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Neptune transits

There are 3 issues symbolized by Neptune that I will address using the examples submitted by readers. These issues are: 1) DISSOLUTION OF BOUNDARIES, 2) STRANGE ILLNESSES, 3) BETRAYAL, DISAPPOINTMENT or DECEPTION.

Dissolution of Boundaries

Neptune dissolves our psychological and physiological boundaries through the vehicle of confusion and ambivalence which allows us to float beyond our perceived limitations. A friend said that, when Neptune crossed her Scorpio Ascendant in the 1950s, the communist government made the decision to give Hungarians passports for the first time. By some miracle, she obtained a passport and a visa that allowed her to move to England. Because it was a frightening and heroic adventure, she could not imagine doing this at any other time in her life. Although she spoke no English, she found employment with a family who greatly abused her and her ignorance of the language. They paid her less than originally promised and they found excuses to hold back even that small amount. This was also a deception/betrayal situation that always comes under “hard” aspects1 to Neptune. Amazingly, she was able to float into another job. One day she was in the park crying. Someone approached her and offered her a good job. England is now her home. She had to be in England— Neptune, via deception— took her there. Her life has been very different from the one that she would have lived if she had remained in Hungary.

Strange Illnesses

I have observed that there are general health vulnerabilities that always accompany the Neptune transit. These are:

  1. Low blood calcium. In women, this can cause menstrual cramping and osteoporosis
  2. Low blood potassium. This is a major problem! The symptoms can easily be mistaken for other ailments— joint pain, especially in the arms and the back of the neck/shoulder area, muscle spasms and cramps, fatigue and weakness in the muscles, heart fibrillations. While liquid “K-Plus” is a powerful source of potassium-magnesium, it is very expensive ($18). Sundown sells a very inexpensive supplement called Fortified or Multi-Source Potassium for $3,
  3. Allergies and allergic reactions to drugs and chemicals and foods,
  4. Lowered metabolism and difficulty metabolizing sugars,
  5. High blood acidity which leaves you vulnerable to colds and flu. Alkalizing the system is helpful.
  6. Hormonal imbalances regardless of age,
  7. Adrenal depletion and endocrine problems (have your doctor conduct an all-day saliva test),
  8. Many complained of flabbiness and poor muscle tone, especially in the area of the body ruled by the sign being afflicted by Neptune.
  9. Always, the immune system is lowered. In extreme cases, this can lead to degenerative diseases. If the individual is HIV positive, strong Neptune transits can trigger full blown AIDS. Olive Leaf, Wild Oregano and Peptides help the immune system. Do ask your doctor if these would interfere with any other medications that you are taking!

On April 3, 1997, under a Neptune transit, a friend developed fibromyalgia, a very common and painful ailment that has no cure or no known cause. It is becoming so common that support groups are available —(when people feel disconnected, group involvement helps.

Most health issues are vague and undefined. Often, when the transit ends, so does the undefined health issue. Always check with your doctor to make sure that it is nothing serious but, if not, it is just the Neptune transit.

Betrayal-Disappointment-Deception

Regardless of the sign that Neptune is transiting, over the years, I have always observed this pattern of betrayal-disappointment-deception. A client with Neptune squaring his Sun asked about investing $10,000 with some friends. The entire enterprise that he described sounded highly suspicious but, under Neptune, you only see what you want to see and none of the complications— whether this is a relationship, a financial situation or a business enterprise. This man also gave me a bad check! A woman with Neptune contra-parallel her 6th House Saturn believed that her supervisor was going to promote her as promised. She felt very betrayed when the promotion went to someone else. So many times, a long term friendship ends. You are changing energetically with the Neptune transit but you do not see how this is impacting the people close to you. It just seems impossible to really see what is going on with these relationships. The delusion is based upon your expecting them to be what you want them to be…and they are not!

In 1993, I could not see the anger in those around me as I was losing weight and found a new relationship. I just thought that I was doing something wrong but I had no idea what it was. The ambivalence of Neptune allowed me to tolerate the intolerable. In various situations, I felt either excluded or abandoned. In another situation, I had totally misjudged another’s character yet this person had clearly stated her “values” at the beginning of my Neptune transit. At the time, I just could not believe someone would think that way. For me, this has probably been one of the most painful aspects of Neptune transits.

The benefit of the deception— it dissolves your boundaries, your connection to a person or situation, freeing to move on in your life. Maintain ETHICS! Remember, Neptune dissolves all that is not real in our lives – just let it go! Astrologer Pat Geisler advises: Make NO choices based on “new” ethics, but only on the standards you had used all your life.

“Follow the routines you had created for yourself, accept the responsibilities that are yours without whining about it and just keep on plugging. In other words, the only way through the transit was one step at a time, refusing to veer off the chosen path and ignoring any siren songs along the way. So, I made a decision to trust that I had tried to make a good decision and not to think about it any more but to just do the job in front of me one day at a time. It really helped me get through those days.”

Through a disappointment, we can actually go beyond our boundaries, let go of restricting loyalties. When Neptune opposed Pluto in my chart, I had been writing a Sun-sign column for DC-ONE magazine. When they owed me over $500, they said that I did not have a contract with them so…no money! I felt so betrayed but this allowed me to write my column the way that I wanted to write it. It was the best thing that ever happened.

Remember, that any betrayal or disappointment is assisting us to let go and move forward in our lives— to go beyond our boundaries. There is always a specific Spirit Guide in our lives at the time of a major Neptune transit. We are not alone!

Remedies for the Neptune Transit

I feel that the Bach Remedy, CLEMATIS, saved my life in 1997. That summer I became so disconnected that I could have easily lost my grip on reality. It takes about 4 days for the effects to kick in but Clematis grounded me and it has allowed me to feel very normal. Everyone who has started to use this remedy states that they do not feel anything… until they stop taking it. Put some under your tongue every morning. Not every Neptune transit operates this way, especially if you are having Uranus or Pluto transits at the same time.

CLEMATIS (Bach): Mechthild Scheffer recommends Clematis for people “who are wanderers between the worlds. Reality does not hold much attraction for them and, whenever possible, they will withdraw from the painful present.” They manifest symptoms: Being lost in thought, absent-minded and inattentive, appears slightly confused, little reaction to events, good or bad, a floating sensation, poor memory, poor body image causing the individual to bump into things, visual or hearing problems. These people need more light and sun and yoga assists them in strengthening the etheric body.

I have personally observed that, during a Neptune transit, the etheric web thins so there is a very tenuous veil between the physical world and the astral world. Disconnectedness can be frightening, even when you understand what is going on. Clematis gently pulls one back into the physical and simply feel normal again.

NOTE: All Neptune transits can stress the adrenals. In the 1990s, a Bethesda,Maryland, doctor recommended a product by Enzymatic Therapy called RAW ADRENAL. His recommendation is to take 2 pills when you first get up and then 2 more around 11am. This is very helpful for low body temperature and allergies. I am now recommending Solaray’s ADRENAL CAPS.

There is a new book, ADRENAL FATIGUE, by James Wilson, MD. This book discusses the latest discoveries in adrenal exhaustion. The Bethesda doctor is now recommending the supplements mentioned in this book. There is another book that has been around since the 1980s on Hypothyroidism by Brota Barnes MD. This often occurs as we get older and it is indicated by low body temperature called Wilson’s Syndrome. The basic treatment for this is Armour Thyroid.

After contracting the Epstein-Barr Virus, I developed Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. My dentist gave me 30 mgs of Armour (a natural thyroid but it may not be strong enough for extreme cases). Within 3 days, my energy level soared and it gave a boost to my immune system. The blood test for the thyroid is a waste of time. Even a woman who had her thyroid removed many years earlier showed normal T levels. The 4-times-a-day Saliva Test is the best test at this time.

ADDENDUM UPDATEPERSONAL EXPERIENCES

Neptune transiting Capricorn, an Earth sign, seemed to be the most disorienting for me personally. Now that Neptune is in Aquarius, I have not personally experienced the need to use Clematis but I know others who have found it immensely helpful. However, change through dissolving what no longer works is still the prominent feature of a strong Neptune transit.

In 2003, when Neptune in the 6th opposed Pluto in the 12th House, I had been writing a column for a upscale magazine. In writing my monthly e-column, my interpretation was tailored to the requirements of the editor. During this time, there was a change in management and, because I did not have a contract, they refused to pay me several hundred dollars. I felt so betrayed but I knew, typical of Neptune, that this was for the best. Now I could change my column and write it exactly as I wished. I was no longer limited by the editor of this magazine. This turned out to be a great boon to my column. I could be intuitive, as well as technical. The column was picked up by an Italian website. I knew that I had outgrown this magazine. My personal energies were shifting and expanding. They could no longer be contained by the magazine’s limited format.

In 2007-2008, Neptune is opposing my 12th House Mercury. I am aware that my hearing is worse but this forces me to really listen to what others are saying. Mercury in the 12th can easily tune out of a conversation that is not stimulating. I need to listen better!

I worried about losing friendships but this has not happened. I have lost them but in a very different way— retiring and moving away! Several important people in my life moved away and my beloved dentist retired. Initially, I feel lost without them yet I know that Neptune always works to our long-term benefit. With a friend moving to Arizona, this will allow me to lecture for the astrology groups there and visit my friend. We lost out ARE meeting place when she moved. I thought that this would be the end of our group. With the shift in the group’s energy, a lot of people are joining our group and we have 2 good locations to meet. This shift allowed the group to grow and expand!

