment for taking your energies or to put themselves in a better position to syphon your energies. Vampires are extremely intelligent, “head” people and their predatorial tendencies make them highly vigilant… “seeking out the most vulnerable in the herd.” Being hyper-vigilant, they are excellent workers who do not miss anything. They are brilliant and highly psychic.
This is a type of Plutonian psychic ability, one based upon sizing up the strengths and weaknesses in others and based upon survival issues. Vampires exploit people – they did not receive love as a child so they feel the need to fill the void…but it never gets filled. They seek continual, unquestioning, unconditional love…love they cannot give themselves.
Vampires are heartless and soulless, yet they possess a great mind and a great personality. They often have bright or hypnotics eyes so it is advisable to avoid direct eye contract if you are a vulnerable type. Do not assess the person by whether or not you like them— Vampires are very likable! They feel they are giving you something in exchange for taking your energies.
Vampires are insidious in taking away your self-esteem. When around them, you feel tired, you feel flawed, insufficient and your self-esteem deflates. They attack your self-esteem with snide comments that serve to undermine your sense of self worth. You feel a need to shop or eat in order to replenish yourself. It is important at this point to give to yourself what the vampire seems to be offering in order not to be drawn into their web. If around these people for prolonged periods, your long-term health will be impaired!
Vampires do not like “Mirrors.” These people are not in touch with their dark side, they lack self-reflection and, in their need to see themselves as perfect, they avoid anyone who reflects back to them their Shadow Self. They do not want any feedback about any imperfections! They do not like or seek therapy where they could have to confront their Shadow.
They are often obsessive-compulsive. They can have a Borderline Personality Disorder… and some can even have a schizophrenic personality disorder. In many cultures, the most effective way to escape a vampire is to scatter poppy seed, mustard seeds or rice grains between one’s self and the monster. The vampire will be compelled to stop and count all of the grain, giving its intended victim sufficient time to flee the vampire or kill it.
Vampires do not know who they are. They can be narcissistic but Janet feels that not all narcissists are vampires. Anyone who is Perfect, such as “the perfect man,” is likely to be a vampire – they have no shadow. They are perfect! They never admit stupidity or failure. They cannot see this in themselves.
Vampires go through many relationships. Once people are drained out or refuse to allow themselves to be further siphoned, then move onto another victim. Not only do they go through friendships easily but their partner often looks pale and drawn. And, when someone says, “You’re my ONLY friend” or “I have never had any friends but you.” Do not take this as a compliment— they are likely vampires. Get away!
It is sometimes very difficult to get rid of a vampire, as long as they feel that you have something that they want. They prefer to end the relationship, usually when they find a new victim. They do not want to be without an energy source. They cannot survive!
Vampires are known to loiter at the crossroads. That means they can attack when we are at a major crossroads in our life. This is when we are most vulnerable.
Sometimes, we are attracted to Vampires because at least one of our parents was this way. If the mother is not a vampire, then the Vampire felt no support from the mother. If you yourself experiences an intimidating mother and adopted a “poor me” attitude— vampires love the “poor me” types!! Aloofness is the other response to an intimidating mother but this attitude would make you unavailable to the vampire.
A natal Mars-Neptune aspect can make one vulnerable to vampires. This aspect describes a parent, like a vampire, who did not want you to grow up or grow away. They did this by siphoning off your energy, your initiative to move on with your own life. They talk you out of and you learn to talk yourself out of doing on your own behalf. It is essential that you activate your Mars and learn to act on your own behalf. Vampires talk you out of this, discourage you in ways that make it seem “better” or easier not do act.
Vampires suffocate others, making people often feel that they cannot breathe. They use flattery. And, while many of us see compassion as a positive trait, the Vampire sees this as a weakness, a weakness that can benefit them in a major way.
Vampires often ask a lot of personal questions. They want to get to know you better for a reason – knowledge, to them, is power. They reveal little of the truth about themselves to others but they are always interrogating their Victim. The information they acquire will be used against you later on, to manipulate you or to tear you down. Never give the Vampire personal information. Respond to their questions with your own questions about them. Remember, the cross examination is to acquire information that will be used later on to control you. To the vampire, knowledge is power.
Since the increased use of the Internet, vampires can now attack you through chat rooms and e-Lists. They drain your energies through acquiring information and solicit your help in solving their problems… problems that never get solved. They are not seeking solutions, only your energy!
