Neptune transits
There are 3 issues symbolized by Neptune that I will address using the examples submitted by readers. These issues are: 1) DISSOLUTION OF BOUNDARIES, 2) STRANGE ILLNESSES, 3) BETRAYAL, DISAPPOINTMENT or DECEPTION.
Dissolution of Boundaries
Neptune dissolves our psychological and physiological boundaries through the vehicle of confusion and ambivalence which allows us to float beyond our perceived limitations. A friend said that, when Neptune crossed her Scorpio Ascendant in the 1950s, the communist government made the decision to give Hungarians passports for the first time. By some miracle, she obtained a passport and a visa that allowed her to move to England. Because it was a frightening and heroic adventure, she could not imagine doing this at any other time in her life. Although she spoke no English, she found employment with a family who greatly abused her and her ignorance of the language. They paid her less than originally promised and they found excuses to hold back even that small amount. This was also a deception/betrayal situation that always comes under “hard” aspects1 to Neptune. Amazingly, she was able to float into another job. One day she was in the park crying. Someone approached her and offered her a good job. England is now her home. She had to be in England— Neptune, via deception— took her there. Her life has been very different from the one that she would have lived if she had remained in Hungary.
Strange Illnesses
I have observed that there are general health vulnerabilities that always accompany the Neptune transit. These are:
- Low blood calcium. In women, this can cause menstrual cramping and osteoporosis
- Low blood potassium. This is a major problem! The symptoms can easily be mistaken for other ailments— joint pain, especially in the arms and the back of the neck/shoulder area, muscle spasms and cramps, fatigue and weakness in the muscles, heart fibrillations. While liquid “K-Plus” is a powerful source of potassium-magnesium, it is very expensive ($18). Sundown sells a very inexpensive supplement called Fortified or Multi-Source Potassium for $3,
- Allergies and allergic reactions to drugs and chemicals and foods,
- Lowered metabolism and difficulty metabolizing sugars,
- High blood acidity which leaves you vulnerable to colds and flu. Alkalizing the system is helpful.
- Hormonal imbalances regardless of age,
- Adrenal depletion and endocrine problems (have your doctor conduct an all-day saliva test),
- Many complained of flabbiness and poor muscle tone, especially in the area of the body ruled by the sign being afflicted by Neptune.
- Always, the immune system is lowered. In extreme cases, this can lead to degenerative diseases. If the individual is HIV positive, strong Neptune transits can trigger full blown AIDS. Olive Leaf, Wild Oregano and Peptides help the immune system. Do ask your doctor if these would interfere with any other medications that you are taking!
On April 3, 1997, under a Neptune transit, a friend developed fibromyalgia, a very common and painful ailment that has no cure or no known cause. It is becoming so common that support groups are available —(when people feel disconnected, group involvement helps.
Most health issues are vague and undefined. Often, when the transit ends, so does the undefined health issue. Always check with your doctor to make sure that it is nothing serious but, if not, it is just the Neptune transit.
Betrayal-Disappointment-Deception
Regardless of the sign that Neptune is transiting, over the years, I have always observed this pattern of betrayal-disappointment-deception. A client with Neptune squaring his Sun asked about investing $10,000 with some friends. The entire enterprise that he described sounded highly suspicious but, under Neptune, you only see what you want to see and none of the complications— whether this is a relationship, a financial situation or a business enterprise. This man also gave me a bad check! A woman with Neptune contra-parallel her 6th House Saturn believed that her supervisor was going to promote her as promised. She felt very betrayed when the promotion went to someone else. So many times, a long term friendship ends. You are changing energetically with the Neptune transit but you do not see how this is impacting the people close to you. It just seems impossible to really see what is going on with these relationships. The delusion is based upon your expecting them to be what you want them to be…and they are not!
In 1993, I could not see the anger in those around me as I was losing weight and found a new relationship. I just thought that I was doing something wrong but I had no idea what it was. The ambivalence of Neptune allowed me to tolerate the intolerable. In various situations, I felt either excluded or abandoned. In another situation, I had totally misjudged another’s character yet this person had clearly stated her “values” at the beginning of my Neptune transit. At the time, I just could not believe someone would think that way. For me, this has probably been one of the most painful aspects of Neptune transits.
The benefit of the deception— it dissolves your boundaries, your connection to a person or situation, freeing to move on in your life. Maintain ETHICS! Remember, Neptune dissolves all that is not real in our lives – just let it go! Astrologer Pat Geisler advises: Make NO choices based on “new” ethics, but only on the standards you had used all your life.
“Follow the routines you had created for yourself, accept the responsibilities that are yours without whining about it and just keep on plugging. In other words, the only way through the transit was one step at a time, refusing to veer off the chosen path and ignoring any siren songs along the way. So, I made a decision to trust that I had tried to make a good decision and not to think about it any more but to just do the job in front of me one day at a time. It really helped me get through those days.”
