Neptune transits
There are 3 issues symbolized by Neptune that I will address using the examples submitted by readers. These issues are: 1) DISSOLUTION OF BOUNDARIES, 2) STRANGE ILLNESSES, 3) BETRAYAL, DISAPPOINTMENT or DECEPTION.
Dissolution of Boundaries
Neptune dissolves our psychological and physiological boundaries through the vehicle of confusion and ambivalence which allows us to float beyond our perceived limitations. A friend said that, when Neptune crossed her Scorpio Ascendant in the 1950s, the communist government made the decision to give Hungarians passports for the first time. By some miracle, she obtained a passport and a visa that allowed her to move to England. Because it was a frightening and heroic adventure, she could not imagine doing this at any other time in her life. Although she spoke no English, she found employment with a family who greatly abused her and her ignorance of the language. They paid her less than originally promised and they found excuses to hold back even that small amount. This was also a deception/betrayal situation that always comes under “hard” aspects1 to Neptune. Amazingly, she was able to float into another job. One day she was in the park crying. Someone approached her and offered her a good job. England is now her home. She had to be in England— Neptune, via deception— took her there. Her life has been very different from the one that she would have lived if she had remained in Hungary.
Strange Illnesses
I have observed that there are general health vulnerabilities that always accompany the Neptune transit. These are:
- Low blood calcium. In women, this can cause menstrual cramping and osteoporosis
- Low blood potassium. This is a major problem! The symptoms can easily be mistaken for other ailments— joint pain, especially in the arms and the back of the neck/shoulder area, muscle spasms and cramps, fatigue and weakness in the muscles, heart fibrillations. While liquid “K-Plus” is a powerful source of potassium-magnesium, it is very expensive ($18). Sundown sells a very inexpensive supplement called Fortified or Multi-Source Potassium for $3,
- Allergies and allergic reactions to drugs and chemicals and foods,
- Lowered metabolism and difficulty metabolizing sugars,
- High blood acidity which leaves you vulnerable to colds and flu. Alkalizing the system is helpful.
- Hormonal imbalances regardless of age,
- Adrenal depletion and endocrine problems (have your doctor conduct an all-day saliva test),
- Many complained of flabbiness and poor muscle tone, especially in the area of the body ruled by the sign being afflicted by Neptune.
- Always, the immune system is lowered. In extreme cases, this can lead to degenerative diseases. If the individual is HIV positive, strong Neptune transits can trigger full blown AIDS. Olive Leaf, Wild Oregano and Peptides help the immune system. Do ask your doctor if these would interfere with any other medications that you are taking!
On April 3, 1997, under a Neptune transit, a friend developed fibromyalgia, a very common and painful ailment that has no cure or no known cause. It is becoming so common that support groups are available —(when people feel disconnected, group involvement helps.
Most health issues are vague and undefined. Often, when the transit ends, so does the undefined health issue. Always check with your doctor to make sure that it is nothing serious but, if not, it is just the Neptune transit.
Betrayal-Disappointment-Deception
Regardless of the sign that Neptune is transiting, over the years, I have always observed this pattern of betrayal-disappointment-deception. A client with Neptune squaring his Sun asked about investing $10,000 with some friends. The entire enterprise that he described sounded highly suspicious but, under Neptune, you only see what you want to see and none of the complications— whether this is a relationship, a financial situation or a business enterprise. This man also gave me a bad check! A woman with Neptune contra-parallel her 6th House Saturn believed that her supervisor was going to promote her as promised. She felt very betrayed when the promotion went to someone else. So many times, a long term friendship ends. You are changing energetically with the Neptune transit but you do not see how this is impacting the people close to you. It just seems impossible to really see what is going on with these relationships. The delusion is based upon your expecting them to be what you want them to be…and they are not!
In 1993, I could not see the anger in those around me as I was losing weight and found a new relationship. I just thought that I was doing something wrong but I had no idea what it was. The ambivalence of Neptune allowed me to tolerate the intolerable. In various situations, I felt either excluded or abandoned. In another situation, I had totally misjudged another’s character yet this person had clearly stated her “values” at the beginning of my Neptune transit. At the time, I just could not believe someone would think that way. For me, this has probably been one of the most painful aspects of Neptune transits.
The benefit of the deception— it dissolves your boundaries, your connection to a person or situation, freeing to move on in your life. Maintain ETHICS! Remember, Neptune dissolves all that is not real in our lives – just let it go! Astrologer Pat Geisler advises: Make NO choices based on “new” ethics, but only on the standards you had used all your life.
“Follow the routines you had created for yourself, accept the responsibilities that are yours without whining about it and just keep on plugging. In other words, the only way through the transit was one step at a time, refusing to veer off the chosen path and ignoring any siren songs along the way. So, I made a decision to trust that I had tried to make a good decision and not to think about it any more but to just do the job in front of me one day at a time. It really helped me get through those days.”
Through a disappointment, we can actually go beyond our boundaries, let go of restricting loyalties. When Neptune opposed Pluto in my chart, I had been writing a Sun-sign column for DC-ONE magazine. When they owed me over $500, they said that I did not have a contract with them so…no money! I felt so betrayed but this allowed me to write my column the way that I wanted to write it. It was the best thing that ever happened.
Remember, that any betrayal or disappointment is assisting us to let go and move forward in our lives— to go beyond our boundaries. There is always a specific Spirit Guide in our lives at the time of a major Neptune transit. We are not alone!
Remedies for the Neptune Transit
I feel that the Bach Remedy, CLEMATIS, saved my life in 1997. That summer I became so disconnected that I could have easily lost my grip on reality. It takes about 4 days for the effects to kick in but Clematis grounded me and it has allowed me to feel very normal. Everyone who has started to use this remedy states that they do not feel anything… until they stop taking it. Put some under your tongue every morning. Not every Neptune transit operates this way, especially if you are having Uranus or Pluto transits at the same time.
CLEMATIS (Bach): Mechthild Scheffer recommends Clematis for people “who are wanderers between the worlds. Reality does not hold much attraction for them and, whenever possible, they will withdraw from the painful present.” They manifest symptoms: Being lost in thought, absent-minded and inattentive, appears slightly confused, little reaction to events, good or bad, a floating sensation, poor memory, poor body image causing the individual to bump into things, visual or hearing problems. These people need more light and sun and yoga assists them in strengthening the etheric body.