Remember, the Vampire is never concerned about your life, only what they can take from you. The vampire is only concerned with their personal survival.
HOW TO FRUSTRATE A VAMPIRE:
- Develop healthy boundaries for yourself.
- Never give them personal information – respond to their questions with your own questions.
- Keep yourself focused upon your own positive creativity. “Idle hands are the vampires workshop.”
- Never engage with these people. Remain aloof.
- “Cut off their head” – since they live in their heads, having no heart connection, this is the source of their power. Example: Questioning their intelligence
- Stay conscious! These people are stopped in their tracks by the Light of Consciousness. Show them what they are. Respond that you are feeling drained by them.
- Go for the heart! Example: When you feel drained by a person, a class or a speaker, just get up and walk away. This is staying conscious.
Vampires can be:
- the narcissistic, self-absorbed victim
- the charismatic, high-energy individual
- the argumentative bully who absorbed energy through initiating discord
- the controlling salesperson who is more interested in taking your energy than really selling anything
- those who enter our psyches by instilling fears, doubts and attempts to alienate us from our friends and family, people whom we would normally trust
- “The World Is About To End” speakers who excite our fears to absorb our energies
- “The Great Love” who manipulates our emotions to siphon off your energies.
CHART EXAMPLES:
These charts are from my personal collection of Vampires. These charts are for people in Europe, not the United States; however, for purposes of confidentiality, I am not reproducing the charts that I have used. I will only describe the placements.
DESCRIPTION 1: Leo Asc conjunct Transpluto; Saturn in Pisces in the 8th opposing Mars-Uranus-Pluto in Virgo and Neptune in the 4th House Retrograde 135° Sun. Neptune and Moon are the most aspected planets in the chart.
Chart #1 is that of a woman who is well known among her friends to be a Vampire. When I met her, I got tired very quickly. I was doing tarot card readings for my friends in Europe and, after reading for this woman, I had to stop. I was exhausted. What is curious about this woman is that you can tell her to stop taking your energies and she will stop. You can even do this by telepathy— and she will stop.
Her Sun is weakly aspected, only a conjunction to Venus. There is a theory that Vampires are lacking in Prana, ruled by the Sun, and they take this energy from their victims.
Vampires often have a parent who is a vampire. Neptune and all hard Neptune aspects can denote a parent who did not want the child to grow up or go away, sabotaging and siphoning off their energies. Minor aspects can be unconscious and Mercury is inconjunct Neptune and the Sun is sesquiquadrate Neptune. Neptune in the 4th is said to produce “skeletons in the closet.” Her father is a “dark” celebrity in Europe and her mother committed suicide.
Astrologer, Janet Kane, has observed that people who had Vampire parents have Neptune afflicting their natal Sun-Moon-Mercury-Venus. I have personally observed that such aspects cause a lack of boundaries (often at the etheric level; leaks in the etheric web) where a parent is concerned.
The 8th House and Scorpio energies can signify a Vampire but, be assured, not all 8th House/Scorpio people are Vampires. It is the type who have strong entitlement issues as a result of the 8th House tendencies who can be Vampires. Often raised around people who had more than they did, they feel that they are entitled to the energy and resources of others.
DESCRIPTION 2: Saturn Retrograde in Pisces on Asc; stellium in 7th, including Mars-Neptune conjunction; Sun weakly aspected but square Pluto.
Chart #2 is an example of a Vampire who changed! For many years, everyone who knew him were very aware of his strong energy-draining tendencies. People were often afraid to see him because he drained their energies so much. But, something happened when the transiting Uranus crossed his ASC. He suddenly became “wise,” content and much more independent. He is no longer jealous of others— and he is no longer a Vampire! So, from this example, the Vampire can change and I am told that he changed a lot!
The significant aspects that indicate boundary issues are Mars-Neptune in a 7th House stellium (co-dependent issues) and Saturn in Pisces Retrograde in the 1st. Being Retrograde and in Pisces always presents boundary distortion— trouble defining boundaries for self as well as others.
DESCRIPTION 3: Venus-Jupiter in Scorpio on Asc (can be narcissistic); Sun/Mars-Neptune square; Moon in Pisces Apex of YOD.
Chart #3 is a man who, when I met him, I felt so tired. I would have dreams of a tire slowly losing its air. I observed that I would start to eat when around him as a way of establishing a defense against his draining energies. Like the true Vampire, he presents himself as helpful, charming and willing to do anything for you… as long as he can take your energies.