Through a disappointment, we can actually go beyond our boundaries, let go of restricting loyalties. When Neptune opposed Pluto in my chart, I had been writing a Sun-sign column for DC-ONE magazine. When they owed me over $500, they said that I did not have a contract with them so…no money! I felt so betrayed but this allowed me to write my column the way that I wanted to write it. It was the best thing that ever happened.
Remember, that any betrayal or disappointment is assisting us to let go and move forward in our lives— to go beyond our boundaries. There is always a specific Spirit Guide in our lives at the time of a major Neptune transit. We are not alone!
Remedies for the Neptune Transit
I feel that the Bach Remedy, CLEMATIS, saved my life in 1997. That summer I became so disconnected that I could have easily lost my grip on reality. It takes about 4 days for the effects to kick in but Clematis grounded me and it has allowed me to feel very normal. Everyone who has started to use this remedy states that they do not feel anything… until they stop taking it. Put some under your tongue every morning. Not every Neptune transit operates this way, especially if you are having Uranus or Pluto transits at the same time.
CLEMATIS (Bach): Mechthild Scheffer recommends Clematis for people “who are wanderers between the worlds. Reality does not hold much attraction for them and, whenever possible, they will withdraw from the painful present.” They manifest symptoms: Being lost in thought, absent-minded and inattentive, appears slightly confused, little reaction to events, good or bad, a floating sensation, poor memory, poor body image causing the individual to bump into things, visual or hearing problems. These people need more light and sun and yoga assists them in strengthening the etheric body.
I have personally observed that, during a Neptune transit, the etheric web thins so there is a very tenuous veil between the physical world and the astral world. Disconnectedness can be frightening, even when you understand what is going on. Clematis gently pulls one back into the physical and simply feel normal again.
NOTE: All Neptune transits can stress the adrenals. In the 1990s, a Bethesda,Maryland, doctor recommended a product by Enzymatic Therapy called RAW ADRENAL. His recommendation is to take 2 pills when you first get up and then 2 more around 11am. This is very helpful for low body temperature and allergies. I am now recommending Solaray’s ADRENAL CAPS.
There is a new book, ADRENAL FATIGUE, by James Wilson, MD. This book discusses the latest discoveries in adrenal exhaustion. The Bethesda doctor is now recommending the supplements mentioned in this book. There is another book that has been around since the 1980s on Hypothyroidism by Brota Barnes MD. This often occurs as we get older and it is indicated by low body temperature called Wilson’s Syndrome. The basic treatment for this is Armour Thyroid.
After contracting the Epstein-Barr Virus, I developed Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. My dentist gave me 30 mgs of Armour (a natural thyroid but it may not be strong enough for extreme cases). Within 3 days, my energy level soared and it gave a boost to my immune system. The blood test for the thyroid is a waste of time. Even a woman who had her thyroid removed many years earlier showed normal T levels. The 4-times-a-day Saliva Test is the best test at this time.
ADDENDUM UPDATE – PERSONAL EXPERIENCES
Neptune transiting Capricorn, an Earth sign, seemed to be the most disorienting for me personally. Now that Neptune is in Aquarius, I have not personally experienced the need to use Clematis but I know others who have found it immensely helpful. However, change through dissolving what no longer works is still the prominent feature of a strong Neptune transit.
In 2003, when Neptune in the 6th opposed Pluto in the 12th House, I had been writing a column for a upscale magazine. In writing my monthly e-column, my interpretation was tailored to the requirements of the editor. During this time, there was a change in management and, because I did not have a contract, they refused to pay me several hundred dollars. I felt so betrayed but I knew, typical of Neptune, that this was for the best. Now I could change my column and write it exactly as I wished. I was no longer limited by the editor of this magazine. This turned out to be a great boon to my column. I could be intuitive, as well as technical. The column was picked up by an Italian website. I knew that I had outgrown this magazine. My personal energies were shifting and expanding. They could no longer be contained by the magazine’s limited format.
In 2007-2008, Neptune is opposing my 12th House Mercury. I am aware that my hearing is worse but this forces me to really listen to what others are saying. Mercury in the 12th can easily tune out of a conversation that is not stimulating. I need to listen better!
I worried about losing friendships but this has not happened. I have lost them but in a very different way— retiring and moving away! Several important people in my life moved away and my beloved dentist retired. Initially, I feel lost without them yet I know that Neptune always works to our long-term benefit. With a friend moving to Arizona, this will allow me to lecture for the astrology groups there and visit my friend. We lost out ARE meeting place when she moved. I thought that this would be the end of our group. With the shift in the group’s energy, a lot of people are joining our group and we have 2 good locations to meet. This shift allowed the group to grow and expand!
With regard to retirement, I have observed that, when a client is at retirement age, strong Neptune transits can trigger their retirement. Neptune tunes out and no longer wants to work so hard. They long for something else in their life.
1 NOTE: I consider the hard aspects to be the Conjunction, Square, Opposition, Parallel and Contra-Parallel. The minor afflictions such as the 45, 135 and 150 degree aspects indicate deceptive situations that occur AROUND you but not involving you directly. With the minor afflictions, it is essential that you do not get involved with any situation that is not clear or directly involving yourself— or it will become a hard aspect!