I have personally observed that, during a Neptune transit, the etheric web thins so there is a very tenuous veil between the physical world and the astral world. Disconnectedness can be frightening, even when you understand what is going on. Clematis gently pulls one back into the physical and simply feel normal again.
NOTE: All Neptune transits can stress the adrenals. In the 1990s, a Bethesda,Maryland, doctor recommended a product by Enzymatic Therapy called RAW ADRENAL. His recommendation is to take 2 pills when you first get up and then 2 more around 11am. This is very helpful for low body temperature and allergies. I am now recommending Solaray’s ADRENAL CAPS.
There is a new book, ADRENAL FATIGUE, by James Wilson, MD. This book discusses the latest discoveries in adrenal exhaustion. The Bethesda doctor is now recommending the supplements mentioned in this book. There is another book that has been around since the 1980s on Hypothyroidism by Brota Barnes MD. This often occurs as we get older and it is indicated by low body temperature called Wilson’s Syndrome. The basic treatment for this is Armour Thyroid.
After contracting the Epstein-Barr Virus, I developed Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. My dentist gave me 30 mgs of Armour (a natural thyroid but it may not be strong enough for extreme cases). Within 3 days, my energy level soared and it gave a boost to my immune system. The blood test for the thyroid is a waste of time. Even a woman who had her thyroid removed many years earlier showed normal T levels. The 4-times-a-day Saliva Test is the best test at this time.
ADDENDUM UPDATE – PERSONAL EXPERIENCES
Neptune transiting Capricorn, an Earth sign, seemed to be the most disorienting for me personally. Now that Neptune is in Aquarius, I have not personally experienced the need to use Clematis but I know others who have found it immensely helpful. However, change through dissolving what no longer works is still the prominent feature of a strong Neptune transit.
In 2003, when Neptune in the 6th opposed Pluto in the 12th House, I had been writing a column for a upscale magazine. In writing my monthly e-column, my interpretation was tailored to the requirements of the editor. During this time, there was a change in management and, because I did not have a contract, they refused to pay me several hundred dollars. I felt so betrayed but I knew, typical of Neptune, that this was for the best. Now I could change my column and write it exactly as I wished. I was no longer limited by the editor of this magazine. This turned out to be a great boon to my column. I could be intuitive, as well as technical. The column was picked up by an Italian website. I knew that I had outgrown this magazine. My personal energies were shifting and expanding. They could no longer be contained by the magazine’s limited format.
In 2007-2008, Neptune is opposing my 12th House Mercury. I am aware that my hearing is worse but this forces me to really listen to what others are saying. Mercury in the 12th can easily tune out of a conversation that is not stimulating. I need to listen better!
I worried about losing friendships but this has not happened. I have lost them but in a very different way— retiring and moving away! Several important people in my life moved away and my beloved dentist retired. Initially, I feel lost without them yet I know that Neptune always works to our long-term benefit. With a friend moving to Arizona, this will allow me to lecture for the astrology groups there and visit my friend. We lost out ARE meeting place when she moved. I thought that this would be the end of our group. With the shift in the group’s energy, a lot of people are joining our group and we have 2 good locations to meet. This shift allowed the group to grow and expand!
With regard to retirement, I have observed that, when a client is at retirement age, strong Neptune transits can trigger their retirement. Neptune tunes out and no longer wants to work so hard. They long for something else in their life.
1 NOTE: I consider the hard aspects to be the Conjunction, Square, Opposition, Parallel and Contra-Parallel. The minor afflictions such as the 45, 135 and 150 degree aspects indicate deceptive situations that occur AROUND you but not involving you directly. With the minor afflictions, it is essential that you do not get involved with any situation that is not clear or directly involving yourself— or it will become a hard aspect!

May 1, 12:43 PM EIGHTH HOUSE:
In my research with “mulit-dimensional phenomena,” the 8th House is a key factor here. So, with the trine to natal Neptune, this can be an excellent time for studies and activities connected with Spirit Guides and the utilization of your psychic abilities. When Neptune transits the 8th, it portends a spirit guide of someone whom you knew in this life (but they have since passed over). Studies in healing, especially vibrational healing, are favored.
If, during the 13 year transit, Neptune makes a difficult aspect, you must be careful with investments and where your money is tied up with another. Knowing this ahead of time can prevent any difficulty.
If the transiting Neptune makes a difficult aspect to a planet in the 11th House, there can be concern over the health of an older family member who is already in poor health.
The period from 2012-2015, as I wrote in my Pluto article on this website, will bring a fiscal crisis that thrusts us into another recession. I plan to have all of my money in long-term tax-free bonds to ride out the difficulty.
Jul 28, 10:51 AM EIGHTH HOUSE:
When anyone has planets in the 8th House, it always bestows great powers of HEALING — but this healing can be physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, economic (financial advisors) and even technological (the man who created the computer system for the US postal service told me that he does not fix computers…he HEALS computers).
As I say in my article, Neptune dissolves and it can dissolve all that is not real in our lives. We are shifting, changing, even floating into a new direction but you are never sure where yo are going under Neptune.
There will be a passing away of people in your life but this often frees your energies to move into the new direction.
Jul 28, 08:11 PM
Thank you very much, Lynn. Actually, I’m thinking about the healing direction you mentioned.I think my scorpion sun is also a healing strength.Your words also give me strength.I’ll just put my trust in the universe and let the neptune dissolve the unreal.
I’m a little scared by this passing-away prophecy although I read some books on death and life and begin to develop a belief in reincarnation. Since I’m studying astrology now,could you tell me whether this is caused by the neptune squaring natal 8-house sun ? If the sun is not in 8 house or if it is not a square,will this phenomenon happan? Besides,can you recommend any astrologer in China you know? I want to have one to read my chart and aslo to learn from. If there’s no one in china,can you recommend someone who gives on-line course?Thank you for your patience.
Jul 30, 06:03 AM
First, the Neptune transit to a planet in the 8th House always indicates a new spiritual guide — and someone who is known to you (possibly passed away when you were younger). This Guide will be very helpful in guiding you through this transit.
Neptune transits do not always indicate a passing away of someone who you know. When it is connected to the 8th House, it is possible but not always. Do not worry about this.
This aspect opens you to subtle energies, hence, the ability and interest in healing, astrology, metaphysics and reincarnation.