I feel that the key signature in his chart the Moon in Pisces in the 4th as Apex of a Yod with Neptune and Pluto. He grew up with a powerful mother figure who was probably the Vampire in his life. She made him the “little man” in her life, coddling him and taking his energy… something that he resented all his life but he felt powerless to get away from her. He does not own his Pluto and the strong Neptune aspects indicate boundary issues.
He is always seeking the company of powerful, older women to support him financially and energetically. Typical of Uranus in the 7th, his relationships never last long but, typical of the Vampire, he does not leave one victim until he finds another victim. He may have an intimate relationship but, at the same time, have several telephone or internet relationships. Janet Kane says that the Vampire can work very successfully via the Internet.
I am told that, when he finds a new victim with fresh energy, he is on a “high” like a addict who has just taken heroin. When the source begins to tire and dry up, he no longer feels this high and he must begin seeking another victim.
DESCRIPTION 4: Sun in Capricorn square Neptune in 8th; stellium in 7th; Sun strongly aspected (important).
Chart #4 is not a Vampire but her mother was a Vampire and she attracts Vampires. My Vampire charts come from this woman. Her chart is not typical of the person who is attracted to Vampires and whose parent was a Vampire. As I have stated earlier, Janet has observed friends with Neptune square Mercury, Neptune conjunct Venus, Neptune square Sun and Neptune square Moon have the Vampire parent and they themselves are attracted to Vampires…or, more correctly, Vampires are attracted to them because they do not have the etheric boundary and protection against such life-draining individuals.
My friend does have a wide Neptune square Sun aspect and her mother sabotaged her energies so that she would not grow up or grow away. But, all who know her would say that she is very Plutonian. While she resented taking care of her Vampire mother, there was always an unhealthy bond, until the mother died. Yet, she is always intrigued by Vampires. She can identify them quickly and she knows exactly how to handle them. I have never met anyone with such a fascination with Vampires.
I suggest that those interested in the topic read the book, ENERGY VAMPIRES: A Practical Guide for Psychic Self-Protection by Dorothy Harbour.

Jun 26, 12:30 PM
I think you can get leaders/celebrities who are vampires, feeding off large sections of the population. Eva Peron, who had a wide Sun-Neptune square was like this, allowing herself to be seen as the Redeemer, while the people’s worship of her was simply a measure of their desperation. Gurus can be vampires par excellence, feeding off their disempowered disciples. I think when people project stuff onto you, and you start to believe it, then you become a vampire. And I’ve noticed that Pisces/Neptune is often prominent. Margaret Thatcher has a Moon-Neptune-MC conjunction, and became extremely dominant, and seemed to shrivel and age when she lost power.
Jun 27, 12:09 AM
Lynn – Have you noticed a connection between Vampire aspects in your charts and tendancies of Vampires toward religious fundamentalism or extreme submersion in organized religion as well as a drive to convert or draw others to their religion?
Jun 27, 06:25 PM
Thank you for writing. I am believe that Peron might be a Vampire. They do feed on the energy of large groups. They can appear as grear charismatic orators….only because they can draw on the energy of their audience. Yes, Robin, I believe that any extreme believe system can be the vehicle for Vampires. When believers get ensnared,
it is very difficult for them to get away. With a Vampire, you feel that you will die without them. It is really the Vampire who cannot survive without a host.
Aug 27, 10:43 AM
My friend, Barbara, sent me this post about other forms of toxic relationships and how to spot them
How to Protect Your Health Against Toxic Behavior
http://www.drbenkim.com/toxic-people-behavior.html
By Dr. Ben Kim on August 13, 2007 Personal Observations
How to Identify Human Toxicity
Generally speaking, I think it’s safe to say that a person is toxic to your health if his or her
behavior makes you feel bad on a regular basis. Clearly, there are exceptions to this guideline. For
example, if a close friend or family member shares a concern about your behavior with a spirit of
wanting to improve your relationship, you may feel bad and your health may take a temporary hit, but
it doesn’t make sense to label such friends or family members as being toxic.
What follows are specific patterns of behavior that I believe fall into the “toxic-to-your-health”
category:
1. Attempting to intimidate you by yelling or becoming violent in any manner (slamming a door is
violence).
2. Consistently talking down at you, sending the message that he or she is just plain better than
you.