May 1, 12:30 AM
What would you expect when Neptune transits the 8th house, including the north lunar node in Pisces? At the same time, transiting Neptune will form a trine with my natal Neptune in the 5th house in Scorpio. I’ve asked this question in several astrology discussion groups to no avail. Seems like a lot of Pisces and Scorpio stuff going on there! It’s seems so much easier to interpret other peoples charts rather than my own! Have to admit, it all sounds a little scary. And to top it all off, the transit will begin in feb. of 2012!
May 1, 12:43 PM
Neptune will be in your 8th House for at least 13 years so that Neptune itself will not produce events until it makes aspects to natal planets.
In my research with “mulit-dimensional phenomena,” the 8th House is a key factor here. So, with the trine to natal Neptune, this can be an excellent time for studies and activities connected with Spirit Guides and the utilization of your psychic abilities. When Neptune transits the 8th, it portends a spirit guide of someone whom you knew in this life (but they have since passed over). Studies in healing, especially vibrational healing, are favored.
If, during the 13 year transit, Neptune makes a difficult aspect, you must be careful with investments and where your money is tied up with another. Knowing this ahead of time can prevent any difficulty.
If the transiting Neptune makes a difficult aspect to a planet in the 11th House, there can be concern over the health of an older family member who is already in poor health.
The period from 2012-2014, as I wrote in my Pluto article on this website, will bring a fiscal crisis that thrusts us into another recession. I plan to have all of my money in long-term tax-free bonds to ride out the difficulty.
Jul 25, 05:45 AM
Hi,lynn,I feel so lucky that I find your website and read all these intelligent words. I ‘m a chinese living in Beijing and just start learning astrology last year.At present ,I’m going through neptune squaring my 8-house natal scorpion sun period.
I always have a feeling that I am more confused than almost all the people i know in self -realization road. All the people i know either settled with their life or know what their goals are. But I constantly fall in fog. After 36 years, I feel my sun just don’t shine as it should . I’m really confused and depressed by this .Does my natal 8-house Sag neptune conjucting natal sun(yet it’s a wide orb of 13.33 degree) affect my self-consciousness? Now the transiting neptune squaring my sun (which started in year 2006) makes me even more confused about my life goal.
I was forced to quit job in this April during this neptune transit when transiting sun entered my 1 house and don’t know where I should go.I could just continue the normal way,finding another job , but I’m just not willing to do so because I really don’t know what profession i want .Does everyone do have a call? Since last year, I get to know astrology, flower essence and meditation (the transit uranus is trining my sun too). I have tried clemaitis since i think it’s my type flower but its effect is not obvious.
In 2009, in my secondary progression, sun and pluto will be in square.In 2010, the uranus-jupiter conjuct will be in my 12 house and since that year the transiting saturn will conjuct my 6-house pluto, and 7-house venus,uranus ,mars one by one.In 2012,the uranus will pass my ascendant.
Lynn, could you give me some hint what call is waiting for me ?I believe in New-age ,but whether it’s an illusion again or an excuse to escape the responsibility I should have or it really means some call for me? Really appreciate it.
Jul 28, 10:51 AM
Felicia – I do not give personal readings on my website. Since you are writing about Neptune, I will only address the issue of Neptune. Also, since I do not know your birth data, I will give a very general answer.
When anyone has planets in the 8th House, it always bestows great powers of HEALING — but this healing can be physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, economic (financial advisors) and even technological (the man who created the computer system for the US postal service told me that he does not fix computers…he HEALS computers).
This area may be the new direction for you. I presume both your Sun and Neptune are in Sagittarius so that you can inspire others who may feel out of control in their own lives.
As I say in my article, Neptune dissolves and it can dissolve all that is not real in our lives. We are shifting, changing, even floating into a new direction but you are never sure where yo are going under Neptune.
There will be a passing away of people in your life but this often frees your energies to move into the new direction.
Jul 28, 08:11 PM
Thank you very much, Lynn. Actually, I’m thinking about the healing direction you mentioned.I think my scorpion sun is also a healing strength.Your words also give me strength.I’ll just put my trust in the universe and let the neptune dissolve the unreal.
I’m a little scared by this passing-away prophecy although I read some books on death and life and begin to develop a belief in reincarnation. Since I’m studying astrology now,could you tell me whether this is caused by the neptune squaring natal 8-house sun ? If the sun is not in 8 house or if it is not a square,will this phenomenon happan? Besides,can you recommend any astrologer in China you know? I want to have one to read my chart and aslo to learn from. If there’s no one in china,can you recommend someone who gives on-line course?Thank you for your patience.
Jul 30, 06:03 AM
First, the Neptune transit to a planet in the 8th House always indicates a new spiritual guide — and someone who is known to you (possibly passed away when you were younger). This Guide will be very helpful in guiding you through this transit.
Neptune transits do not always indicate a passing away of someone who you know. When it is connected to the 8th House, it is possible but not always. Do not worry about this.