With regard to retirement, I have observed that, when a client is at retirement age, strong Neptune transits can trigger their retirement. Neptune tunes out and no longer wants to work so hard. They long for something else in their life.

1 NOTE: I consider the hard aspects to be the Conjunction, Square, Opposition, Parallel and Contra-Parallel. The minor afflictions such as the 45, 135 and 150 degree aspects indicate deceptive situations that occur AROUND you but not involving you directly. With the minor afflictions, it is essential that you do not get involved with any situation that is not clear or directly involving yourself— or it will become a hard aspect!

EMPATH ENERGY & NEPTUNE:

From Elisabeth Fitzhugh…several similar articles are on the Medical Forum

…on Empath Energy – Chiron and Neptune/Pisces energy

The Empath – those who have at the core of their nature the innate ability to receive energy, information, awareness from others. If you recognize this within yourself, it is also time for you to become conscious of this attribute. The difference between an Empath and a Channel is that the channel most often is aware that they are receptive, that energy flows through “channels”, and usually the channel recognizes a distinction between the channel and the energy being channeled or received.

The Empath does not receive through channels in the same way. Rather, the Empath expands their own nature like a sponge; fills its own nature with what is received. The Empath essentially absorbs into itself all the fluid energy, all the contact, all the content of interaction with others. The difficulty, of course, is that there is then a confusion of what is in the original ‘sponge’ and that which is filling it. ‘Do I feel this way within myself or have I absorbed this from another?’

Further, the difficulty and challenge for the Empath, is that most Empaths are not aware of the intensity or fullness or their receptive nature until certain things happen that interfere with and often endanger the present self. Then they say things as, “I didn’t feel like myself” or others say to them, “You’re not acting like yourself”, etc. Hints come into the conscious mind that something other than the self is interacting in their lives. Of course, there is a whole psychological way of looking at this, but we’re going to put that aside and stay in the metaphysical and the spiritual view.

In societies of Empaths, which do not exist per se at this time, there are cultural morals and mores that develop around the Empathic nature that help balance life with such receptive energy. More importantly, in an Empathic society individuals are taught how to work with the energy; learning that received energy is then transmuted, changed, translated. The ability to change the energy, which is part-conscious, part-energetic, and can be initiated by conscious will and thought. This ability to recognize and change energy is often what is NOT understood by the Empaths in this reality.

In this culture, the abilities of the Empath often are reflected in how they deal with people psychologically and emotionally and often literally in their careers as well; people who can absorb and change energy. Empaths may serve as translators. In a job, you may take one set of information and make a translation for another group. You try to help those in two different situations find the same language, to come to an understanding. Empaths can change the energy; helping others to let go of one feeling and allowing in another – transmutation. They can step down energy that is too intense for someone else by finding another way of speaking, making a more subtle thing of it; giving the principle without all the energy. Transducing -stepping down the energy.

It is vital that when you come to recognize yourself as an Empath, and then let yourselves fully understand this element of your being. It is an element which is akin to having a health condition. Like the diabetic who must watch certain dietary things, who must manage medication in a very concentrated and focused manner, if one goes off balance with these things, one can throw the Self into crisis.

We feel, it is very vital for each of you to begin very consciously addressing the energetic flow in your lives. You learn to work with the Empath energy by first, recognizing it and then consciously addressing and questioning it. Each of you must be very conscious now of focusing on when you need to be open, when it is time to be closed. “When is this my energy?” “When am I working as an Empath?” “If I am working as an Empath, it is energy if this feeling is not of mine, what am I to do with it.” You can ask. “Can I have clarity as to what this energy is? Is this energy to be translated? Is this energy to be transmuted? Is this energy to be transduced – stepped down and then translated?” Follow your own awareness of your empathic nature with letting yourself discover and then applying for yourself — evolving, your own techniques and structures; your own way of managing your Empath energy.

The Empath also must come to understand that they must set up structures for the body to work most effectively and in balance. When you live in an unstructured ,totally Empathic state, you overwhelm the body and eventually “short-circuit”. In a way, the physical body’s limitations or, rather, requirements, [which are limited compared to what the energy or spirit of the Empath can do], in a way save you by short-circuiting and therefore, closing the situation. Thus, your physical body has saved some of you from being enamored of intensity and basing too many actions on energy that may not be balanced.

In light of all this, you can see some of your choices and actions, perhaps more so reactions, were the outgrowth of unconscious Empathic connection: connecting into other people’s’ needs; connecting into needs from other times of yourself, etc. The greatest challenge for the mature Empath is discernment and differentiation.

We see in the Empath the struggle for balance. Often there are periods of excess and then a rebalance. Many of you have gone through your own periods of excess. Now you are going to come into your own period of more conscious honing of these abilities. That is part of your job, your discoveries.

In this discussion of the nature of the Empath, we are setting forth some principles and, in a way, activating your own knowledge of these things. Then because you have this perspective, you will start to see and comprehend your own actions, and how energy comes to you and you will find the mechanisms, devices, the structures that will help you work with your selves.

IMMUNE SYSTEM:

Following is the preface to an article written in conjunction with a presentation given at The Monroe Institute:
“In thinking on my involvement with the Monroe Institute’s Positive Immunity Program, I came to see again the sympatico link between my work with Orion over the years and the Hemi-Sync approach. Orion and the Positive Immunity Program both encourage us to approach the Immune System as an element within that we can work with. In the early days, two contributors were Christian and David, both HIV positive. They were Orion clients as well and had several sessions with Orion discussing their individual and joint approaches toward working with their situation. One situation I recall was that David had a more ‘battle’ oriented approach – he visualized killing off the virus, while Christian wanted to engage the immune system to transmute the virus.

It became an argument between them, but Orion emphasized the need to keep the language of the tapes open enough to allow people to mesh their individual approaches into the scripts of the tapes. This became an important factor in the workshops I participated in – people would lock into the imagery given in the tape and become confused when their own imagery was different. As a result, we made sure to address this issue in the Positive Immunity Program guidebook; giving concrete examples of how you may get many responses to a suggestion on the tapes. I see that the Hemi-Sync approach and the Orion work is based on respect of the individuals who come to the work; a trusting in the innate wisdom available to each of us.” Elisabeth

We, Orion, invite you to explore with us another view, some new ideas on that wonderful element within you, the Immune System. Some see it as a mechanism in the body that works with energizing the system, with maintaining the system, perhaps with ‘defending’ the physical system against difficulty, stress, bacteria, assault and invasion to the body.

We ask you to consider to think of this wonderful element as a guide, a guardian; the carer of the soul of the body. A guardian element so sensitive, so sympatico, so in connection with the All of you. Connected not only with your environment within and without the physical form, connected not only with your emotions and the sensitivity of your personality and self but this dear friend, the Immune System, is also connected to further than the physical self. Connected to what some may think of as the soul, what others may think of as the All of you. Encompassing, touching into, knowing all of the travels and expressions of yourself that may have been.
Understanding this can open a doorway to forming a relationship, a communication with your Immune System. Picture the Immune System as a sea. It has an element of fluctuation, as the movement of the wave. When it is disturbed or thrown into motion like the sea, it can create peaks and valleys. It can create storms and calms. Thinking of the Immune System as a sea, gives you an image not of an even plane, but an element within yourself that is in motion and more so, this motion is natural, an expression of the natural way for the Immune System to be. It is helpful to hold the idea of ‘motion’ and ‘movement’ whenever you visualize the work of the Immune System, whenever you dialogue with it; whenever you wish to engage or direct the energy of the Immune System. All of its work occurs in ebbs and flows and although you may experience it as an intense flow or rush of energy, image instead that it has built slowly, back and forth – culminating in a wave of energy bringing support and change.

Think of the Immune System as a guide; as a part of you that is very knowing, a part of you that you can speak with. It follows certain internal laws; responds to external laws, but what is so wonderful about it and indeed is wonderful about the whole nature of your physical body and physical world is it’s extreme responsiveness and ability to change, its ability to comprehend and understand, to learn. This attribute is often underestimated and many people although are just beginning to understand that they can work with the Immune System , giving it different guidelines to follow.

The body may follow certain patterns. For instance, if a cell is growing within and the Immune System recognizes this growth it may work against it. Difficulty then arises when the cell is part of the needful cells for healthiness of the body, such as in the condition labeled ‘cancer’. The Immune System will then work against this cell and at the same time can reduce the strength of the physical body. Yet you can redirect, re-educate this guide within. If you come to this dialogue with the understanding that the Immune System has as its goal and its ideal to support you, to keep a harmony in the body, then you can come to speaking with it without anger or fear, without the sense of betrayal or attack that often people in stressful physical condition begin to experience toward their body. Your body is, in its deepest intent, at one with you. It may be that the outcome seems as if one’s body is working against you. We offer you another image, that the intent is always toward support and harmony and that you can work with the body to bring the outcomes, the changes that may be different than the Immune System itself perceives need occur.

You must remember also that the Immune System is in a dance with the All of you. It dances with your fears, it dances with your stresses. It dances with your doubts. It dances with the old messages from childhood. It dances with the beliefs of your own life, of your society’s life. It dances with the time that you live and it dances with other times you have lived. Knowing this helps you to remember that there are many questions to ask; there are many things to explore when working with this responsive guardian.