3. Regularly telling you what he or she thinks is wrong with you.
4. Slandering others behind their backs i.e. trying to engage you in gossip that is hurtful to
others.
5. Spending the bulk of your conversations complaining about his or her life and others.
6. Discouraging you from pursuing your interests and dreams.
7. Attempting to take advantage of your kindness and resources, and trying to make you feel guilty
if you don’t do what he or she wants.
How to Deal With Toxic People and Behavior
So how do you preserve your health after you have identified a person as being toxic to your health?
The answer depends on the role that the toxic person plays in your life. Although it is virtually
impossible to categorize all such people into neat columns, I tend to classify them into one of the
following groups:
Group 1: H&G (Hi and Good Bye)
Examples of people who belong in this category:
Unkind customer service representatives People who exhibit road rage Strangers on the streetHow to protect your health against such people:
1. First, think carefully about your own behavior to see if you may have done or said something to
cause the other party’s behavior.
2. If you can identify something that you did that likely offended the other party, if possible,
offer a sincere apology. If he or she accepts your apology, things work out well for both parties.
If your apology is not accepted, you can at least walk away with some level of peace of mind,
knowing that you owned up to your behavior.
3. If you cannot think of a single thing that you did that could have offended the other party,
give him or her a silent “H&G” and walk away. Confronting the other party about unkind behavior is
not likely to be fruitful. Since you don’t have to co-exist on a regular basis, you can take the
mindset of “fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.” In other words, the other
party’s unkind behavior — unexpected by you — is on him or her; he or she will reap natural
consequences in due time.
Group 2: No real need to be close, but contact is frequent due to life circumstances
Examples of people who belong in this category:
Fellow students Co-workers Neighbors Members of groups that you regularly meet with (church, book club, sports club, etc.)How to protect your health against such people:
1. As before, start by examining your own behavior to see if you can come up with a reasonable
cause for the other party’s unacceptable behavior. If you cannot come up with a reason for the other
party’s behavior, find someone who you can trust to be as objective and honest as possible, and
explain the conflict to him or her as thoroughly and accurately as possible. Ask for honest feedback
on how you might have triggered the other party’s behavior.
2. If appropriate, apologize for your behavior. If you and your advisor have thought long and hard
about the conflict and cannot identify anything that you need to apologize for, work on developing
compassion for the other party.
Most can agree that people are not born to be mean-spirited and toxic to others. People can become
mean-spirited and toxic to others for varying periods of time if they encounter enough hurt,
disappointment, and/or anger in their own journeys. Maybe the other party is jealous of you and
consumed by his or her own failures. Maybe he or she is just going through a really rough time due
to a loss in the family. Maybe he or she has never truly felt cared about by another person. Maybe
the other party has been treated so poorly by family members that sensitivity has been numbed and he
or she has no idea that you feel like you have been mistreated. The idea is to generate enough
compassion for the other party to overpower or at least quell your hurt feelings.
This doesn’t mean that you need to be a martyr or a doormat and go asking for another two tight
slaps to your other cheek. Developing some compassion for the other party’s behavior is meant to
prevent said behavior from causing you to stew and stay emotionally unbalanced for a long time after
the actual moment of conflict. And if the other party has or develops the courage to apologize to
you, having some pre-made compassion available in your heart improves your chances of offering
genuine forgiveness and experiencing that much more emotional harmony.
3. After you have worked on developing compassion for the other person’s circumstances, if you
haven’t received an apology, be kind, but don’t push for a make-up session. An important part of
experiencing emotional balance is learning to teach others that you expect to be treated with
kindness and respect. To seek out a make-up session when you have done nothing wrong and the other
party has not mustered up the courage to apologize is to teach him or her that you can be walked on.
Group 3: Ideal to be close
Examples of people who belong in this category:
Immediate family members Relatives Friends that you have good reason to respectHow to protect your health against such people:
1. Go through the first two steps outlined above; try to figure out if you did something wrong, and
apologize if you can think of something.
2. While it’s important that you teach family members and close friends how you expect to be
treated, in some cases, it may be necessary for you to seek out a make-up session even if the other
party has not apologized for his or her behavior.