This aspect opens you to subtle energies, hence, the ability and interest in healing, astrology, metaphysics and reincarnation.
There are several Online Astrology Schools. Google this and you may even find names of schools in China. I teach medical topics at the Online Astrology College. You can check here for class schedules.
I would suggest contacting www.geocosmic.org (National Council for Geocosmic Research) or
www.astrologers.com (American Federation of Astrologers).
They may know astrologers in China.
Sep 29, 08:30 PM
Hi. Lynne thanks for this article. Neptune is about to conjunct my dc in february. But I also have pluto in the fifth house about to make a conjunction to my sun/moon midpoint there….jupiter is there too about to conjunct my moon and vertex again….. should be interesting. Anyway, thanks a lot of this enlightening article. It will make me think on how to deal with things better.
Sep 30, 08:52 AM
Neptune will be in your 7th House for about 13 years. In the 7th House, it will dissolve many connections that you have presently in your life. This will actually free up your energies to move on.
Neptune rules my 8th House cusp and, due to my age, when this begins in 2014, I expect it to be a long cycle for the passing of many old friends. I learned from my mother that getting older requires Courage to stay on this planet when your friends have moved on.
A lawyer told me that her ability to size up people was non-existent while Neptune was in her 7th House. She lost a big client. She realized that the pressure to bring in business to the company was too great. So much dissolving gave her the courage to let go of her corporate work, leave the expensive DC area and move to a smaller community where she could practice law on a less complicated level. It really worked out but she never would have made this decision if it had not all dissolved around her.
Remember, Neptune dissolves all that is not real in our lives so that our energies can shift. This will only happen as Neptune aspects planets in your chart…Lynn
Dec 10, 09:45 AM
I have had Neptune transiting my 8th house conjunct Saturn (in Aquarius) the first exact conjunct I lost my beloved dog, and the most recent and I believe last conjunct a dear friend on Nov 22nd. I am doing ok, though not sure what I am supposed to be learning through these losses. The interesting thing is I have been feeling my friend’s energy very strongly and can feel her hand in certain things, like out house building project suddenly took off at full force after a lot of delays, and just had a strong feeling she has been working behind the scenes.
I also have been experiencing indirectly credit issues from my husband, and from his ex-wife fraudulently using his name, which has affected us and me even though I have excellent credit and financial issues. Its kind of weird to be affected by something like this but definitely in line with the transit.
I wonder if the losses are dissolving things I don’t need in my life (even though I miss them a lot) or what? I know with my dog she was no longer my focus since I got married and had a daughter and maybe thats why she chose to leave as she had fulfilled her role here, she did send another wonderful dog to me though afterwards.
Any insights would be appreciated. I do feel at peace with things, but both losses came out of the blue during this transit and are new things for me. I am a Leo with Cancer Asc and 8 planets/asteroids in Virgo in 3rd! Oh joy!
Dec 10, 10:06 AM
The 8th House rules all things totally beyond our control and our attitude towards these things – death, taxes and the resources of others.
First, Neptune can indicate that there is someone (or a pet) who is getting old, becoming weak and frail and a passing can be indicated – the lesson of letting go.
Second, you have strong sensory perceptions of this Beloved Pet being around you. This is the next lesson — to connect with other dimensions, to develop our intuition and to work with these energies.
The 8th House with Neptune can provide information through dreams, past life recollections and psychic messages. It is very good to cultivate your ability to work with these energies.
NOTE: I have one cat now who is getting very old. She has kidney disease. I give her IVs but I have to know when it is her time to go. This is not easy. I have taken her in twice, feeling it was “her time to go” but the Vet said, “No, let’s pump her with vitamins. This will keep her going.” — she is still going.
Next, the negative side – dishonesty, betrayal and self-delusion. If you sense that your ex-husband is doing something that can cause you harm financially, you need to act immediately. Neptune can allow you to put your head in the sand and not become “aware” until it is too late.
Neptune can delude us when we really need to take action.
Dec 11, 12:45 AM
Boy am I happy to have found your website….and very sorry I didn’t find it years ago. my birth info is 2/10/65 at 9:07 a.m. hartford Conn.
I don’t know for sure how I have deluded myself specifically, but its a habit of basically seeing the best in others, heck maybe to the exclusion of other things…think this was a normal habit of mine actually.
Dec 11, 09:34 AM
Neptune has been transiting your Fixed Configuration for several years and it will end after 2008.
However, you have Neptune in the 7th in the Fixed Pattern (T-Square) so that the problem inherently lies within yourself — Neptune in the 7th always looks for the potential in others, rather than confronting the reality of what is, and it wants to rescue others rather than working on one’s self.
A very famous psychotherapist once said,
There is no such thing as a rescuer — only 2 people vying for the victim slot.” This is a hard lesson to learn. Neptune is very tolerant because it can overlook the unplessant. The unpleasant always comes to light. Hopefully, the fog will clear when Neptune passes.
Dec 12, 01:28 AM
Thank you for your response. I was well aware of my rose colored glasses syndrome….I wasn’t aware that it went beyond romantic relationships though.