There are several Online Astrology Schools. Google this and you may even find names of schools in China. I teach medical topics at the Online Astrology College. You can check here for class schedules.
I would suggest contacting www.geocosmic.org (National Council for Geocosmic Research) or
www.astrologers.com (American Federation of Astrologers).
They may know astrologers in China.
Sep 30, 08:52 AM SEVENTH HOUSE TRANSIT:
Neptune will be in your 7th House for about 13 years. In the 7th House, it will dissolve many connections that you have presently in your life. This will actually free up your energies to move on.
Neptune rules my 8th House cusp and, due to my age, when this begins in 2014, I expect it to be a long cycle for the passing of many old friends. I learned from my mother that getting older requires Courage to stay on this planet when your friends have moved on.
A lawyer told me that her ability to size up people was non-existent while Neptune was in her 7th House. She lost a big client. She realized that the pressure to bring in business to the company was too great. So much dissolving gave her the courage to let go of her corporate work, leave the expensive DC area and move to a smaller community where she could practice law on a less complicated level. It really worked out but she never would have made this decision if it had not all dissolved around her.
Remember, Neptune dissolves all that is not real in our lives so that our energies can shift. This will only happen as Neptune aspects planets in your chart…Lynn
Dec 10, 10:06 AM
The 8th House rules all things totally beyond our control and our attitude towards these things – death, taxes and the resources of others.
First, Neptune can indicate that there is someone (or a pet) who is getting old, becoming weak and frail and a passing can be indicated – the lesson of letting go.
Second, you have strong sensory perceptions of this Beloved Pet being around you. This is the next lesson — to connect with other dimensions, to develop our intuition and to work with these energies.
The 8th House with Neptune can provide information through dreams, past life recollections and psychic messages. It is very good to cultivate your ability to work with these energies.
NOTE: I have one cat now who is getting very old. She has kidney disease. I give her IVs but I have to know when it is her time to go. This is not easy. I have taken her in twice, feeling it was “her time to go” but the Vet said, “No, let’s pump her with vitamins. This will keep her going.” — she is still going.
Next, the negative side – dishonesty, betrayal and self-delusion. If you sense that your ex-husband is doing something that can cause you harm financially, you need to act immediately. Neptune can allow you to put your head in the sand and not become “aware” until it is too late.
Neptune can delude us when we really need to take action.
Dec 11, 09:34 AM NATAL NEPTUNE IN 7th: ...you have Neptune in the 7th in the Fixed Pattern (T-Square) natally so that the problem inherently lies within yourself — Neptune in the 7th always looks for the potential in others, rather than confronting the reality of what is, and it wants to rescue others rather than working on one’s self.
A very famous psychotherapist once said,
There is no such thing as a rescuer — only 2 people vying for the victim slot.” This is a hard lesson to learn. Neptune is very tolerant because it can overlook the unplessant. The unpleasant always comes to light. Hopefully, the fog will clear when Neptune passes.
Dec 12, 10:46 AM EMPOWERING THRU VIBRATION: Basically, when Neptune is a problem, I look to the condition of Saturn. Your Saturn is in Pisces in the 12th House and very afflicted. The key with Saturn is to learn to SAY NO!!!
When I used to teach Esoteric Psychology (AABailey), I would advise people like yourself to wear Deep, Regal Red and listen to Wagner’s Greatest Hits — not the funeral marches — but THE ENTRANCE OF THE GODS INTO VALHALLA.
This is empowering music and it seems to work very quickly.
Deep Red can be worn as underwear if it does not go with your skin tone.
Another option is to meditate on the note A Major.
Mar 8, 10:32 AM
Fern – It is impossible to make any diagnosis from this scant information but I will try to make some suggestions about your health. Most of this can be obtained in this Neptune article and in my Common Cures I-II-III articles —
1- Neptune can cause hormonal imbalances, including adrenal/thyroid. Do check your body temperature. If low, it is the adrenal/thyroid. Only a hormone saliva test, usually a gynocologist gives these tests, will reveal this. Insist upon the HSTest as the blood test is useless.
Source Naturals does have a thyroid and adrenal supplement that is quite good. When I run out of Armour Thyroid (read Common Cures I), I take 4 of these pills from the health food store. Do not take adrenal supplements every day continuously — a week on and a week off is good, in waves. I have written about this in my CC articles.
2 – There could be a chemical sensitivity because Neptune can trigger allergic reactions. If you can do an allergy test, absolutely make sure the allergist gives the IGg Elisa test.
3 – Your regular doctor can give a blood test that shows all of the vitamins and nutrients in the blood. This can tell where there is a deficiency.
Neptune transits cause a thining of the etheric web (outer rim of the etheric body) and energy can be drained.
Apr 7, 09:32 AM First, see what House Neptune is natally placed. This often tells “from where” the changes and energies are coming.
Do read this Neptune article for the health issues as these affect ALL 4th Harmonic aspects from Neptune, even the nice conjunction.
First, this aspect will dissolve some relationships. There could even be a heart health issue for someone around you. Neptune only dissoves what is not real so those you have outgrown will disappoint you. BUT, with the Jupiter-Neptune-Chiron alignment, new relationships, more expansive, will enter your life. Do exercise discrimination though as not all is real under Neptune.
Jun 5, 10:13 AM
Hi Lynn,
Unbelieveble! I have a fibromialgia since 2006.. Born In Istanbul 16.02.69 (01.00 am)
Jun 5, 10:46 AM
The signature of Fibromyalgia is the Cardinal placements in your chart, gravitating to fixing crises; Mars-Neptune on the Asc causes boundary problems, problems defining boundaries for others; the Saturn-Pluto inconjunct. Please read my article on the dysfunctional Saturn on this website.
Neptune in late degrees will dissolve what you have outgrown but this is not always easy. Please re-read my Neptune article as what I could tell you is really here.
Late I will be posting an article on Empaths but Elisabeth Fitzhugh.
Jun 21, 12:14 PM
Lynn,
How do you time/interpret transits to a stellium? Do you consider all of the planetary energies in the stellium to be activated at once during the transit (even if the earlier planet/s may be out of transit orb), or only the planet/s within the orb of activation that you use? For slow moving transit planets do you keep the orb of activation at only 1 or 2 degrees?
Specific example as pertains to the current Neptune activity: Neptune opposing the following Leo stellium: Sun/9 degrees, Asc/14 degrees, Venus/19 degrees, Pluto/20 degrees, South Node/21 degrees, Mercury/26 degrees.