For example, if it was your spouse who mistreated you, and he or she has not owned up to the
mistreatment, if you know from experience that he or she is not likely to initiate a conversation
that can lead to healing, and a top priority for you is to have your children grow up in a mostly
peaceful and love-filled environment, it may be best for you to reach out first. By reaching out
first in such a scenario, the hope is that you inspire your partner to edge closer to taking more
responsibility for his or her actions during the next conflict. Clearly, this proactive and almost
martyr-like approach to increase understanding and intimacy is most appropriate in situations where
you are deeply committed to the long term relationship that you have with the other party.
If you are currently struggling in your relationship with someone who belongs in this category, I
Using Honesty to Build a Good Relationship http://drbenkim.com/node/1 Understanding Your Partner’s Primary Love Language http://drbenkim.com/articles-lovelanguage.html How to Forgive Someone Who Has Hurt You http://drbenkim.com/blog/2006/07/how-to-forgive-someone-who-has-hurt.htmlhope that you find one or more of the following articles to be helpful:
Aug 27, 10:47 AM
My friend, Lorraine, sent this information on other toxic relationships, often people with lots of Cardinal afflictions in their charts. This concept of the Crazy Makers comes from the book, THE ARTIST’S WAY
CRAZY-MAKERS:
Ms. Cameron details the various ways in which we block or sabotage our creativity by the company we keep and in the friends and people we choose to associate with. One such way in which creatives block their creativity is to involve their self with what she calls “Crazymakers”. After reading this section, I felt that stabbing sensation in the pit of my stomach which clicked a resounding truth. I’ve experienced more than my share of crazymakers in my life!
1. Crazymakers, she states can be found in almost any setting. The crazymaking dynamic is grounded in power and any group of people can function as an energy system to be exploited and drained. Nuclear families are infamous crazymakers. The example she provides is that of the “destructive matriarch who devoted energies to destroying the creativity of her children. Always choosing critical moments for her sabotage, she plants her bombs to explode just as her children approach success.”
To provide some examples, Cameron lists the ways Crazymakers manifest their craziness in your life:
1. Crazymakers break deals and destroy schedules. They either show up early when you are pressed for time or show up late while dinner burns in the oven.
2. Crazymakers expect special treatment. They display a variety of ailments and attention seeking histrionics precisely during your busiest part of the day, during your final exam or any known deadline.
3. Crazymakers discount your reality. They violate your needs and do not respect your boundaries and they have no desire to comply with your wishes.
4. Crazymakers spend your time and money. They meet you for lunch then tell you when the bill arrives they forgot to bring enough money. They borrow personal items from you and return it late or don’t’ return them at all.
5. Crazymakers triangulate those they deal with. They thrive on your energy and set people against each other. The main point is that it’s a completely unnecessary distraction of something not even remotely important.
6. Crazymakers are expert blamers. It’s never their fault and they never take responsibility for their actions.
7. Crazymakers create drama. They are devoted to their own agenda and impose those agendas on others.
8. Crazymakers hate schedules except their own. Time is their primary tool of abuse. If you have a deadline, they will find a way to invade your space, spring dramas, questions, requests on you at the last minute to redirect your focus onto them.
9. Crazymakers hate order. They thrive on chaos and are addicted to it and think nothing of creating and recreating it in your own life.
10. Crazymakers deny they are crazymakers. They think that you are the crazy one. The question Cameron poses is if Crazymakers are so destructive then why are you involved with one?? To be involved with a Crazymaker is self destructive and blocks your own inherent creativity. “If you’re involved in a tortured tango with a Crazymaker, stop dancing to his or her tune.”! Thank you Julia Cameron for relaying an important message and to an online acquaintance named Steve for the book recommendation. The “message” arrived at a most synchronous moment.
Nov 24, 02:54 AM
What an amazingly insightful article!
Jan 25, 07:57 PM
Great information! Great advice!
We have psychic-vampires, here, in San Francisco California. They often like to make the most of the captive audience on the public bus.
We have “King George’s” disease vampires here, as well. One time I saw a “slave” on a chain, of a very pale woman wearing a dramatic cape and she had heavy zinc-oxide on her skin. I thought: who is the slave?
[“King George’s” disease, porphyria, is a problem of being related to yourself on both sides of your family. This is, from marrying your cousins, too much.]
Also San Francisco has “sex-addicts” 12-step meetings – for some, a place to find victims.
A young person here who wears black said, “I left my soul in San Francisco”. So true.
I am convinced the root of the problem is ego-centric-ism.