If you find that you have been visualizing or meditating towards a certain outcome and yet it doesn’t seem successful, it may be that you need to dialogue, that you need to ask the Immune System , ‘What else is at work here? When I picture health, when I picture change of a symptom and it does not come, what else is at work?’ Perhaps you can help the Immune System speak by asking the questions more specifically. ‘Are we dancing with the fear of another time, of another life?’ ‘Am I dancing with a belief from childhood?’ ‘Is a part of me remembering what happened to Grandfather?’ ‘Is a part of me fearing what happened to Mother?’

All of these questions need to be asked and often; for when you are working with changes in the body it is not a single thing. It is like the onion, layer upon layer. This dialoguing can occur simply by speaking aloud, by picturing yourself engaging with this guardian of the body as a partner, as a compatriot, coming together to harness you views, to bring an outcome of harmony and balance in the physical realm.

One does not need to only be struggling with a condition or an injury to the physical to want to engage in a dialogue with the guardian of the body. You can learn many things about yourself. You can come to clarity in many ways by this dialoguing with the sea of the Immune System. You can learn why you are drawn to certain foods. You can learn why you explore certain times of tiredness or energy in your day. Some of the information that comes to you may be information that you need to accept, that will not be changed, yet this still is information which in a complex way supports the All of you even though in the moment it does not seems one you want to have.

We do not agree with those who say good health is the ‘natural’ way of life and that all variations on that reflect a lack in the body and spirit of a being. We feel that the natural impetus is towards a unity and a harmony between all beings and all aspects of life, but harmony and unity can be experienced in myriad ways, not only in a small, even flow of perfection. Perfection is also like the sea – a moving, variable element, that is at times calm and still; at other times rolling and flowing; and at other times still, crashing and powerful. The movement of all these times together encompass the perfection.

If you approach your physical world only through the image of a singular view of perfection, you will probably come to some place of disappointment; you will probably at some point judge yourself and find yourself lacking. Yet it is not that you are in lack. Rather, it is that your image of perfection, your image of the naturalness of being is too limited, too rigid, too specific. If you allow the idea of being alive, of being in the body, of being in health to be like the sea – full of opportunity to change, full of opportunity to express in many ways – then you begin with a wide image, a varied model of wellness and harmony in the body.

Having that large vision, having an acceptance that your variation, your stress, your physical struggles may be in some place of harmony with the whole of your life, may give you the foundation to change those situations or change how you experience and live with those situation or come into a deeper, clearer knowingness of what you are exploring and what you are expressing.

Most strongly we ask you to not see illness or challenge as judgment, to not accept this as an expression of your flaws or your lacks. Instead take away the language of judgment and look at these things as those you simply must cope with – events in your life that have come through the sea of being. Events that call upon you to meet challenges, to feel emotions, call upon you to redefine, perhaps, your self, your goals or your understandings. But do consider that these events do not call upon you to judge, to turn away from, to dislike yourself, your actions, choices or outcomes.

It may be a more difficult path toward having changes occur when you speak to that Immune System Guardian from disappointment and anger, from judgment and blame – you can see that it weakens your partnership. Instead begin with an acceptance – this is as it is. ‘I will question to learn more but I understand there may be a harmony here I cannot see.’ If you speak in such a way and then engage, invite, ask of the Immune System, ‘What can we do? How can we work? Can we do this? If I picture this can we bring it into being?’ Engage yourself as a team in the process. You are inviting known elements of you and perhaps elements you cannot see or label or understand as well, to come into a circle, a moving circle of realignment, rebalancing, honoring and accepting that which is and that which can come and that which may evolve.

You can consider this talk an addition to all that you may come to know about the Immune System and health. As you learn, remember the idea of the sea, of multiplicity. When you begin to visualize or write an affirmation or receive a healing or a massage or energy work or a medication or a surgical intervention, see each element as part of a great weaving. A great Whole. A great web of interconnections. Do not isolate the elements of life. Consider that what seems simple is always part of complexity and multiplicity.

Sometimes all of these ‘multiple views’ become overwhelming and you think, ‘All I can do is focus on this one thing now.’ That is exactly so. It may be that all you can do is focus on one thing, that is why it is important that we share reminder that while you are focusing on the one thing, a part of you remembers the many things and therefore, if the one thing seems not successful or not as you imaged it or leading to a different path, you will then give yourself permission to say, ‘Perhaps there is a harmony here that I did not perceive.’ Give yourself permission to question where life takes you, to question ‘Is it needful that I accept this element?’
Acceptance is not capitulation. It is not giving up to a lack. Acceptance is, instead, honoring that you are part of many things and many aspects of living and that the conscious mind and the conscious self often can only see a certain view at a certain time. Acceptance is simply an honoring of the complexity of life; honoring the idea that there is a spiritual arena that perhaps you do not fully understand, see or comprehend. Acceptance can lead the way to change.

The Immune System is part of you. You are part of it and together you are part of much more than you can imagine. We hope these words invoke your own knowingness of your alignments and your connections with yourself.

  1. Lynn Koiner Says:
    EIGHTH HOUSE:

    In my research with “mulit-dimensional phenomena,” the 8th House is a key factor here. So, with the trine to natal Neptune, this can be an excellent time for studies and activities connected with Spirit Guides and the utilization of your psychic abilities. When Neptune transits the 8th, it portends a spirit guide of someone whom you knew in this life (but they have since passed over). Studies in healing, especially vibrational healing, are favored.

    If, during the 13 year transit, Neptune makes a difficult aspect, you must be careful with investments and where your money is tied up with another. Knowing this ahead of time can prevent any difficulty.

    If the transiting Neptune makes a difficult aspect to a planet in the 11th House, there can be concern over the health of an older family member who is already in poor health.

    The period from 2012-2015, as I wrote in my Pluto article on this website, will bring a fiscal crisis that thrusts us into another recession. I plan to have all of my money in long-term tax-free bonds to ride out the difficulty.

  2. Lynn Koiner Says:
    EIGHTH HOUSE:

    When anyone has planets in the 8th House, it always bestows great powers of HEALING — but this healing can be physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, economic (financial advisors) and even technological (the man who created the computer system for the US postal service told me that he does not fix computers…he HEALS computers).

    As I say in my article, Neptune dissolves and it can dissolve all that is not real in our lives. We are shifting, changing, even floating into a new direction but you are never sure where yo are going under Neptune.
    There will be a passing away of people in your life but this often frees your energies to move into the new direction.

  3. Lynn Koiner Says:
    NEPTUNE TRANSIT & 8th HOUSE:

    First, the Neptune transit to a planet in the 8th House always indicates a new spiritual guide — and someone who is known to you (possibly passed away when you were younger). This Guide will be very helpful in guiding you through this transit.

    Neptune transits do not always indicate a passing away of someone who you know. When it is connected to the 8th House, it is possible but not always. Do not worry about this.

    This aspect opens you to subtle energies, hence, the ability and interest in healing, astrology, metaphysics and reincarnation.

    There are several Online Astrology Schools. Google this and you may even find names of schools in China. I teach medical topics at the Online Astrology College. You can check here for class schedules.

  4. Lynn Koiner Says:
    SEVENTH HOUSE TRANSIT:

    Neptune will be in your 7th House for about 13 years. In the 7th House, it will dissolve many connections that you have presently in your life. This will actually free up your energies to move on.

    Neptune rules my 8th House cusp and, due to my age, when this begins in 2014, I expect it to be a long cycle for the passing of many old friends. I learned from my mother that getting older requires Courage to stay on this planet when your friends have moved on.

    A lawyer told me that her ability to size up people was non-existent while Neptune was in her 7th House. She lost a big client. She realized that the pressure to bring in business to the company was too great. So much dissolving gave her the courage to let go of her corporate work, leave the expensive DC area and move to a smaller community where she could practice law on a less complicated level. It really worked out but she never would have made this decision if it had not all dissolved around her.

    Remember, Neptune dissolves all that is not real in our lives so that our energies can shift. This will only happen as Neptune aspects planets in your chart…Lynn

  5. Lynn Koiner Says:
    NEPTUNE & 8th HOUSE:

    The 8th House rules all things totally beyond our control and our attitude towards these things – death, taxes and the resources of others.

    First, Neptune can indicate that there is someone (or a pet) who is getting old, becoming weak and frail and a passing can be indicated – the lesson of letting go.
    Second, you have strong sensory perceptions of this Beloved Pet being around you. This is the next lesson — to connect with other dimensions, to develop our intuition and to work with these energies.
    The 8th House with Neptune can provide information through dreams, past life recollections and psychic messages. It is very good to cultivate your ability to work with these energies.
    NOTE: I have one cat now who is getting very old. She has kidney disease. I give her IVs but I have to know when it is her time to go. This is not easy. I have taken her in twice, feeling it was “her time to go” but the Vet said, “No, let’s pump her with vitamins. This will keep her going.” — she is still going.

    Next, the negative side – dishonesty, betrayal and self-delusion. If you sense that your ex-husband is doing something that can cause you harm financially, you need to act immediately. Neptune can allow you to put your head in the sand and not become “aware” until it is too late.
    Neptune can delude us when we really need to take action.

  6. Lynn Koiner Says:
    NATAL NEPTUNE IN 7th: ...you have Neptune in the 7th in the Fixed Pattern (T-Square) natally so that the problem inherently lies within yourself — Neptune in the 7th always looks for the potential in others, rather than confronting the reality of what is, and it wants to rescue others rather than working on one’s self.
    A very famous psychotherapist once said,
    There is no such thing as a rescuer — only 2 people vying for the victim slot.” This is a hard lesson to learn. Neptune is very tolerant because it can overlook the unplessant. The unpleasant always comes to light. Hopefully, the fog will clear when Neptune passes.