Jun 27, 05:39 PM
DAPHNE: You have asked a very good question. First, this is a Stellium. When anyone has a Stellium, this area (House position) can absorb your entire life so it is important to “go to the opposite House.” I may have a Stellium article on my website but I foget. So, for example, if you have a Stellium in the 6th, work can take up your entire life. It is important to “go to the 12th House.” This means that you need to give yourself some alone time, to retreat and get away by yourself periodically to break up the intensity of the 6th House.
Instead of saying that, when one planet is activated, they are all activated, I would say that the influence over the House position will occur from the time Neptune enters 9 Leo 00 until it finally leaves 26 Leo 59. For you, this influence started in 2002 and it will continue through the first week of January 2011.
As my article indicates, Neptune is dissolving all that is not real in your life.
I can also portend a situation that is chaotic and deceptive from 2002 through 2010. Nothing is truly real at this time.
I also find that, as the afflicting planet nears the end of the Stellium, it is not as potent.
I have also observed that a special Spirit Guide is influencing your life during this entire period.
If a health issue commences at the beginning of the aspecting period, the individual can recover once it is over.
Sep 8, 08:42 AM
This article gives cures for the low energy. These suggestions can be very helpful as the adrenals are often fatigued with this transit. Food intolerances can be a problem too, draining energy.
Saying that you should work on spirituality under Neptune is not helpful. I am old and I have lived through many Neptune transits. This article tells you what happens
I have had people in business be on the alert for deception and they both saved their business and turned a hefty profit.
In the chart for a client in the Middle East, I gave him a description of someone who was cheating him. He said it described his company manager but “he could not possibly cheat me” — and he did … millions! If he had heeded my warning, he would have done much better.
We experience deception when we put our heads in the sand and refuse to see the truth about those around us.
We all stick our heads in the sand so do not feel that you failed in this matter.
When Neptune opposed my Venus, I could not believe that my best friend was no longer my friend…but this happened.
In actuality, when this happened, I had outgrown the situation and it was time to move on. Neptune dissolves all that is not real in the life.
In 2009-10-11, Neptune is transiting the Late Degrees of Aquarius and it will aspect the Ending Planets in a natal chart, denoting an Ending Cycle when many situations will dissolve in our lives.
My Manual on Beginning and Ending Planets is for sale on this website.
Sep 9, 01:27 AM
Thank you for acknowledging the truth of this transit (how appropriate). Even now as I read what I wrote, I did not want to acknowledge how devastating and exhausting this transit has been. I think I was truly holding on the whole “spiritual awakening” – when it has been in many ways a spiritual dissolution, crisis, overwhelm. Now in retrospect, I can see many examples in the last few yrs where I have allowed myself to be deceived and have been self-deceptive.
I went back and read your article, especially on how to address the low energy….I was actually wondering until lately if I was sick. I usually run 3-4 days/wk, 2 and half miles or more…since this transit, I am lucky to get in 2 days a wk…and even w/ enough rest, I feel exhausted BEFORE running and not energized afterwards. Recently, since about late July, my energy has improved, but I am going to follow your suggestions and will order your manual on the Ending Planets in a natal chart at the end of the week.
Thank you,
Lourdes
P.S. Your article on the psychological vampires has been so helpful too. I now realize I went into this Neptune-Sun transit after an experience w/ an individual who was a vampire (during my Pluto square Pluto) and my progressed Moon in Scorpio. I also experienced much loss (3 deaths). After reading your article I see that my mother was a vampire, and although I don’t have the Mars-Neptune aspect in my chart, I have Venus square Neptune, w/ Pluto in my 7th. Additionally, progressed Jupiter and Neptune are conjunct in my 7th house. Interestingly enough, this summer my relationship w/ my mother broke off – which is a good thing actually – and was her choice after my sisters and I confronted her w/ some difficult truths.
I also emailed Janet re: her article. I am looking forward to healing and feel much more prepared and validated with your words (my progressed Moon is in Sag now, in my 7th soon to enter the 8th). Thank you!
Sep 9, 08:19 AM
Lourdes – Thank you for your respond and it is one from which others may benefit.
Glad you liked the Vampire article. People either love it, because they have been with a Vampire, or they criticize it because they are themselves Vampires…and Vampires do not like to have the light shed on them.
Many are relieved that it is not THEM…but they have been with a Vampire.
I see that my Manual is not posted on my website. Molly will have it up soon. A PDF file is only $12. You can order something on PayPal now for $12 and I will send you the PDF file right away. I do plan to update it in the future and, when I do, I can send the update for free as a PDF.
Dec 6, 07:07 AM
EMPATH ENERGY: If you Google Orion Wisdom, you may come up with a friend’s website and she has a fantastic article on Empaths. I would like to post it here. This is always intensified with Neptune transits.
Eating meat is very grounding and this may be sounding that you needed under the influence of Neptune. Red meat can dull the Solar Plexus receptivity.
JUPITER-NEPTUNE-CHIRON: At first, I did not think that it did much but I did formulate a vision for 2010 — Global Gatherings where people around the world can tune in (such as Skype) and hear me interview astrologers in Europe, or anywhere for that matter. Right now, it is just a vision but I have lined up the astrologers to interview.
Jan 4, 10:59 PM Edited:
I am a bit concerned at the moment as I have Neptune coming up to a Square with my Scorpio Ascendant.
I am also 5months pregnant with my first child and Neptune is transiting my 4th house, though natally I have it in my 1st house. Also about one month after the birth of my child I will have Neptune coming within 0.7 degrees of Squaring My Sun in Taurus.
Jan 6, 11:46 AM
It is important — for both you and your child — that you feel grounded during and after pregnancy. I suggest the Bach Flower Remedy, Clamatis, taken daily to help with this.
Neptune itself would not cause pregnancy problems so do not worry about this.
Neptune is the Crisis of Disconnectedness and this is a most uncomfortable feeling. Follow the suggestions in the article. Feeling grounded now will help develop and strengthen your unborn child’s etheric body.
While you are under the Neptune transit, after the child is born, do a lot of close cuddling. The child will sense when you have just tuned out and you must practice connectedness with your baby….before and after birth.