You mention that the tsquare that I have natally has been hit by neptune, and that instead of focusing on others I should be focusing on my things gotcha…..Is the one fixed sign not involved which for me is Leo in 5th somehow point me in a direction on working on self?
Dec 12, 10:46 AM
First, I have deleted the very personal information in your posts for your own privacy. It is OK to send personal information but I always delete this for the writer’s protection.
You actually do have a natural Grand Cross, if using Transpluto at 11 Leo, which I always do. I just forgot when I last wrote. But, working on the 5th House of personal creativity is a good idea. Basically, when Neptune is a problem, I look to the condition of Saturn. Your Saturn is in Pisces in the 12th House and very afflicted. The key with Saturn is to learn to SAY NO!!!
When I used to teach Esoteric Psychology (AABailey), I would advise people like yourself to wear Deep, Regal Red and listen to Wagner’s Greatest Hits — not the funeral marches — but THE ENTRANCE OF THE GODS INTO VALHALLA.
This is empowering music and it seems to work very quickly.
Deep Red can be worn as underwear if it does not go with your skin tone.
Another option is to meditate on the note A Major.
Dec 16, 12:15 AM
Thanks! I do understand about letting go of animals (I am a holistic vet myself) but its never easy when its your own. My dog that died was 8 and got hit by a car, (also was lost for a few days and we finally found out what had happened, and this was definitely very to do with Neptune) I am at peace with her passing, and did need to let go in the sense her time with me was done, but it was a shock as it was so sudden, as was losing my friend. Definitely working through it at a spiritual level is helping a lot though.
Also being proactive about my husband’s ex-wifes issues and was able to get the charges dismissed as fraud (seems since its my 8th house I have to do it or does not get done) but appreciate the insights and will continue to be pro-active with this!
Its been (and is) an interesting transit, as I am someone who has done a lot of work on myself, meditates daily, and works with past-lives, but still there are more lessons to learn, and these were not easy ones, of the 8th house. I am sure with Saturn there though they are life long lessons for me as well, being activated by the Neptune transit.
Feb 11, 11:30 PM
Hi :). im about to expierence the neptune-jupiter-chiron transit to my asc. will jupiter expand the neptune influences???? what should i be expecting from this? thank you :)
Feb 12, 08:03 AM
It is impossible to say how this alignment will affect you without looking at the entire chart and this would require a reading.
I would read my interpretation of the Jupiter-Uranus conjunction (from article) in the 1st House to get an idea how it will affect you.
Also, simply read about Neptune crossing the ASC. This will be the best clue — and Neptune always dissolves all that is not real in your life.
Next, look at Neptune’s natal House position. This shows from WHERE the changes are coming, an area of your life that will be strongly affected.
Feb 16, 10:46 PM
Dear Lynn,
First & foremost…a big thank you for sharing your knowledge so generously! What a pleasure it is to have found your website!!
I have a Leo Sun (24 degree) – Pluto (23 degree) 6th house conjunction with transiting Neptune (24 degree Aquarius) currently opposing. from the 12th house. When I read your following quote, my recent need to retire (at least for the time being) really helped me understand since I am only 55 year old:
“With regard to retirement, I have observed that, when a client is at retirement age, strong Neptune transits can trigger their retirement. Neptune tunes out and no longer wants to work so hard. They long for something else in their life. “
And adding Uranus transiting my 22 degree Pisces ascendent……I feel major shifting inner changes.
Many, many thanks again.
Please let me know if you have any local workshops or talks scheduled as I recently moved close to Silver Springs.
Namaste,
melissa
Feb 22, 07:12 PM
Dear Lynn,
I have just stumbled on your web site because I am interested in the ramifications of transiting neptune that is currently squaring with my natal Mars, which is in Scorpio in my 12th house. My natal Mars in Scorpio is conjuct my natal Saturn, I also have my Moon and Neptune in Scorpio (although my natal Neptune is in my 11th house). Greatly appreciate hearing from you on this aspect.
Cheers, Roman
Feb 22, 07:42 PM
Dear Lynn,
I am currently experiencing Neptune coming to oppose my Pluto, Venus, Mars and then my Sun-all between 26 and 29 degrees of Leo. My partner’s Sun is 26 degrees Aquarius, opposed his Pluto/Jupiter conjunction in Leo in his 6th, the Sun rules his 6th. He is also having Uranus square to his Mars conjunct Midheaven. He is currently out on permanent disability due to a recent stroke. His income has dropped by 1/3. My daughter has Neptune opposing her Moon at 25 degrees Leo. She has been experiencing insomnia and is feeling anxious and mildly depressed. So we are all in this Neptune funk.
I am finding myself feeling depleted-I am usually a VERY high energy person. I am now having trouble getting motivated- I am doing alot of day dreaming and staring into space. I am usually highly productive and driven. It is so weird for me. I had a physical recently-and everything is fine. Why does Neptune drain our energy? what can be done about it? If there is nothing physically wrong-where do the symptoms come from? This spacey-ness feels physical-but apparently is not. I fear I will just get lost in space. What is the lesson here? I am having trouble seeing this as an opportunity for spiritual transformation. I would love some insight.