  7. Lynn Koiner Says:
    EMPOWERING THRU VIBRATION: Basically, when Neptune is a problem, I look to the condition of Saturn. Your Saturn is in Pisces in the 12th House and very afflicted. The key with Saturn is to learn to SAY NO!!!

    When I used to teach Esoteric Psychology (AABailey), I would advise people like yourself to wear Deep, Regal Red and listen to Wagner’s Greatest Hits — not the funeral marches — but THE ENTRANCE OF THE GODS INTO VALHALLA.
    This is empowering music and it seems to work very quickly.
    Deep Red can be worn as underwear if it does not go with your skin tone.
    Another option is to meditate on the note A Major.

  8. Lynn Koiner Says:
    NEPTUNE & HEALTH:

    1- Neptune can cause hormonal imbalances, including adrenal/thyroid. Do check your body temperature. If low, it is the adrenal/thyroid. Only a hormone saliva test, usually a gynocologist gives these tests, will reveal this. Insist upon the HSTest as the blood test is useless.
    Source Naturals does have a thyroid and adrenal supplement that is quite good. When I run out of Armour Thyroid (read Common Cures I), I take 4 of these pills from the health food store. Do not take adrenal supplements every day continuously — a week on and a week off is good, in waves. I have written about this in my CC articles.

    2 – There could be a chemical sensitivity because Neptune can trigger allergic reactions. If you can do an allergy test, absolutely make sure the allergist gives the IGg Elisa test.

    3 – Your regular doctor can give a blood test that shows all of the vitamins and nutrients in the blood. This can tell where there is a deficiency.

    Neptune transits cause a thining of the etheric web (outer rim of the etheric body) and energy can be drained.

  9. Lynn Koiner Says:
    FIBROMYALGIA:

    The signature of Fibromyalgia is the Cardinal placements in your chart, gravitating to fixing crises; Mars-Neptune on the Asc causes boundary problems, problems defining boundaries for others; the Saturn-Pluto inconjunct. Please read my article on the dysfunctional Saturn on this website.

  10. Lynn Koiner Says:

    This article gives cures for the low energy. These suggestions can be very helpful as the adrenals are often fatigued with this transit. Food intolerances can be a problem too, draining energy.
    Saying that you should work on spirituality under Neptune is not helpful. I am old and I have lived through many Neptune transits. This article tells you what happens
    I have had people in business be on the alert for deception and they both saved their business and turned a hefty profit.
    In the chart for a client in the Middle East, I gave him a description of someone who was cheating him. He said it described his company manager but “he could not possibly cheat me” — and he did … millions! If he had heeded my warning, he would have done much better.
    We experience deception when we put our heads in the sand and refuse to see the truth about those around us.
    We all stick our heads in the sand so do not feel that you failed in this matter.
    When Neptune opposed my Venus, I could not believe that my best friend was no longer my friend…but this happened.
    In actuality, when this happened, I had outgrown the situation and it was time to move on. Neptune dissolves all that is not real in the life.

  11. Lynn Koiner Says:

    EMPATH ENERGY: If you Google Orion Wisdom, you may come up with a friend’s website and she has a fantastic article on Empaths. I would like to post it here. This is always intensified with Neptune transits.
    Eating meat is very grounding and this may be sounding that you needed under the influence of Neptune. Red meat can dull the Solar Plexus receptivity.
    JUPITER-NEPTUNE-CHIRON: At first, I did not think that it did much but I did formulate a vision for 2010 — Global Gatherings where people around the world can tune in (such as Skype) and hear me interview astrologers in Europe, or anywhere for that matter. Right now, it is just a vision but I have lined up the astrologers to interview.

  12. Lynn Koiner Says:
    NEPTUNE TRANSITS & PREGNANCY:

    It is important — for both you and your child — that you feel grounded during and after pregnancy. I suggest the Bach Flower Remedy, Clamatis, taken daily to help with this.
    Neptune itself would not cause pregnancy problems so do not worry about this.
    Neptune is the Crisis of Disconnectedness and this is a most uncomfortable feeling. Follow the suggestions in the article. Feeling grounded now will help develop and strengthen your unborn child’s etheric body.
    While you are under the Neptune transit, after the child is born, do a lot of close cuddling. The child will sense when you have just tuned out and you must practice connectedness with your baby….before and after birth.

  13. Lynn Koiner Says:
    BEGINNING PLANETS: All of those planets are your beginning planets. It often indicates that you have not spent a lot of time on planet earth and, with the outers, you have not spent a lot of time in modern history. You could have been working on “the other side” transmitting and developing ideas to be picked up by those of us on earth.
  14. Lynn Koiner Says:
    NEPTUNE TRANSITS & BACH FLOWER ESSENCES:

    Yes, the Bach Flower Essence is indeed Mimulus for gently pulling you back into your body during a Neptune Transit.
    When other transits occur, such as Pluto, this sometimes helps with the grounding.

    When there are planets in the Water Houses (4-8-12), especially Neptune, there is a powerful connection with multi-dimensional realities — the veil between the seen and unseen is extremely tenuous. “Is this me or something else that I am picking up?” This sensing can cause anxiety when one does not know from where the feeling is coming.

    The information on Empath Energy may help. A black tourmoline crystal carried around the body can block negative energy (it will eventually crumble when it becomes overloaded with negative energy).

    With Neptune tansiting the Grand Air Trine, training one’s self in the handling of these energies — such as healing — might help.

  15. Lynn Koiner Says:

    AMBER: This is an excellent addition to the Neptune information. Thank you for posting. Also know that, when a transit occurs in late degrees, it is an ending cycle. Some endings are pleasant and others are not. Neptune ends through disappointment or dissolving.

    One friend has developed a health issue, palsy in her hands. She is a physiotherapist in Europe and she knows that she will have to end the type of therapy that she offers. Fortunately, she has faith that this is because she must go into a new direction professionally.

    Neptune transiting the 7th is often a time of dissolving relationships…but relationships that you have outgrown. It is time to move on. One woman had a long-term client leave for another law firm. She could no longer make enough money to be a partner in her firm. She knew it was
    time to move to another, less expensive city and be self-employed, where she did not have the pressure to make a lot of money for the firm.

    In 2012, Neptune will cross my 7th House and it rules my 8th as well. I am at the age when many friends will start to pass away. I see this even now with the Jupiter-Uranus Conjunction in the late degrees.

    Even now, I can see the endings in my life – not bad – and a time to end some of my activities that I have been doing for a long time…it is time to move on.

  16. Lynn Koiner Says:
    FIBROMYALGIA -- is associated with the Cardinal signs (adrenal-thyroid) and it is the result of an allergic reaction to the adrenaline, which you psychologiclally rebel and recent the crises with which you must deal.

  17. Lynn Koiner Says:
    NEPTUNE TRANSITS & NODES(3-2012): I have a very different interpretation of the Nodes. I am old so I have observed transits and progressions to the Nodes for about 50 years (I am 66).
    Most astrologers read a book on this topic and then they never challenge the information — I always do if it does not fit my personal experience.
    While there is much to say about Nodes, I will give my answer to your question.

    The Virgo-Pisces Nodal Axis indicates that, in this lifetime, you must let go of details and learn to work with chaos, eventually learning that there is really order in chaos.
    The ultimate destiny is to bring order out of chaos…because you understand chaos.

    When any planet aspects a Node (with any aspect; it does not matter), it will highlight the qualities of Neptune. There can be an interest in metaphysical subjects, psychic development and even new levels of creativity. Another lesson is in determining what is real and what is not in relationships and about your childhood.

  18. Lynn Koiner Says:
    NEPTUNE IN PISCES:

    This is an excerpt —
    Neptune first entered the sign of Pisces during the summer of 2011. It is now in Pisces through January 2026! Mass consciousness is ruled by Neptune – the Neptunian hardware has penetrated everywhere with its transit through Aquarius. This transit will bring radically new ways that we can solve problems of everyday life. Reality is broken, as Neptune leaves the Rational Air sign of Aquarius and enters a Water sign, a sign with no sense of boundaries! The veil between the Seen and Unseen will become more tenuous. Rational people will be able to hold onto shreds of reality. When such people say that they have the answer, they have no clue – trust and take care of your self!

    From April 4 through August 5, 2011, there was a preview of the Neptune cycle – a cycle that began in 1862. As with all final phases, you harvest what you have sown in the past. Fairy tales were developed in the last Neptune in Pisces cycle.

    Neptune in Pisces with no other outer planets in Air signs, the Age of Reason will vanish. You will not miss this shift – you will FEEL IT! She warned that, with this transit, those who have a very tenuous grip upon reality may very well lose it.

    During the summer of 2011, I had four acquaintances call me from what they described as the Funny Farm. Through a sense of isolation and social interaction with realistic people, they just lost their grip upon reality.

    Neptune in Pisces will also manifest great Spiritual Delusions. It marks the End of the Age of Reason (the Air signs). Rational people will fare better and be more able to “hold onto shreds of reality.” Many will feel seized by the power of God due to Neptune in Pisces.

    People who do not believe in psychic energy are in for a shock, especially when they too have visions. Learning how to tune out this incoming Neptunian flow will be important, since we do not want this to impact or interfere with our daily routines.

    If it is too much, more people will look for escapes – chemicals, virtual reality experiences, living in fantasy worlds with “increasing levels of detail,” and some others will get “drunk on God” – something even worse than alcoholism! When our world seems to be blowing apart at the seams, many will want to just tune out.