May 29, 05:28 AM
Hi Lynn,
I have my natal moon at 1’21 Pisces 12th House, so Neptune is about to transit it. My moon is the apex of a T-square with Sun/Neptune in Sagittarius and Saturn in Gemini. From what you are describing above it feels as if T Neptune is already here although it is only at 28 Aquarius currently. As Chiron has just entered Pisces I’m not sure whether what I’m experiencing is more from that transit… they seem too similar.
I’m listless and unclear in general. Hours pass and I’m not aware of how much time has gone by and my emotions are, at best, a little fragmented and confused. I get alot of invitations to events and places but I’d rather pass up and stay at home. Deep down I want something to change and I want to grow spiritually.The best part is I’ve gotten really into oil painting but it all depends on my mood. With plenty of responsibilities I’m not sure if I should go with the flow or shake myself up in order to manage tasks. I prefer to be on top of things usually.
As someone with a tight Sun/Neptune conjunction in my birth chart I thought I knew Neptune well. Now I’m not so sure.
With Chiron and Neptune so close together should this transit be more difficult/different?
Thanks
May 30, 10:49 PM
After reading this I’ve thought to myself if what I had come to be aware of was due to heightened perception or just the hard knocks I’ve experienced this past year. Natally, I have Neptune in Capricorn at 0 degrees, sitting near the cusp of my 6th house. I think the beginning of Pluto’s transit through Capricorn occured at the time I lost my job in 2009. At the same time, an eclipse near my ASC in Cancer at 28 degrees happened, again near the time I lost my job of 3 years. After that summer’s event I thought a lot about what was going on. For 2 months prior to that summer I had sensed that I was being deceived. Underhanded tactics were being used to find an excuse to fire me; the catalyst was an unknown woman who was driving recklessly. Natally, Neptune is applying a square, though not a tight orb to my Moon in Aries which sits at the MC. The person who was involved in the behind-the-scenes “investigation” into what happened to me that day was female and her Sun in Cancer sits in my 12th house. I worked so hard to accomplish something, being a single woman and living by myself. I cared a lot about what I did for a living, though I see now that I could’ve done much better for myself. I was being ignored on the job, separated from team mates and generally isolated until all ties were finally broken. I felt so relieved yet at the same time I realized how drained I became of all energy. I pushed hard to gain some justice and waited patiently until I found a break to just rest. Since then I’ve received a chance to finally let go of the past, through rigorous application of getting to the bottom of things. I understand now that under Neptune’s transit, even with hard aspects to Neptune natally can cause one to feel right, yet wrong at the same time. For a long time I’ve wanted to stick with a career in the creative/healing arts. My love is writing, but I also love visual art so for awhile I’ve been wanting to paint in oils; refabricating dreams I’ve had and their symbols, most of which have happened during this transit through Aquarius.
This article has inspired me to articulate any understanding I have gained of my experiences thus far and that of astrology, which has helped me a lot. I’ll have to read the article about dealing with a ‘vampire’. I get the feeling that, after the eclipse in 2008 which hit my Progressed ASC/DSC axis and my Natal Sun in Aquarius on the cusp of the 7th/8th house severed my long-time relationship with someone who had drained me financially and left me feeling alone. This event also hit his Natal Nodes in Leo/Aquarius. During Neptune’s transit in Aquarius, this person had more than once tried to deceive me into thinking that he still loved me and even tried coming back. I knew something was up and I’m glad I paid attention. He had already been seeing someone else in another state, far too young for him to be with and now they have a child. Someone else on here also said that they cut off ties with their mother which is what I have also done in the past 5 months. Realizing that my mother’s influence had a negative impact due to the intimate relationships I was attracting and how our roles were played out, I have to nurture myself on my own. My mother was not able to be the nurturing type and was quite controlling and restrictive upon my feelings and identity, not to mention manipulative at times with her offer of being the parent I needed. With no father around and a step-father equally distant and whom I felt to be slightly under-handed in the dynamics of her household, letting go meant I’ve felt more like an adult and less of a confused and punished kid.
What I seek now is a firm foundation with inner security and the chance to make things stable. I hope that I’m able to find employment soon and that the person I’ve been dating since the beginning of February is the start of a relationship that I can trust and believe in. I’m not sure if I should leave my birth info here, but advice is always appreciated.
Jun 11, 10:58 AM
MOONE: As you know, it is impossible to give personal readings on my website but I gladly answer questions that would be of generalinformation to readers.
Neptune will transit your T-Square from 2012 through 2013 — 0 through 3 degrees. Whenever Neptune transits a Cadent House (here, the 12th), you may not always be aware of what is going on so it is important to document and, if it seems to good to be true, it is.
Neptune always opens us up to Spirit Guide influences, starting in March 2012. The Water Houses always indicate a connection with Multi-Dimensional realities. Discerning the different between Thee-and-Me is going to be important.
Later, I will be putting up a series of articles on Empaths. Read this. It is an important article. It can be found at
www.orionwisdom.com Elisabeth is a good friend and this material has been helpful to many.
Not connected with your chart exactly, I find that, when I am lethargic, my Higher Self is active on other realms. When the work is done, I am find. Empaths are often senstive to this.
Chiron transits mark a time when we need to make decisions based upon intuition, following one’s Heart, rather than doing what we have always done in the past.
Jun 15, 02:37 AM
Thank you Lynn,
Yes, I found this description of Empaths to be an accurate portrayal of me. Looking forward to further reading on this subject.
For anyone else interested the link is here:
http://www.orionwisdom.org/page4.html#Empath_Energy
Jun 25, 11:19 PM
thanks for the article. Very timely and informative. I am going to try the bach flower remedies of clematis and mimosa twice a day.
Danielle, on May 18 1125am, I am going through the same thing in my life, trust me. I just want the pain and confusion to go away. I’m an Aquarius sun, Scorpio moon and it’s not a good feeling for me. It’s highly aggravating. This one of the worst transits ever. I can’t wait for it to end. I have been reading Lynn Koiner’s article and it’s helping me deal with things during this time. The tips have helped me gain some clarity and a bit of peace. Heal and rest.
Aug 30, 08:51 PM
Lynn, greatly appreciate your advice. When you say that early degree planets should tell me how the new cycle should begin, do I look at my natal planets or transits? I have my natal Jupiter 0 degrees 50 minutes in Libra my 10th house, natal Neptune 0 degrees 15 minutes in Scorpio my 11th house, and natal Uranus 0 degrees 53 minutes in Leo my 9th house? I think transiting Pluto could apply because next year it shall enter my 2nd house?