Thanks in advance,
Fern
Feb 23, 02:37 PM
Roman – A Neptune transit can cause many things, as described in the article – 1) there can be a health issue with the adrenals and/or some toxicity built up since Neptune has been aspecting your Scorpio planets. This is easy to remedy with a good detox program.
2) There can be something deceptive going on around you and you may not realize this until the aspect is over. The Cadent Houses are very covert. I received bad financial advice under this aspect and it was not until it was almost over that I realized what had happened…and lost $6000…but it could have been more.
3) It can enhance receptivity and thus creativity during this period. You could feel that you sometimes “channel” creative information.
Feb 23, 07:20 PM
Dear Lynn,
Thanks for the reply. Neptune is squaring with my natal Mars, which is posited in my 12th house, but what about transiting Neptune, which is now in my 4th house, does the square have any effect on my affairs of the 4th house, or is it just transiting neptune which has the effect on my 4th house?
Regards, Roman
Feb 23, 08:43 PM
I can only answer in a very general way. This could indicate someone in the family with an addiction problem. The Houses ruled by Mars would be tied in. The 4th House also rules the place in which you work…this could be an area.
And, make your home safe as best you can from theft.
Mar 2, 04:43 PM
Lynn,
This article helped me a lot. I’m now more watchful of what’s happening to me. Right now I’m in the middle of Neptune square natal Neptune (which I understand everyone goes through: for me, natal Neptune is in the 1st house), but I’m also about to experience transiting Neptune opposing my natal Jupiter in Leo in the 10th house. All this is also going on with Uranus opposing natal Pluto and Uranus in the 10th, transiting Saturn in the 10th conjuncting the same, and squaring natal Mars in the 8th. Yeesh!
More about Neptune, though. Would this deception/betrayal cycle affect my career more than my home, since natal planets are in my 10th house and not my 4th?
Dina
Mar 3, 08:48 AM
Neptune dissolves what needs to dissolve. Where you need to move on, these matters are affected.
Consider that the 4th House rules the place where you work, your extended family. It appears that the disappointment will occur in work matters.
Mar 8, 10:32 AM
Fern – It is impossible to make any diagnosis from this scant information but I will try to make some suggestions about your health. Most of this can be obtained in this Neptune article and in my Common Cures I-II-III articles —
1- Neptune can cause hormonal imbalances, including adrenal/thyroid. Do check your body temperature. If low, it is the adrenal/thyroid. Only a hormone saliva test, usually a gynocologist gives these tests, will reveal this. Insist upon the HSTest as the blood test is useless.
Source Naturals does have a thyroid and adrenal supplement that is quite good. When I run out of Armour Thyroid (read Common Cures I), I take 4 of these pills from the health food store. Do not take adrenal supplements every day continuously — a week on and a week off is good, in waves. I have written about this in my CC articles.
2 – There could be a chemical sensitivity because Neptune can trigger allergic reactions. If you can do an allergy test, absolutely make sure the allergist gives the IGg Elisa test.
3 – Your regular doctor can give a blood test that shows all of the vitamins and nutrients in the blood. This can tell where there is a deficiency.
Neptune transits cause a thining of the etheric web (outer rim of the etheric body) and energy can be drained.
Apr 6, 08:03 PM
Hi Lynn, i had a question about neptune and jupiter and possibly chiron. My sun is at 27aqua the 11th house and neptune is approaching it in conjunction, what will that planet bring. Natally neptune is conjuncting my midheaven/venus. Later jupiter and chiron will closely aspect it as well, what could that bring? my sun isnt afflicted in anyway. Thanks
Apr 7, 09:32 AM
AARON – First, see what House Neptune is natally placed. This often tells “from where” the changes and energies are coming.
Do read this Neptune article for the health issues as these affect ALL 4th Harmonic aspects from Neptune, even the nice conjunction.
First, this aspect will dissolve some relationships. There could even be a heart health issue for someone around you. Neptune only dissoves what is not real so those you have outgrown will disappoint you. BUT, with the Jupiter-Neptune-Chiron alignment, new relationships, more expansive, will enter your life. Do exercise discrimination though as not all is real under Neptune.
Apr 8, 06:02 PM
Hi Lynn,
I feel so lucky happening onto your website and this discussion on Neptune. My data: 8/19/58, 1737 hrs Pacific Daylight savings time, El Centro, Calif.
In May I am going to be hit by bunch of transits at the same time and I am feeling fearful. I have an exact natal Neptune/moon conjunction at 2 deg Scorpio in 9th house. These are the transits coming in May: *Neptune, Chiron and Jupiter (Transiting my 1st house) will be opposing my 7th house Sun 26 Leo and trining my 9th hse natal Jupiter 26 Libra. *Pluto trans my 12th will sextile my natal neptune/moon in the 9th, trine natal pluto/mercury conj at 8th cusp. *Uranus transiting my 2nd hse will inconjunct my Sun and Jupiter at the same time creating a YOD. *Mars transiting my 3rd will trine my sun at the same time (I realize short-lived).