    And, our world will be shrinking due to the speed of connectivity. Neptune rules states of mind – the dream world, the meditative, inspired and even confused states of mind. Even those with clear purposes will become confused at times – what is real and what is not!

    Find ways to protect yourself, to tune out or block the negative energies. These can be all too readily absorbed during the transit of Neptune in Pisces. Find your “Safe Place.”

    NOTE: Mystic Curio, run by a man who graduated from the University of Maryland, sells High John the Conqueror oil in Port Charlotte, Florida. I find this to be a powerful protector when applied to the base of the spine and the back of the neck. I first met Richard in New Orleans where his family had been making these oils for years. He moved to Port Charlotte after Katrina. He has such wonderful energies and, when in New Orleans, he was always rescuing animals and baby birds.

    So, the obvious moral of Neptune is to get off drugs!

  19. Lynn Koiner Says:
    NEPTUNE TRANSITS INSIGHTS:

    Neptune is squaring my progressed Mercury in the 4th House and I had big plumbing problems, requiring all of the lower level pipes to be re-routed from under the floor to overhead and back in to the boiler…it is horrible and everything is torn apart.

    Year ago a friend warned me to never have renovations done under a Neptune transit as you will feel completely disconnected and even lost. Well, it seems that I only do renovations under a Neptune transit – probably to change the energies in my home but, indeed, I feel lost and disconnected.

    Sometimes health is affected with the 6th House but sometimes it is betrayal in a professional situation. Follow the health suggestions in the article to build up the immune system.

  20. Lynn Koiner Says:
    ALKALIZING THE BLOOD:

    1. BURDOCK (Orctium Lappa) – this herb helps detox the skin, liver and blood; it is high in iron and it stimulates the lymph.
    2. Blood Cleaners are Red Clover (anti-cancer herb), Burdock, Stinging Nettles (a powerful antihistamine for allergies) and Cleaves. These rid the blood of toxins and impurities.
    3. Dandelion Root is a Blood Purifier what supports the liver, pancreas, kidneys and spleen. It has diuretic properties.
    4. Yellow Dock is a blood purifier that supports the liver and gall bladder and, because it is high in iron, it helps with anemia. Iron should only be taken through herbs.

    For information on blood purifiers:
    http://wejees.net/freebooks/blood-purifiers-natural-help.pdf

    LILY: Yes, indeed, the 8th House is very much a healing house, of the strongest order.

    Since Neptune is transiting your 2nd, stimulating Chi through Tai-Chi, yoga, aerobics and African types of dancing will be very important, especially since you have planets in Mutable signs. These activities stimulate the lymph and this will be VERY important.

    Periodically, treat yourself to a lymph drainage massage. I prefer someone who uses the mechanical type. Find someone who has good healing energies. Locally, there is only one lousy lymph person so I go to Virginia Beach and Phoenix for my lymph drainage massages.

  21. Peter Says:

    Dear Lynn,

    One of your recurring themes is that of transiting Neptune making an aspect to late degree planets signifing an ending cycle for some structure in one’s life. What about transiting Neptune making an aspect to an early degree planet? Does it signify a begining of a new cycle? I currently have transiting Neptune opposite my natal Jupiter (tenth house) to 25 January 2013.

  22. Lynn Koiner Says:

    PETER (10-2012): You asked a timely question — Transiting Neptune making aspects in early degrees:

    First, there is a transiting Neptune-Transpluto opposition occurring at the same time –

    + There is a transiting opposition in the skies (Neptune opposing Transpluto) operating since fall 2010 and into 2013, that is causing people to want to end a pattern in their lives.
    Many find themselves saying: “I am tired of being a Good Girl/Boy, I am tired of care-taking, I am tired of menial tasks, I am tired of seeking the approval of others, I am tired of being a perfectionist, I am tired of micro-managing…I want to let go of it all but I do not know what will take its place, especially after years of maintaining the pattern of behavior!”
    This is a great ending cycle (Transpluto leaving Leo for its ruling sign of Virgo) but sensing the new is inchoate – do not be impatient for the new. It is a matter of timing.

    + There are those responding to Neptune in Pisces. These people feel lost, ambivalent, unsure of what to do next but no suggestion seems to appeal to them.

    As I stated in my Astro-Column, a beginning Neptune means that one starts new cycles in a cloud/fog with no clear sense of what is coming. One has to operate on intuition but be careful not to make commitments until clarity presents itself.

    People can take advantage of us when we are in the vulnerable cycle. It is important to accept that you do not know where you are going and not to make commitments that would actually prevent you from going into “the promised land.”

  23. Peter Says:

    Dear Lynn,

    Thanks for your advice. Is it still correct to assume that even with early degree planets Neptune transits will still dissolve boundaries? As I have indicated transiting Neptune is currently opposite my natal Jupiter, 0 degrees 50 minutes in Virgo, 10th house. However, a number of years ago transiting Neptune did square with my natal Jupiter. Does an opposition have a different impact on boundaries? Or, after the experience of a Neptune square did other boundaries arise that now need to be dissolved by a Neptune opposition?

  24. Lynn Koiner Says:

    PETER (10-2012): Neptune will always affect us the same way UNTIL we start to establish boundaries for ourselves. Once this is achieved, it will work in another way that needs working on.

    Jupiter at 0 can jump into new situations like diving into a pool without looking to see if there is any water in the pool. We eventually learn caution and to use intuition in assessing a new situation.

    Neptune opposing Jupiter is what I call the “Sap” aspect — someone can appeal to Jupiter in Virgo’s relating at a task oriented level and take advantage. It is a new situation and you need to thoroughly assess any new situation before jumping in and helping out.

  25. Mia Says:

    I have been going thru Mid Life transits…I am finished with Pluto square Pluto and Neptune square Neptune…but have Neptune opposing my natal Sun (2nd to 8th in Tropical Placidus/4th to 10th if using Whole Sign Houses), and my “natal promise” is an out of sign Sun in Virgo square Neptune in Scorpio.

    I relate to the lost feeling; however I am using the energy to develop my psi dreaming abilities more fully and began filming a documentary on dreams and I am very involved with The International association for the Study of Dreams. I have been fending off my boyfriend’s wishes to get married and merge our resources because a) I know I have this transit to the 8th house (tropical placidus) and b) I “feel” unable to commit to anything…moving in with him was a real struggle for me, but I did because I knew I had to show him some level of “inness.”

    Along with the above I am riding the Mid Life transit Uranus opposition Uranus, which retrogrades back and forth for several years…started in 2011 (natally I have a Jupiter/Uranus conjunction conjuncting my MC all in Libra); and an upcoming Saturn in Scorpio opposition Saturn/Part of Fortune conjunction in Taurus (4th – 10th tropical placidus). My mantra has been “bring it on” for the last few years, LOL!

    In about 10 years I will have Neptune conjunct my North Node in Pisces/3rd house (natal promise Neptune Trine N Node), and then Neptune opposition Mercury/Pluto conjunction in Virgo (natal promise Neptune sextile Mercury/Pluto).

    Thanks for this web page!!!

  26. Rosie Says:

    Hi Lynn, I have neptune transiting my second house with natal Sun, Venus and Mercury in Virgo in my 8th house and Pluto at 28 degrees Virgo in the 9th house – Will Neptune in the second cause major affects to all my 8th house planets? Thank you !

  27. Lynn Koiner Says:

    ROSIE (10-2012): In my observations, all of the planets in the 8th will not be affected at the same time. I only use exact orbs for transits — when Neptune first enters the degree of a planet to when it leaves for the last time the degree/minute of the planet.

    Pluto at 28 degrees is an ending planet — this aspect as Neptune leaves Pisces will bring many problems to an end as you let go and move on.

    One of the problems with the 8th House is that it is obsessive and such obsessions can lead to mistrust and distrust, esp. in the obsessive sign of Virgo (I am a Virgo so I know Virgos naturally obsess).

    With Neptune, there will be such a fog in your life that it will SEEM impossible to differentiate between what is real and what is no, especially in the beginning of Pisces/Virgo. Then it will be OK.

    Many 8th House folks are OCD, to some degree. I am always attracted to them because they are always so creative and interesting and they have natural healing ability…a subject that interests me.

    So, this aspect will only last a couple of years until Neptune gets out of the early degrees of Pisces.

  28. Peter Says:

    Dear Lynn,

    Thanks for your advice in regard to the “Sap” aspect. This aspect is somewhat mitigated by the fact that my transiting Neptune opposite natal Jupiter is forming a t-square with my natal Saturn, 29 degrees 32 minutes in Scorpio, 12th house.

  29. Michelle Says:

    Dear Lynn,
    In March, I will have Neptune transiting my 6th opposite my 12th house Virgo Moon. I plan on taking a several month long coastal cruise with my husband on our sailboat during that time. I had read that extra caution should be taken when being around water during this transit. Should I be concerned? Thank you,

  30. Lynn Koiner Says:

    MICHELLE (12-2012): It may seem strange but I find that any Neptune aspect, good or bad, is favorable for escaping through travel, especially travel around water.

    Any aspect is also favorable for cosmetic surgery, like a face lift or breast augmentation.

  31. Rebecca Says:

    I’m been really curious about T neptune. in 2013 Neptune will be conj my MC and at the same time it will be squared my Mercury (in the 6th… rules my ASC and IC). What I keep reading is that I’m going to be seriously confused about my career. I already have Sun conj Neptune (in the 6th/Sag) with my MC in Pisces so I’m comfortable with that energy… could there be a possibility of a move related to my career (I’m a photographer/graphic designer)… or more creative inspiration pertaining to my photography?