Aug 31, 07:04 AM
PETER: All of those planets are your beginning planets. It often indicates that you have not spent a lot of time on planet earth and, with the outers, you have not spent a lot of time in modern history. You could have been working on “the other side” transmitting and developing ideas to be picked up by those of us on earth.
Uranus will enter 0 Aries and aspect Jupiter and Uranus; Neptune will enter 0 Virgo and aspect Neptune…another beginning cycle for you.
Sep 7, 09:04 PM
Hi Lynn,
When you suggested flower essences Clematis and Mimosa for energetic support, did you mean Mimulus rather than Mimosa? I really enjoy using flower essences but I am not familiar with Mimosa.
I’m experiencing tNeptune conjuncting my nVenus (11th), while tPluto is moving into a square with nPluto (6th); tSaturn square nSaturn (3rd) is separating and next tSaturn conjuncts nPluto (6th). Natal Neptune is in the 8th.
Any ideas on flower essences when Neptune transits are happening while Pluto and Saturn are also making hard aspects?
I’ve been feeling the empathic energy heightened (thank you for posting an article on the forum), lethargy, foggy-headedness, confusion, fantasies around potential love partners/disappointment with current relationships, adrenal issues, dep/anx/fear, low self-esteem, lots of clearing out of old habits, intense self-inquiry and chronic liver/gallbladder digestive issues. It’s been quite a full plate!
Sep 7, 10:06 PM
Hi again,
I went to try and look up Mimosa flower essence on the web and while I didn’t find the essence I did see a picture of them…I used to call these “the sensitives” because of the way the leaves immediately fold up when you touch them and their delicate pink flowers. I loved them. They grew all over my backyard in Hawaii I just never knew what they were called! Seems like a perfect example of Neptune sensitivity…Pluto was transiting my nNeptune in the 8th when I lived there.
Sep 8, 08:27 AM
AMY: To my readers, Amy has posted a medical question on my Medical Forum which I hope to complete soon.
Yes, the Bach Flower Essence is indeed Mimulus for gently pulling you back into your body during a Neptune Transit.
When other transits occur, such as Pluto, this sometimes helps with the grounding.
When there are planets in the Water Houses (4-8-12), especially Neptune, there is a powerful connection with multi-dimensional realities — the veil between the seen and unseen is extremely tenuous. “Is this me or something else that I am picking up?” This sensing can cause anxiety when one does not know from where the feeling is coming.
The information on Empath Energy may help. A black tourmoline crystal carried around the body can block negative energy (it will eventually crumble when it becomes overloaded with negative energy).
With Neptune tansiting the Grand Air Trine, training one’s self in the handling of these energies — such as healing — might help.
Oct 9, 04:58 PM
Hi
I am having neptune and chiron square venus transit (neptune going through 12th house) to my Venus 28 degrees in Scorpio in 9th with Chiron squaring and Uranus/jupiter trining her for good measure. She is definitely getting a workout.
If I was just to listen to Robert Hands interpretation of it, then I would be resigned to my relationship go to hell in handbasket!It is really bringing up a whole load of old early childhood stuff which in true Neptunian style I am projecting on to my current relationship. I am conscious of the projections and instead of acting them out I am trying work through them with a partner who has enough awareness not to act in to my stuff. Grief, abandonnment, betrayal, paranoia and suspicion* are all part of the picture.
Being emotionally porous I realised today that I probably took on alot of feelings from the adults around me when I was a child. What did my mother feel when she knew my father was having an affair and later left to be with this woman? Probably all of the above *!
With, as I said, Neptune going through my 12th, pisces rising trine Neptune natally,progressed Sun in pisces in 12th I am certainly sloshing around with lots of watery stuff.
I am doing Qi gong which helps with invisible energies and looks pretty weird amd wacky but definitely helps keep me from being washed away in my constant need to be responsive.
I am suffering from alot of trembling, anxiety and panicky feelings which can often be debilatating, especially if it prevents me sleeping.
If you have any more ideas for ways to keep Neptune occupied constructively for the next 18 months any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks
Dominique
Oct 11, 04:07 PM
DOMINIQUE: Everything I know about Neptune transits in general is in this article. It would be difficult to tell you more. With the transit influencing the Cadent Houses, much that happens is very psychological and emotional.
Sometimes events can go on behind the scenes of which you are not aware…and you may never be aware but you can be stressed simply by the sensing.
Please read the Empath article.
The aspect to Venus at 28 degrees is an ending cycle. Neptune dissolves through ambivalance – Neptune does not like confrontations or burning bridges.
There may be emotions tied to the past, old belief andf relating patterns that need to end. This is a good time to let them go.
Oct 12, 04:13 PM
Hi,
I have neptune transiting (conjunct) my saturn in the twelfth house. Can you offer any insight in how to work with it? And if there is a particular nutrient that will support.
Thank you,
Deborah
Oct 12, 04:54 PM
DEBORAH: If you have been reading my posts here, you should know that Neptune 1) dissolves what no longer works in our lives and, 2) at the late degrees, it is an ending cycle for some structure in your life.
Everything that can be said in general about health and the Neptune transit is listed in the article.
Calcios from the Heritage Store ca be helpful as it is the most easily assimilated form of calcium. A 1/2 tsp on a cracker 3 times a week is sufficient.
Nov 17, 12:21 PM
On may 21, I had neptune square sun
something strange happened. My passport got stolen, so I ended up losing a job I really didn’t want. I was staying in it out of fear of paying tremendous training fees. Also the guy I thought i loved no longer was a part of my life. The funny thing is: he told me upfront he didn’t love me, but i didn’t accept the fact. However, I was not left out a friend of my mother’s took care of me in that foreign country, and I came back to my home country after four days.
Since neptune also is about identity issues shouldn’t it be linked to identity papers, and the like, when all sorts of things start happening to them too?
Nov 24, 08:31 AM
I was lucky to find your website and such a good explanation of Neptune transits. I am at the tail end of this i hope (02/14/1955) and in the last two years have lost a creative job I’ve had for 12 years, many friends that I thought were lifelong buddies that proved to be more friendenemies, my apt. causing me to relocate to the country. In addition the man that I was very much interested in turned out to be very married-something he concealed. There have been moments of real anger, grief, and panic. I hope I am coming out of it and plan for a trip to India to reboot and inspire. I just decided to surrender and had no interest in trying to maintain outgrown relationships and situations. It has been extremely difficult though to see my former life dissolve from top to bottom. Thank you for your insight here-reconfirms alot of my recent experiences, All the best.