Saturn will sextile my midheaven, trine the 4th cusp.
I’m sorry if I have over-done it here. I fear going into LaLa Land and not seeing what is really going on and missing out on the good stuff coming. Can you cast any light here for me? Thank you so much.
DD
Apr 9, 07:41 AM
I will only address 2009, a year when you have a lot of very good aspects. Pluto trines your Mercury-Pluto and sextiles your Moon-Npetune; Uranus in the 2nd sextiles the ASC.
During the first half of 2009, Mercury sextiles Saturn in the 11th, a temporary situation that could be activated in late May but, because of the Retrograde, it is temporary.
All of these aspects are to your Beginning Planets so that 2009 will be an empowering beginning cycle for you. 2010 with Neptune opposing the Sun will be the Ending Cycle for you.
Inconjunctions are mostly annoying when you do not have strong transits during the year. They rule problems that are not your own and you need to say NO…or they become your problems. They rule events totally beyond your control.
This is an inappropriate place for your question since it is Pluto that is strong in 2009, not Neptune. This does not occur until 2010. I do not use the overlapping theory of transit interpretation since all of this overlapping makes for a muddiness in interpretation.
Your progressed Mars is just changing directions this year, turning Retrograde by progression. This is a rare event. Exercise caution around May 11 – do not speak or act impulsively as this could have financial or job ramifications.
Planets in the 1st House and triggering your Anti-Vertex demand that you focus on YOU and not others. With most of your planets onthe right side of the chart, the needs and emergencies of others always come before your own. Now you are required to focus on YOU…or the energy drain of others will make you ill.
Apr 9, 10:27 AM
Thank you Lynn
Anytime I see a hard aspect (especially oppositions) with Neptune I break a sweat! When Neptune opposed my 7th house Venus, my husband ran off with a coworker after months of lies and deception and my oldest daughter had a baby out of wedlock at the same time.
Do you think Jupiter accompanying Neptune in the opposition to my sun (or to anybody’s planets) will help the situation or hinder it?
Thank you again for your insights. They are especially timely.
DD
Apr 10, 09:01 AM
Hi Lynne,
I have natal Sun/Neptune conjunction in Sagittarius H8. It is the tightest aspect in my whole chart (9 seconds apart).
My Moon and Mars ( Mars is ruler of my Aries Asc) are both in Pisces in H12.
I tend to go with the flow alot.
Regarding health: well I’m in good shape and seem to pass health tests with flying colours. However, I’m extremely sensitive to my surroundings and seem to be able “absorb” an illness as a reaction to people and places. I have needed to be in hospital three times in my life for completely different symptoms that have worried and mystified doctors. I can show symptoms of a serious illness and then they just can’t put their finger on it because the test results don’t show anything concrete at all. So i will be discharged. Then it just seems to go away for no apparent reason.
So despite a long history of these “signs” to ill health, my actual health report shows that I’ve never been ill before.
I’m still boggled by it but also feel very thankful about it too.
I could be living in a Neptunian bubble world for I know (the kind of bubble that harder types would want to burst for me) but the truth is I absolutely like it and it suits me fine.
Nothing much wrong with Neptune in my opinion.
Moone
Apr 14, 02:22 PM
Hi Lynn,
About a month ago my 28-year-old daughter started having what she called de ja vu episodes in the shower, followed by fear, nausea and then a headache. She has had about four in the last month and they do not seem to be continuing. She says the episode starts with a feeling of deja vu, and then she says it is like she is living someone else’s deja vu, also she is remembering something but can’t quite grasp it. She says she becomes afraid, then nauseous, and then gets a headache. A strange fact is that she has them at the same time of day each time, (7:15 – 7:45 am). Another strange fact is that she is still having the deja vu feelings but she says she can stop herself from “going there.” She says her mind has to be empty, performing a chore that frees up the mind, for the deja vu to take her over. When she feels the deja vu she immediately puts her mind on something and recovers. Of course I am concerned about possible mini seizures. However, astrologically speaking transiting Neptune is 1 degree away from her moon. Her data 25 august 1980, 11:02 am, Bellflower, CA. I was wondering if this could be some kind of psychic Neptune thing? Should I insist she be evaluated by a neurologist? I was with her during one episode. She started staring down at the kitchen counter and said “I am having one.” I jumped up and ran over to her, watching her eyes and for signs of twitching. I saw nothing. Just her staring and holding the counter. She said my presence kept her from going into it deeply.
Thank you for your help.
DD
Apr 24, 09:11 AM
Yes, Neptune is parallel her 4th House Moon. Parallels are actually stronger than the conjunction…Neptune is approaching the Moon as well.
There could be some environmental substance triggering these experiences.
7-8am is the Stomach Hour … I am not saying that this is “something she ate” but the stomach may be affected by this.
May 6, 06:43 PM
Hi Lynn,
I would like to share my own personal experience about hard neptune aspects that i have felt since 1998.