  32. Lynn Koiner Says:

    REBECCA (12-2012): You really need to read my article and answers more thoroughly, especially the part about deception and disappointment.

    Early degrees describe new situations in the work and maybe with an authority figure (MC).

    + The situation at work will be confusing and not all will be clear.
    +Make sure that you document everything, appear to be documenting everything, so that you cannot be blamed for anything.
    +Do not listen to rumor or hearsay at the office.
    + Do not initiate changes yourself but flow with those that happen
    +Do not sign papers on contracts that create a new situation

    This is an interpretation that can benefit readers.

  33. Alison Says:

    Hi Lynn, I find your site interesting.i have Neptune about to transit my asc 2 deg Pisces and next Neptune sq mercury 5 deg Gemini.I am feeling the effects of this transit to some degree.i feel that I am becoming anxious and very unsettled. Neptune has just past a sq to my natal Saturn in sag 10th house and my boss has deceived me thru underpaying me and deception of my work contract.what I am really concerned about is the ascendant / mercury aspects that are about to occur with Neptune.my natal Neptune in libra is in the 9th house. I don’t have natal contacts from Neptune in my chart to these 2.mercury &asc. Am I going to appear confusing to others asc. I do feel that I am worrying over things more than I normally do and I am wondering will this become more prominent as Neptune gets closer to my mercury.

  34. Elizabeth Says:

    My natal chart has mars squaring Pluto (2 degrees) and Neptune sextile Pluto (less than 1 degree)all at early degrees. Neptune transiting in Pisces has just squared mars and is approaching the opposition with Pluto before it then quickly trines itself. The theme of life right now seems to be to slow down and to trust because there is no energy for activity, ambition or even materializing creativity and i just want to withdraw and hide. In the meantime Saturn is about to retrograde right back over my scorpio Mercury/Jupiter conjunction before moving back a few more degrees to touch my natal Neptune. At least transiting Pluto is continuing it’s sextile to the Scorpio bunch for a little longer. I want to make changes but am feeling that my approach will need to be based more on cautious intuition than intellect.

  35. Christine Says:

    Hi Lynn,

    Your site is a mine of precious information, thank you so much.

    Do you have any general advice for those of us with natal Uranus and Pluto in Virgo while Neptune is in Pisces?

  36. Lynn Koiner Says:

    CHRISTINE (3-2013): It is impossible to give a general interpretation of a transit. Lois Rodden wrote a really nice book on transits that you might read.

    But, unless Neptune aspects some of your personal planets, this transit will be more about external events that you are reacting to and it depends upon the House position.

    But, by and large, if it is a generational transit, it affects a large group of people and not you exactly…unless there are aspects to your personal planets.

    Neptune is about dissolving all that is not real in your life.
    Neptune-Uranus is a restless dissatisfaction with the lack of creativity in your life.

  37. Nathan Says:

    Hi, Lynn,

    I have a Neptune 2nd house transit, opposing my natal Mercury at 8th Virgo house. Before Neptune 2nd house hit, I lost 30% in my investment. Since Neptune hits my 2nd house, I suffered additional 20%, bringing my total loss to about 50%. Due to all the Neptune retrograde, Neptune will not exit the last opposition to my Mercury until the end of Jan in 2015. I feel like drowning in despair already now. Is my investment going to go even lower? Will the 1.5 months of temporary exit of Neptune from my 2nd house bring a short relief in late October & November? Neptune will be in my second house for another 16 or 17 years, and will oppose my natal Sun/Mars/Moon/Pluto in the coming years. I am fearful of what’s yet to come. I’m literally being dissolved by Neptune. Before Neptune hits my 2nd house, I was idealistic about Neptune’s effects, and wanting to donate to charity more every year (my natal Neptune is in 10th house). Now I have a very low self-esteem, and I feel like any new actions that I undertake will fail by default. Life should be about cycles, but Neptune cycle is too long.
  38. Lynn Koiner Says:

    NATHAN (5-2013): That is a very bad money aspect that you are experiencing. Neptune can be controlled through discipline, only going with what is practical, avoiding all get-rich-quick schemes and playing it very safe financially.

    You never said when you got into the investment but, if under Neptune, it is never going to get better. You need to talk to a good and reputable financial adviser.

  39. Nathan Says:

    I didn’t get into those investments when Neptune gets into my 2nd house. I bought them years ago, and they’re now at the lowest point for possibly the last 10-year period.

    I now realize that the meaning of Neptune oppose Mercury may be actually opposite of what I have always thought. Instead of stimulating my mind for higher purpose & love, it’s actually the totally opposite. Neptune brings a total confusion to me, and my mind has always been on higher purpose (natal Neptune in Sagittarius in 10th, with natal Jupiter in Sagittarius in late 11th/early 12th house).

    So instead of zooming higher, I am crashing spiritually (& financially), and doubting my ability and purpose of my continual journey to higher purpose.

    Worse yet, I’ve got 16 and 17 years of this ahead of me possibly.

    I really hope that the $3.7K that I donated this year won’t be my last dollars to charity.

  40. Andre Says:

    Hi Lynn
    Starting a relationship with a Sun (9PISCES38) 10th house square Neptune (9SAGIT35) 7th house. Not young (39 y. o.) a kind of medium. What to expect considering the Sun rules the 4th house and Neptune rules the 11th house. Transiting Neptune conjunct the Sun, square natal Neptune (middle age crisis).

  41. Ange Says:

    My dob -23 Oct 53 – current transits are Pluto trine/Saturn opp my 10deg Taurus Moon.

    Met a man and going out for the a couple of months before it finished STRANGELY — his ex wife ( separated in Oct 10 and stayed in UK) while he lives here in Australia – turned up out of the blue wanting to continue their relationship. He said he ‘felt a certain amount of guilt ‘ at the way it ended and felt obliged to sort it out/consider it and said it wasn’t fair to me to be caught in the middle!!!! His Venus is O degrees Virgo so Neptune has been opposing from approx March 2011 although presumably the effects are felt a few degrees each side. Pluto was transiting his Moon, ( conjunct) when they split. His dob is 14 July 54. What is your take on the timing of Neptune transits and have you heard of Neptune situations like this before?
    thanks

  42. Lynn Koiner Says:

    ANDRE (6-2013): Someone will pass from your life. The 11th House affects the well-being of someone in your family circle.

    Neptune will not square your Sun until 2015 so I cannot tell you about starting a relationship until you start one.

    ANGE: This man is very Neptunian so let him go. He only hovers in a relationship. He is never really there so you never really no where you stand.
    But, with the Moon in Taurus, you probably will not listen.

  43. eu123 Says:

    May i respond to Nathan about what is about to happen when Neptune leaves the opposition with Mercury and moves to his third house? He will lose it all and start new in another country, this is what represents Neptune’s transit in 3rd house or if positived he will expand in other country, but i doubt it.
    I have my natal Neptune in Caprico and it’s on 12th house placed but all my life until now i’ve been dissapointed with everything i achieved. I can’t say that i wasn’t protected by God but it got me deceived about everything. But a part of it was also fun, because Neptune is positive by nature. I sometimes think and think and i realise that i have had a happy time. I felt closer to happiness than ever when Pluto transited my 11th house and over my natal Saturn, the sky of heaven with Neptune transiting 1st house was a miracle made by God, like God really loves me.

  44. Paige Says:

    Neptune is/will be conjunct my 5th house NN (4’ 55” Pisces)…not sure if it matter but my 5th house is actually ruled by Aquarius, as only the first 6 degrees of Pisces are in the 5th. either way, how can I expect this transit to manifest itself…especially since theyll be conjunct the entire retrograde period. Better yet, how can I expect Neptune’s transition from my 5th to 6th house in late April 2014 to affect me?

  45. Lynn Koiner Says:

    PAIGE (7-2013): First, I do not find a transit to a non-angular House cusp to be significant until the transiting planet aspects a planet in the natal chart.

    Second, any planet crossing a Node, in my observation, only highlights the energy of the planet…in this case, Neptune. It does not matter if it is a good aspect or a bad one – the planet is only highlighted.

    There can be an interest in spiritual, metaphysical subjects, developing creative talent, partaking in recreational activities…all are favored.

  46. Alis Says:

    Hi Lynn I currently have transit Neptune through the early degrees of my 7th house, in few months it will make a trine to my natal jupiter who is now in conjunction with transit saturn and soon it will conjunct my natal saturn on 7th. I was told to be careful with the people that enters to my life and more because i have neptune in capricorn 5th house nataly so i tend to idealize the people i know, and more because right now is making an opp with my natal moon and squaring my natal mc, that last thing i’m feeling it a lot since i dont know what i want to do.

  47. Lynn Koiner Says:

    ALIS (8-2013): I currently have Neptune entering my 7th and, so far, no deceptions but I do not have deceptive people in my life (I am older and more discriminating).

    What has happened is that many people are leaving my life – most because they are leaving the area and I may never see them again. It is very sad. Fortunately, there is the internet but this is not the same.

    In the 7th, changes in our lives always comes through others.

    If you tend to idealize others, then you must be more realistic in your relationships. The trine Jupiter can be good for creative and spiritual people but you can never get that close to Neptunian people so you must realize this.

    The lesson may be to accurately evaluate the people in your life.