Nov 29, 11:34 AM
Hello Lynn,
Where is the Empath article? I can’t seem to find it.
Regards
Dominique
Dec 1, 05:43 PM
From Elisabeth Fitzhugh…several similar articles are on the Medical Forum
…on Empath Energy – Chiron and Neptune/Pisces energy
The Empath – those who have at the core of their nature the innate ability to receive energy, information, awareness from others. If you recognize this within yourself, it is also time for you to become conscious of this attribute. The difference between an Empath and a Channel is that the channel most often is aware that they are receptive, that energy flows through “channels”, and usually the channel recognizes a distinction between the channel and the energy being channeled or received.
The Empath does not receive through channels in the same way. Rather, the Empath expands their own nature like a sponge; fills its own nature with what is received. The Empath essentially absorbs into itself all the fluid energy, all the contact, all the content of interaction with others. The difficulty, of course, is that there is then a confusion of what is in the original ‘sponge’ and that which is filling it. ‘Do I feel this way within myself or have I absorbed this from another?’
Further, the difficulty and challenge for the Empath, is that most Empaths are not aware of the intensity or fullness or their receptive nature until certain things happen that interfere with and often endanger the present self. Then they say things as, “I didn’t feel like myself” or others say to them, “You’re not acting like yourself”, etc. Hints come into the conscious mind that something other than the self is interacting in their lives. Of course, there is a whole psychological way of looking at this, but we’re going to put that aside and stay in the metaphysical and the spiritual view.
In societies of Empaths, which do not exist per se at this time, there are cultural morals and mores that develop around the Empathic nature that help balance life with such receptive energy. More importantly, in an Empathic society individuals are taught how to work with the energy; learning that received energy is then transmuted, changed, translated. The ability to change the energy, which is part-conscious, part-energetic, and can be initiated by conscious will and thought. This ability to recognize and change energy is often what is NOT understood by the Empaths in this reality.
In this culture, the abilities of the Empath often are reflected in how they deal with people psychologically and emotionally and often literally in their careers as well; people who can absorb and change energy. Empaths may serve as translators. In a job, you may take one set of information and make a translation for another group. You try to help those in two different situations find the same language, to come to an understanding. Empaths can change the energy; helping others to let go of one feeling and allowing in another – transmutation. They can step down energy that is too intense for someone else by finding another way of speaking, making a more subtle thing of it; giving the principle without all the energy. Transducing -stepping down the energy.
It is vital that when you come to recognize yourself as an Empath, and then let yourselves fully understand this element of your being. It is an element which is akin to having a health condition. Like the diabetic who must watch certain dietary things, who must manage medication in a very concentrated and focused manner, if one goes off balance with these things, one can throw the Self into crisis.
We feel, it is very vital for each of you to begin very consciously addressing the energetic flow in your lives. You learn to work with the Empath energy by first, recognizing it and then consciously addressing and questioning it. Each of you must be very conscious now of focusing on when you need to be open, when it is time to be closed. “When is this my energy?” “When am I working as an Empath?” “If I am working as an Empath, it is energy if this feeling is not of mine, what am I to do with it.” You can ask. “Can I have clarity as to what this energy is? Is this energy to be translated? Is this energy to be transmuted? Is this energy to be transduced – stepped down and then translated?” Follow your own awareness of your empathic nature with letting yourself discover and then applying for yourself — evolving, your own techniques and structures; your own way of managing your Empath energy.
The Empath also must come to understand that they must set up structures for the body to work most effectively and in balance. When you live in an unstructured ,totally Empathic state, you overwhelm the body and eventually “short-circuit”. In a way, the physical body’s limitations or, rather, requirements, [which are limited compared to what the energy or spirit of the Empath can do], in a way save you by short-circuiting and therefore, closing the situation. Thus, your physical body has saved some of you from being enamored of intensity and basing too many actions on energy that may not be balanced.
In light of all this, you can see some of your choices and actions, perhaps more so reactions, were the outgrowth of unconscious Empathic connection: connecting into other people’s’ needs; connecting into needs from other times of yourself, etc. The greatest challenge for the mature Empath is discernment and differentiation.
We see in the Empath the struggle for balance. Often there are periods of excess and then a rebalance. Many of you have gone through your own periods of excess. Now you are going to come into your own period of more conscious honing of these abilities. That is part of your job, your discoveries.
In this discussion of the nature of the Empath, we are setting forth some principles and, in a way, activating your own knowledge of these things. Then because you have this perspective, you will start to see and comprehend your own actions, and how energy comes to you and you will find the mechanisms, devices, the structures that will help you work with your selves.
IMMUNE SYSTEM:
Following is the preface to an article written in conjunction with a presentation given at The Monroe Institute:
“In thinking on my involvement with the Monroe Institute’s Positive Immunity Program, I came to see again the sympatico link between my work with Orion over the years and the Hemi-Sync approach. Orion and the Positive Immunity Program both encourage us to approach the Immune System as an element within that we can work with. In the early days, two contributors were Christian and David, both HIV positive. They were Orion clients as well and had several sessions with Orion discussing their individual and joint approaches toward working with their situation. One situation I recall was that David had a more ‘battle’ oriented approach – he visualized killing off the virus, while Christian wanted to engage the immune system to transmute the virus.
It became an argument between them, but Orion emphasized the need to keep the language of the tapes open enough to allow people to mesh their individual approaches into the scripts of the tapes. This became an important factor in the workshops I participated in – people would lock into the imagery given in the tape and become confused when their own imagery was different. As a result, we made sure to address this issue in the Positive Immunity Program guidebook; giving concrete examples of how you may get many responses to a suggestion on the tapes. I see that the Hemi-Sync approach and the Orion work is based on respect of the individuals who come to the work; a trusting in the innate wisdom available to each of us.” Elisabeth
We, Orion, invite you to explore with us another view, some new ideas on that wonderful element within you, the Immune System. Some see it as a mechanism in the body that works with energizing the system, with maintaining the system, perhaps with ‘defending’ the physical system against difficulty, stress, bacteria, assault and invasion to the body.