Firstly, i am an aquarius in 2nd House. I have also Venus, Sun, Mars and Mercury in 2nd house. Together with this, pluto was transiting in my 12th house up to 2007.
For the last 8 years, i have experienced Neptune conjuction Moon in my 1st house and Neptune conjunction Venus and Sun in my 2nd house. Beside this, pluto forced me so hard in my 12th house during the years.
I admit that i felt dissolition of boundries, disappointments and deceptions deeply. It is because many of these hard aspect was on my second house, i felt many confusion and lost my concentration on material things and reality of life. At the begining, it was very hard for me to undertand and accept the things happening in my life, because i was expecting to have a life just like the other people. I mean working hard, earning well and having a safe life as it is supposed to be. But, throughout the years, something prevented me to follow this direction. When i try to force my self to receive those material things, i failed and failed again. I denied so long and consequently i suffered so long. After all, i have accepted defeat and let the things happen as its own way. I gave up forcing my self and began to concentrate only the satisfaction of my soul. And the miracle happened: Enlighment. Universe tought me that we are just spririts in deed. When i changed my vision about the life, neptune began to help me. Now i am just enjoying it and embracing the creativity as a gift.
In the following years, i will experience the neptune conjunction Mars and Mercury on my second house. It would be great if you can also give some information about these aspects. Actually, i am ready to accept them (because i knew very well the resisting just extending the pain) but your vision and support can make things easier.
Thanks in advance.
Jun 5, 10:13 AM
Hi Lynn,
Unbelieveble! I have a fibromialgia since 2006.. Born In Istanbul 16.02.69 (01.00 am)
Jun 5, 10:46 AM
The signature of Fibromyalgia is the Cardinal placements in your chart, gravitating to fixing crises; Mars-Neptune on the Asc causes boundary problems, problems defining boundaries for others; the Saturn-Pluto inconjunct. Please read my article on the dysfunctional Saturn on this website.
Neptune in late degrees will dissolve what you have outgrown but this is not always easy. Please re-read my Neptune article as what I could tell you is really here.
Late I will be posting an article on Empaths but Elisabeth Fitzhugh.
Jun 5, 02:01 PM
Thanks Lynn.. I am so glad I found your web..You are briliant!
I have read the saturn..It is very true.. I think I have changed since I got fibromialgia. I dont live for others anymore, my life is not easy but I have more peace in my head..Also changed my diet, doing exercies everyday taking right vitamines etc…. Still have a pain sometimes but not like use to be..In 2006 Couldnt walk but now I can function well..Even when I was stragling with pain and brain fog, I didnt give up I fallowed my dream to become an MP.. I am a parliamentary candidate now, I dont know if I will be elected or not but I wont give up untill I get there..
I hope you can see some hope in my natal chart to achieve something great..
Jun 21, 12:14 PM
Lynn,
How do you time/interpret transits to a stellium? Do you consider all of the planetary energies in the stellium to be activated at once during the transit (even if the earlier planet/s may be out of transit orb), or only the planet/s within the orb of activation that you use? For slow moving transit planets do you keep the orb of activation at only 1 or 2 degrees?
Specific example as pertains to the current Neptune activity: Neptune opposing the following Leo stellium: Sun/9 degrees, Asc/14 degrees, Venus/19 degrees, Pluto/20 degrees, South Node/21 degrees, Mercury/26 degrees.
Jun 27, 05:39 PM
DAPHNE: You have asked a very good question. First, this is a Stellium. When anyone has a Stellium, this area (House position) can absorb your entire life so it is important to “go to the opposite House.” I may have a Stellium article on my website but I foget. So, for example, if you have a Stellium in the 6th, work can take up your entire life. It is important to “go to the 12th House.” This means that you need to give yourself some alone time, to retreat and get away by yourself periodically to break up the intensity of the 6th House.
Instead of saying that, when one planet is activated, they are all activated, I would say that the influence over the House position will occur from the time Neptune enters 9 Leo 00 until it finally leaves 26 Leo 59. For you, this influence started in 2002 and it will continue through the first week of January 2011.
As my article indicates, Neptune is dissolving all that is not real in your life.
I can also portend a situation that is chaotic and deceptive from 2002 through 2010. Nothing is truly real at this time.
I also find that, as the afflicting planet nears the end of the Stellium, it is not as potent.
I have also observed that a special Spirit Guide is influencing your life during this entire period.
If a health issue commences at the beginning of the aspecting period, the individual can recover once it is over.
Jun 30, 12:27 PM
Lynn,
Thanks so much. This was very helpful and meaningful.
I have spent much astrological study absorbed with Pluto. I feel now after reading your Neptune transit info that I had underestimated the opportunity presented by Neptune during this time. (2002-present-2011)
I think having this 2009 triple conjunction as part of the final stage of the Neptune transit affords a great opportunity for a number of breakthroughs.
Now that Neptune has my attention, I’ll be headed out to pick up some Clematis today!
Thanks again,
Regards, Daphne