    Sorry, I cannot give personal readings on this forum, only answer questions about the articles or say something that would be interesting to others.

  48. gugu Says:

    Hi Lynn,

    I have a Neptune 2nd house transit, with an approaching opposition to my natal 8 deg Mercury in the 8th Virgo house. Mercury rules my 9th and 6th houses and it’s the focal point of my t-square (uranus – mercury – north node).

    I’m a student and this is the third college I’ve attended in ten years and I couldn’t graduate before, because of my health issues. I’ve been determined to graduate this time, succeeded in courses and specialized in a certain field besides the courses; and I have two and a half years left.

    I had epilepsy seizures and suffered from chronic depression after a long time last fall, and it took me months to recover (had Saturn return and Saturn conj Moon and square Sun). I had to take a break from college and work. In this period, my professors (who are also my mentors and friends) in college have had significant disagreements with the faculty administration and decided to leave my department. New coming academic staff is not qualified and proficient.

    Now I have this approaching opposition ahead of me and I’m seriously concerned about my health and academic situation.

    My natal Neptune is in 29 deg Sagittarius in 12th house, Jupiter in Capricorn conj ASC and Neptune.
    Furthermore, transiting Neptune trines my Scorpio Moon on MC.

    I know that you can’t give personal readings here but it will be appreciated if you can give me some insight into this transit.

  49. Rosie Says:

    Hi Lynn,
    I can’t tell you enough how much I love your site, I refer to it often, I am your biggest fan.
    After reading this article I am hoping you can provide some clarity for me. Neptune is squaring my natal Saturn in the 5th starting June 2013 until mid-November 2015. Since I am a Capricorn rising, and have Saturn in the 5th, will I find the betrayal in my 5th house with my boyfriend?
    Also, does this transit signify the beginning of an illness? I heard this was the doom and gloom transit. If so, what body parts would be affected?
    Many thanks !
    Rosie

  50. Lynn Koiner Says:

    ROSIE (8-2013): It is impossible to make a specific statement about a transit to a natal planet. Much depends upon the entire chart. Recently, Neptune squaring my Progressed Mercury in the 4th caused 2 major plumbing incidents for my very old house.

    Generally, I find that Neptune-Saturn is connected with a career shift. Saturn in the 5th learned to be responsible early on and now you do not want to be this way.

    I have never heard this was a gloom and doom aspect — except by gloom and doom astrologers.

    You need to read the article for health suggestions.

  51. Raul Says:

    Hello Lynn

    I have neptune transiting my 5th house. I have 6 planets in my 11th house— sun,north node,jupiter,venus,mercury & saturn. I started gambling in 2005. Do you think it has any relation to neptune transiting my 5th house. I had a good speculation period in May-July 2009 when there was a triple conjunction Jupiter,neptune and chiron in my 5th house.Please advise

    Kind Regards
    Raul

  52. Lynn Koiner Says:

    RAUL (9-2013): Neptune is associated with addictions – and gambling is an addiction – that are a delusion that keep us from dealing with some reality with which we cannot cope.

    You need to deal with this – even boredom in your life – and then deal with the addiction.

    There is no real advice that I can give you. You wanted to know if Neptune transiting the 5th House would do this and the answer is YES.

  53. Katrin Says:

    Hi Lynn,
    this article and replies is really helping me but I do feel really overwhelmed by transiting Neptune in my 8th house (conjunct Chiron) setting off a strong dynamic in my chart.
    Neptune is now opposite my Mars/Pluto conjunction in 2nd hse whilst squaring my Gemini 11th hse Moon! My dreams have started to get really intense with anxiety scenarios, which is not a normal experience for me. I suddenly realise I have built some future plans (a fantasy) on a totally impractical set of possibilities which would involve relying on people who are likely to make changes in their own lives. I have been making decisions motivated by fear of material insecurity whilst I thought I was “going with the flow”. My body – health, seems to have gone out of my control and I’m really confused as to what is “healthy” for me now as everything seems to make me overweight, tired and cranky even health food and exercise! I’ve begun to feel like food is an “enemy” and this is going to go on for 2 more years!
    Can you give me any suggestions how I might understand Neptune’s message regarding my Mars/Pluto (square Moon)?

  54. Starcounter Says:

    Hi, Lynn!

    I came to this site while searching for some explanation of my ‘transit” chart. As I find it a little bit complicated I would be happy if you could tell me what do you think about it:
    Neptune transiting my 10th house, Sextile to my natal Sun(12 house), sextile to natal Neptune (8 house), Trine natal Pluto (6 house).

  55. Lynn Koiner Says:

    KATRIN (9-2013): You require much more information than I can give on this Q&A.
    For weight issues, these are boundary issues — problems defining boundaries for others and for food. Read my article on the site on Weight Loss and the Transformational Process.

    Neptune makes us feel ungrounded and, as the article suggests, the Bach Flower Remedy, Clematis, is very helpful for this, taken daily.

    Neptune dissolves all that is not real in our lives and this can manifest as disappointment and loss in some relationships.

    Neptune makes us feel overly sensitive and empathic so food/fat create a physical boundary and protection. You need to find other ways to protect or desensitize yourself…or, at least, talk about your fears with friends whom you trust.

    ———————————————————

    STARCOUNTER: Not much happens with favorable Neptune transits. Its aspects to the natal Neptune and Pluto are all generational and they describe changes that occur around you or globally.

    The Neptune-Sun aspect makes us long for something better, something more creative…creative escapes. You need to find something creative or just interesting that allows you to escape the mundane in a positive way.

  56. Charlotte Says:

    Thank you so muchh for this post! I initially posted under the Uranus transit section about neptune/uranus lethargy. The adrenal caps really do help tremendously. Neptune squaring my MC feels like Alice in Wonderland: everyone is an enemy and a friend, everything I eat might kill me, and for reasons I can’t comprehend I woke up in a strange world. I think its the 3rd pass so by now I am learning something… but oh man. I’ve found most bloggers underscore the impact of a neptune transit because its so long/slow but it can really be a struggle.

    With a ton of concurrent mercury transits I don’t feel like I’m supposed talk anymore. I’m trying to listen but someone is trying to destroy my character and I can’t defend myself. I keep apologizing & dissolving my ego just to keep peace. Idk if I can handle this transit for several more months. Is there anything I can do? Lol neptune rule is let everything go but maybe by the 3rd pass there’s something else I can do.

  57. Lynn Koiner Says:

    CHARLOTTE (11-2013): I would add the Bach Flower Remedy CLEMATIS, as mentioned in the article.

    Also, remember to take adrenal caps in waves — 2 weeks on/2 weeks off. If you take them every day forever, they will quickly lose their effectiveness.

  58. Sofia Says:

    Hi Lynn,

    “On April 3, 1997, under a Neptune transit, a friend developed fibromyalgia, a very common and painful ailment that has no cure or no known cause. (…)
    Most health issues are vague and undefined. Often, when the transit ends, so does the undefined health issue.”

    Having recently developed fibromyalgia under a Neptune transit opposite to natal Venus, I’d like to know if you consider this illness as something that may end when this transit is gone. Did it happened with the friend you refer to above?

    Kind regards,
    Sofia

  59. Lynn Koiner Says:

    SOFIA (12-2013): My friend moved away many years ago but her condition did improve.

    If you have traditional fibromyalgia, it is a disease of the Cardinal signs with Libra and/or Virgo influences. These people where often compelled to handle many crises in the life.

    There is a resentment towards this “compulsion.” So, the individual develops an allergic reaction to the adrenalin that is produced.

    With any pain, the first line of defense is to eliminate many foods from the diet. Basically, grains and dairy to begin with. Life Extension Foundation offers a relatively inexpensive Food Intolerance test (not food allergy!). In May and June, it is half price for members ($148). The Elisa Test is hard to read and confusing and really expensive ($900).

    But, any one can start to eliminate possible problem foods. I found that many people show a reaction to pineapple and almonds. On my Medical Forum, there could be something about FMS there and there is a food intolerance list — but grain and dairy are the biggies. You can even ask questions on that forum.

    With Neptune, you need to learn to define boundaries.
    If you have insurance, an endocrinologist to test for all hormones – adrenals, thyroid etc. Even borderline conditions are helped with natural supplements. I take Armour Thyroid or NaturThroid (CVS even carries this now) and DHEA and other supplements that have helped my condition.

    Let me know how this all turns out. You can improve but you must make life style changes.

  60. Sofia Says:

    Hi Lynn,

    Thank you so much for your answer.

    “If you have traditional fibromyalgia, it is a disease of the Cardinal signs with Libra and/or Virgo influences. These people where often compelled to handle many crises in the life.
    There is a resentment towards this “compulsion.” So, the individual develops an allergic reaction to the adrenalin that is produced.”

    I’m a double Cancer with a Capricorn Moon in the 6th house. Venus is in Virgo and conjunct the South Node, receiving an opposition from Neptune since the beginning of 2013, when my fibromylgia and Siogren’s syndrome begun. I’m aware that resentment has been an issue in the last two years. I’m working on it and I’ve been doing life style changes (including meditation), although the improvements are not enough.

    Actually, I will do a Food Intolerance test next week – the ProNutri test. (I’m not familiar with the tests you’ve mentionned, as I live in Portugal.)

    I’m not finding your Medical Forum. Could you please send the link?

    Many thanks!

  61. Phil Says:

    Hi,
    I have Neptune transiting my 8th which started as Neptune entered Pisces.