Apr 3, 07:10 PM
I have Neptune in my 2nd house, and I just encountered a crazymaker who refused to pay me for services I performed for him. He kept me on the hook for a while. But I don’t ever let it go on for too long. I know better than to try to defend myself against an unreasonable person. And I just let it go. I am blessed in that most of the people I work with are wonderful. It’s not often that I work with a crazymaker. On the internet, I encounter them all the time. In my business… almost never.
Maybe it’s the circles I circulate in, but I think one of the hallmarks of a lot of the psyvamps I have met is that they use psychobabble as their weapon. They accuse you of projection, of “anger problems,” of not taking responsibility for your issues. They are right and something is wrong with you.
Would you agree, Lynn?
Apr 6, 06:47 PM
Neptune in Relationships: For Molly
Neptune is both a blessing and a curse. Neptune tolerates so many things in a relationship that it allows less-than-perfect relationships to go on for years in a state of happiness and satisfaction. But, it can tolerate the intolerable just as well.
Neptune is in my 2nd and strongly aspected to many planets in my chart. Most relationship issues are just “not that bad” for me. I can get along with most people, as long as they are not aggressive or hostile. I have been in a relationship with a man for 16 years with whom I have little in common. BUT, he has a good heart and he has a wonderful family that love me dearly. Not having much of a family myself. He gives me a lot of freedom because he needs freedom to play golf. I feel that life is easier because of my Neptune tolerance.
However, when I overlook problems in a relationship (personal and professional), this is when I get into trouble. Now, I agree with you on this point – I almost never have problems collecting money from clients. It is rare in my 40 years of practice that I have received a bad check or a non-payment. We are very lucky in this respect.
I have observed that, with Neptune in the 2nd, our parents did not show us how to do things. My mother would put me on a budget and my grandmother would slip me a $20. When I would ask my mother (or my father) to show me how to make something, they would just do it for me. Even now, my dad is almost 90 years old. When I asked him to show me how to use the weed wacker, he just went ahead and wacked the weeds himself. I still do not know how to use the darned thing.
What I know I have taught myself. But, what I did NOT learn is the true value of my efforts. I give more of my time to others than I should but it is never so bad. And, I enjoy giving readings. Molly, you also have a Beginning Saturn and Saturn at very early degrees also indicates that parents, more likely the father, did not teach you about responsibility. You have to learn yourself. Some people with an early Saturn learned very early on how to be responsible but others may have been coddled by the mother so that they never really learned an efficient use of Saturn.
Last week I received an e-mail from a woman who asked for a reading, saying that she needed direction, her Soul’s Purpose and an analysis of the transits and progressions in her chart. She said that she had 10 years of experience with astrology but she needed an objective perspective of her chart. Then (she must have had marketing experience) she said that, because she was such an experienced astrologer, that it would only be fair if I charged much less for her…”.after all, it would only be fair.” And, she was “sure that we could work together on this.” Fair to whom!!? Work TOGETHER…what together? I would doing all of the work…for her.
This is a very manipulative personality. Her e-mail showed that she was trained in verbal manipulation. So, I said that I would be out of town and unable to help her. That is, I gave her the “bum’s rush.” If I had been drawn into her discussion, I know that she would have projected onto me about how I was unfair and unreasonable. I just cut them off and I no longer get drawn into this. Have I been cheated before? Of course – but, like yourself, it is rare. I still get very upset when it happens. I was writing for DC-ONE magazine and, while they would sometimes get behind in their payment, they were very good about paying and inviting me to major events and premiers in the Washington Area. Then, under new management, when I asked about the $500 that they owed me, they said, “Do you have a contract with us? (No!) Well, let me get back to you…” That was the last I heard from these people and the magazine is no longer in publication.
I knew all along that this was going to happen. They did not respond to my e-mails about payment but I continued to send in my column because I would also send this column out to friends and clients (now the monthly Astro-Column) – it was not so bad. The handwriting was on the wall but I tolerated, hoped for the best and continued to send in my column….until I too got the “bum’s rush.” This occurred under a Neptune transit and I was very hurt. I should not have been hurt because it was obvious what was going to happen. In some ways, I can only blame myself for tolerating and allowing myself to work for so long without payment.
Neptune dissolves what no longer works, what we have outgrown and what needs to end. I needed to stop working for this magazine. I never got business from it. Once it ended, I was able to write the column in my own style, not to suit the magazine. It can be long or short and I can say what I want. The “betrayal” was a good thing. It was the only way I would allow myself to let go.