    Pluto is at 1 degree Virgo and Mercury is at 4 degrees Virgo so in opposition.

    Last year I was coming out of some long term illness problems and I had a small negligence claim awarded to me.

    Unfortunately, it was easy for me to make some big mistakes financially (Neptune transiting the 8th I guess) and I now want to straighten things out as quickly as possible. I fear, however, it will be very difficult for me to do this and there may be some big losses along the way.

    Have you any advice of how to do this as quickly and painlessly as possible?

    Many thanks

  62. Lynn Says:

    Hi, Lynn,

    I have natal Neptune conj. my Libra ASC and it will be opposing, by transit, my Virgo Moon, beg. March 2014.

    To ground, with strong Neptunian stuff going on, you recommended Clematis and adreno caps. Could you tell me a brand name for the adreno caps. I’m sure it’s on your site, but wasn’t certain where to look. I can get the Bach Flower Clematis quite easily.

    Thanks, Lynn. (Good name!!)

    Lynn

  63. Lynn Koiner Says:

    PHIL (2-2014): For some reason, I am not receiving post notifications for emails from my website. I just found these looking at my website to make additions.

    Phil, it is impossible to make specific predictions without knowing your chart. BUT, I always advice people to be very careful about signing any papers, especially if finances are involved.
    I would seek advice about the situation. Sometimes an advisor at the bank can help, especially if you will be depositing money in that bank.
    This is about all that I can tell you.

    LYNN (2-2014): The easiest to obtain is Solaray Raw Adrenals caps but make sure the one that you buy has raw adrenal in it. I order mine from Nutri-Meds and I get the Porcine Capsules. Remember, 2 a day for about 3 weeks to begin with and then take in waves — a week on and a week off, otherwise, they stop working.

    DHEA, the type that can be taken under the tongue is also very good. I take a liquid that my gyne gave me by Energetix called Hormonal Support DHEA Drops.

    Clematis is a Bach Flower Remedy

  64. Kelly Says:

    Thank you Lynn for posting some of these Neptune remedies. I’ve had Neptune transiting my 6th since it hit 1 Pisces and experienced all manner of bizarre health issues. Viruses, extreme Fatigue, adrenal & hormone imbalance, thyroid issues, weight & bloat issues, an almost mini-stroke type incident a while back, mild Bells palsy on right side.

    It has also been an extremely “accident prone” period where I was in a car accident, knocked flat out by my very large dog, several weird falls, etc. which certainly did not help matters! I have just had to accept it’s going to be very slow going for a while which is not my speed at all! I have also experienced a lot of water type issues, weird floods (on two separate residences) but I attributed those more to Pluto transiting 4th.

    Appreciate all the suggestions and in conjunction w/chiropractic, they are sloooowly helping especially loads of Vitamin B & others (love the EmergenC – lite packets) RAW thyroid, kelp tablets, coral calcium. It is a lot to keep on top of, but I really notice that any little bit helps. This has been a doozy for me w/ traditional medical & labs not too helpful. (From what I understand there is a high chance of misdiagnosis during this period anyway?)

    I am 40, just endured all the Cardinal cross action with my early Libra stellium and Saturn & Nodes in Cancer and just had Saturn in Scorpio passing over my Moon & Venus and progressed Sun & Mercury. Ugh!! Now entering the Neptune Square Neptune period and the inconjunct to Libra stellium.

    On the plus side I do feel relaxed and creative and work is definitely changing. I am enjoying it more & loving anything arts and music related but horribly disorganized in my day to day – ha ha! Pets (particularly my dog) I have noticed are grounding and I’m really having to focus on daily routines and care-taking methods. To be honest, w/ Neptune in 3rd and Pisces on 6th, I’ve never been good at this and it’s caught up to me – I really have to make it a priority to pay attention.
    Am very grateful you have made this type of information available. Would have been very frightened to be experiencing these symptoms without any basis for understanding what was happening or what to do about it.

    Question: this is just the beginning of the cycle. Can I anticipate things worsening or does the body acclimate?

  65. Bunny Says:

    Thank you for posting the Neptune suggestions!

    Neptune is currently transiting right on my tight grand cross:
    (sun 5th gemini 8; moon 11th sag 7; pluto 8th virgo 5; chiron 2nd pis 6).

    Any thoughts on how to best channel this?

    Natally neptune is conjunct my midheaven, in scorp.

  66. MsMariette Says:

    How long will my Neptune stay in my fourth house of Aries?

    12/02/1958 @5:20am, Tewksbury, MA.

  67. Lynn Koiner Says:

    BUNNY (4-2-14): I see that you wrote while I was traveling in Europe for a month so I did not see your post.

    My best advise is in the article. I am experiencing a similar pattern in my own chart and even I am unsure of what will happen. Generally, whatever you THINK will happen or what person you feel will disappointment you – you will be wrong, often because you do not see the situation.

    Since Neptune seems to be transiting your House of Finances, you must be careful in this area – do not lend money or go into debt with some purchase or investment. Years ago, my regular financial advisor was away and this “loser” put my money in something very risky and I lost $6000.

    When I lost weight and found a new relationship under Neptune — because you can really transform yourself under Neptune — I could not believe that my 2 best friends would turn on my because they did not want me to change.

    Neptune dissolves all that is not real in your life so let go and do not look back.

    Neptune can affect your health through the lymphatic system (see Common Cures) or through hormone fluctuations. Since your were likely born in the 1960s, you need to have these checked by a gynecologist.

    Neptune does favor dissolving your psychological boundaries — travel is often a good trigger.

    There are too many possibilities to list here but do let us know what happens.

  68. Lynn Koiner Says:

    MARIETTE (4-2014): First, I do not know what system you are using but you do not have an Aries 4th House.
    You have 2 Pisces on the 4th cusp and Neptune will leave the 4th completely in 2027.

  69. Angella Says:

    Hi Lynn,

    I am about half way (seven years) through a Neptune transit of my Saturn in the 7th house.

    At four to six years into the transit, my mother died, I got divorced and had two wildly confusing love affairs. The first was with a man who lied constantly, mixed pharmaceutical drugs, drank excessively, slept around, got engaged and married to another woman, etc and the second fellow was secretly gay.

    I have come to see that Neptune (higher love) shows us where we really have to use discernment – a word that was barely in my vocabulary before – without becoming bitter.

    As you wrote, maintaing ethics is important with this transit. I would only add that spending time studying ethics can also be an actual lifesaver during this transit. I learned that the dishonor of others is not mine (a creation of psychic boundaries was also a huge bonus with this transit.)

    With a Neptune transit there is a tendency to be deluded and deceived by those who promise our dream ideal but deliver a Ponzi-scheme con game instead. Especially where it hits Saturn, an area already sensitive to severe restrictions, Neptune’s ride was so sickening, it actually made me nauseated (seasick?) every time I even thought of the first man.

    My question for you is: how to make the best use of the second half of this transit? Especially with Neptune retrograde passing over my weary Saturn again to form an exact conjunction in three months. I am wondering if perhaps it might be best to live as a monk and not get closely involved with anyone – in any way – for several more years.

    What do you think? Is this too extreme a reaction?

  70. Lynn Koiner Says:

    ANGELLA (7-2014):

    READERS: I needed to correspond with Angella to find out exactly what she meant because Neptune will never take 7 years to transit over a planet. Usually, it is only 2 years — possibly a 3rd if there is a transiting parallel which acts like a conjunction.

    While Neptune is transiting the 7th House (which Angella says will take 7 years), it is only active when it is aspecting natal planets. I also use the 150 degree aspect as well as it will produce “passings” and health issues around us.

    I do not know what degree the natal Neptune is in so I cannot be specific as to the length of time it will last — but definitely not 7 years. Yes, it may seem like 7 years but it is not.

    So, the transiting Neptune must have been aspecting other planets during the past 3.5 years for so many events to have occurred. I also use transits to the progressed personal planets — Neptune squaring my PMercury in the 4th House of 2 years caused 2 separate major plumbing crises (old house that needed and still needs new plumbing)

    Angella, you did a good job analyzing these events in your chart in terms of Neptune transits.

    T Neptune aspecting Saturn often causes the dissolution of relationships — thru death, betrayal or simply moving away.
    These are usually relationships that need to dissolve so that you can move into a new life.

    Whenever there is a Neptune transit, there is ALWAYS a Spirit Guide operating in ourselves – if we will only listen to the answers and guidance.

    Neptune is transiting my 7th as well and, so far, nothing major has occurred YET. Indeed, frieinds have moved out of the Washington area after retirement because they cannot afford to live here. I have Skype but I probably will never see many of them again.

    I am feeling lost without close social connections which I have had in the past but I know that Neptune is preparing me for a new life (scarey as I like my current one).

    Neptune will cause health issues for people around you — a slow fading away. This is not YOU but people around you.

    CLEMATIS is very helpful for those feelings of disconnectedness.

    So, the answer to the question is that only if Neptune aspects other planets in your chart will the influence be felt for the next 3 years, after it leaves Saturn.

  71. Angella Says:

    I thought I clarified (in our private emails) that Neptune has been in my 7th house for 7 years out of an 11 year transit.
    What I should have said here is that it ASPECTS Saturn TWICE during this transit – because of a retrograde Saturn motion.

    So, you are right that Neptune won’t just sit on Saturn the whole time. But even two years of an aspect is a long time for this weirdness! And, as I mentioned, the first time around was a doozy!

    I’d still love any advice for riding out this second pass.
    Thanks!

 

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