Molly, the transiting Neptune has been hitting your professional Houses (7 and 10) very strongly. A betrayal was bound to happen. There are patterns in business that you need to change and Neptune will make this very clear in the end. But, having bad Neptune transits does not mean that you will suffer losses. I had a client years ago – Neptune was in Sagittarius in the 7th House squaring his Pisces Stellium in the 10th House. I told him that he would get a client who could make or break him. He had to follow very strict Saturnian rules under Neptune.
As an accountant, the new client wanted a major 1-year audit of his company. My client had to hire a large staff to accomplish this. He told the client (under my instruction) that, if the payment did not arrive on Friday, no one would show up on Monday. Only twice during the year did payment not arrive on Friday but, by Sunday, a courier came to his office with the money! As a result of his strict discipline, he made so much money that he decided to retire from accounting and pursue his dream career in body building. If they had not paid him in a timely manner, he would have gone bankrupt!
I have talked with other friends with Neptune in the 2nd House and we all concur that our internal values get pretty murky at times. Neptune tolerates long after others would have dumped the client. “Neptune can make one not see financial situations clearly – sometimes unable to see that the client is a problem.” The behavior is always there but Neptune does not want to see it. You have to ask yourself, “When did I realize that he was crazy?” … that is when you should have drawn the line.
You have a Cardinal T-Square with Jupiter as the Apex planet. Jupiter has problems with moderation and proportion. The Cardinals are attracted to Crises and Crazy-Makers (strong Cardinal positions themselves). There is a health issue that seems to parallel with these “parasites” – internal parasites. Try Country Life’s Para-Forces or another parasite formula. A doctor friend told me that, when she started taking the Internal Parasite formula, the external, 2-legged types disappeared from her life.
May 15, 09:11 AM
FROM JENNIFER:
I just read the posting on psychic vampires – what I want to know is how do they know ?
I have met several of them and, at each time, I was at a crossroads and getting involved with them would have meant that I would have stayed put.
Do I give off some sort of vibrational energy that they pick up on ?
I think that, when you are being drained, you keep a situation going for them not you. One of the best vampires that I know is always offering me stuff — a job, a place to stay, and yet the conversation always remains the same, its always someone else. They are often very charming and attractive too.
FROM LYNN:
You have very accurately described the VAMPIRE personality. The Vampire operates in a “survival” mode and, like the spider that senses the tug on its web, they are very much attuned to the vulnerability of some PREY. They offer you “stuff” so that they will not lose their “energetic” host. Yes, it is always about THEM.
VAMPIRES were disempowered by a parent — the Vampire Parent — and they learned to take energy from others instead of empowering themselves.
Both Vampires and Hosts had a Vampire Parent. With a Host (such as yourself), they often lack boundaries and a strong Pluto to fend off the Vampire.
Vampires are very Plutonian — they learned that survival depended upon their ability to pick up subtle cues regarding others (who will help them, what these people need, where they are vulnerable).
To empower yourself energetically, wear deep regal red and listen to Wagner’s Greatest Hits. This music is very empowering…such as The Entrance of the gods into Valhalla.
Good luck and thank you for your excellent question…Lynn
Jul 10, 02:41 PM
Hi Lynn,
One other question has been rolling around my brain… do you make a distinction between a “psychic vampire” and a garden variety well meaning but needy person with a negative outlook who drains you? Or is it the same thing?
Jul 10, 03:22 PM
Molly, you have just asked an excellent question and one that I was discussing with Janet Kane this week.
I met a woman recently who is the draining type but NOT a vampire. She is mostly Mutables with Neptune in a Libra Stellium. Being with her, I felt that she was like a tick sucking the life force from my body. She is needy with very low self-esteem and very much the Poor Me Sun in Pisces.
She is exactly as you described — the garden variety, well meaning but needy person with a negative outlook who drains you. But, she is definitely NOT a vampire….she just feels like one.
Janet said that Vampires would not be the Mutables and Vampires would have a very afflicted Pluto.
Vampires are more manipulative and they offer you something in return so that they can syphon off your energies.
Vampires feel energized and invigorated by the energy that they “steal” from you.
But, there is a big different between the Needy Person and the Vampire — they just feel the same to be around.
Jul 11, 10:18 AM
ok thank you. I have examples of both types in my past, and the charts definitely fit. I feel like I understand the difference much better now.