We ask you to consider to think of this wonderful element as a guide, a guardian; the carer of the soul of the body. A guardian element so sensitive, so sympatico, so in connection with the All of you. Connected not only with your environment within and without the physical form, connected not only with your emotions and the sensitivity of your personality and self but this dear friend, the Immune System, is also connected to further than the physical self. Connected to what some may think of as the soul, what others may think of as the All of you. Encompassing, touching into, knowing all of the travels and expressions of yourself that may have been.
Understanding this can open a doorway to forming a relationship, a communication with your Immune System. Picture the Immune System as a sea. It has an element of fluctuation, as the movement of the wave. When it is disturbed or thrown into motion like the sea, it can create peaks and valleys. It can create storms and calms. Thinking of the Immune System as a sea, gives you an image not of an even plane, but an element within yourself that is in motion and more so, this motion is natural, an expression of the natural way for the Immune System to be. It is helpful to hold the idea of ‘motion’ and ‘movement’ whenever you visualize the work of the Immune System, whenever you dialogue with it; whenever you wish to engage or direct the energy of the Immune System. All of its work occurs in ebbs and flows and although you may experience it as an intense flow or rush of energy, image instead that it has built slowly, back and forth – culminating in a wave of energy bringing support and change.
Think of the Immune System as a guide; as a part of you that is very knowing, a part of you that you can speak with. It follows certain internal laws; responds to external laws, but what is so wonderful about it and indeed is wonderful about the whole nature of your physical body and physical world is it’s extreme responsiveness and ability to change, its ability to comprehend and understand, to learn. This attribute is often underestimated and many people although are just beginning to understand that they can work with the Immune System , giving it different guidelines to follow.
The body may follow certain patterns. For instance, if a cell is growing within and the Immune System recognizes this growth it may work against it. Difficulty then arises when the cell is part of the needful cells for healthiness of the body, such as in the condition labeled ‘cancer’. The Immune System will then work against this cell and at the same time can reduce the strength of the physical body. Yet you can redirect, re-educate this guide within. If you come to this dialogue with the understanding that the Immune System has as its goal and its ideal to support you, to keep a harmony in the body, then you can come to speaking with it without anger or fear, without the sense of betrayal or attack that often people in stressful physical condition begin to experience toward their body. Your body is, in its deepest intent, at one with you. It may be that the outcome seems as if one’s body is working against you. We offer you another image, that the intent is always toward support and harmony and that you can work with the body to bring the outcomes, the changes that may be different than the Immune System itself perceives need occur.
You must remember also that the Immune System is in a dance with the All of you. It dances with your fears, it dances with your stresses. It dances with your doubts. It dances with the old messages from childhood. It dances with the beliefs of your own life, of your society’s life. It dances with the time that you live and it dances with other times you have lived. Knowing this helps you to remember that there are many questions to ask; there are many things to explore when working with this responsive guardian.
If you find that you have been visualizing or meditating towards a certain outcome and yet it doesn’t seem successful, it may be that you need to dialogue, that you need to ask the Immune System , ‘What else is at work here? When I picture health, when I picture change of a symptom and it does not come, what else is at work?’ Perhaps you can help the Immune System speak by asking the questions more specifically. ‘Are we dancing with the fear of another time, of another life?’ ‘Am I dancing with a belief from childhood?’ ‘Is a part of me remembering what happened to Grandfather?’ ‘Is a part of me fearing what happened to Mother?’
All of these questions need to be asked and often; for when you are working with changes in the body it is not a single thing. It is like the onion, layer upon layer. This dialoguing can occur simply by speaking aloud, by picturing yourself engaging with this guardian of the body as a partner, as a compatriot, coming together to harness you views, to bring an outcome of harmony and balance in the physical realm.
One does not need to only be struggling with a condition or an injury to the physical to want to engage in a dialogue with the guardian of the body. You can learn many things about yourself. You can come to clarity in many ways by this dialoguing with the sea of the Immune System. You can learn why you are drawn to certain foods. You can learn why you explore certain times of tiredness or energy in your day. Some of the information that comes to you may be information that you need to accept, that will not be changed, yet this still is information which in a complex way supports the All of you even though in the moment it does not seems one you want to have.
We do not agree with those who say good health is the ‘natural’ way of life and that all variations on that reflect a lack in the body and spirit of a being. We feel that the natural impetus is towards a unity and a harmony between all beings and all aspects of life, but harmony and unity can be experienced in myriad ways, not only in a small, even flow of perfection. Perfection is also like the sea – a moving, variable element, that is at times calm and still; at other times rolling and flowing; and at other times still, crashing and powerful. The movement of all these times together encompass the perfection.
If you approach your physical world only through the image of a singular view of perfection, you will probably come to some place of disappointment; you will probably at some point judge yourself and find yourself lacking. Yet it is not that you are in lack. Rather, it is that your image of perfection, your image of the naturalness of being is too limited, too rigid, too specific. If you allow the idea of being alive, of being in the body, of being in health to be like the sea – full of opportunity to change, full of opportunity to express in many ways – then you begin with a wide image, a varied model of wellness and harmony in the body.
Having that large vision, having an acceptance that your variation, your stress, your physical struggles may be in some place of harmony with the whole of your life, may give you the foundation to change those situations or change how you experience and live with those situation or come into a deeper, clearer knowingness of what you are exploring and what you are expressing.
Most strongly we ask you to not see illness or challenge as judgment, to not accept this as an expression of your flaws or your lacks. Instead take away the language of judgment and look at these things as those you simply must cope with – events in your life that have come through the sea of being. Events that call upon you to meet challenges, to feel emotions, call upon you to redefine, perhaps, your self, your goals or your understandings. But do consider that these events do not call upon you to judge, to turn away from, to dislike yourself, your actions, choices or outcomes.
It may be a more difficult path toward having changes occur when you speak to that Immune System Guardian from disappointment and anger, from judgment and blame – you can see that it weakens your partnership. Instead begin with an acceptance – this is as it is. ‘I will question to learn more but I understand there may be a harmony here I cannot see.’ If you speak in such a way and then engage, invite, ask of the Immune System, ‘What can we do? How can we work? Can we do this? If I picture this can we bring it into being?’ Engage yourself as a team in the process. You are inviting known elements of you and perhaps elements you cannot see or label or understand as well, to come into a circle, a moving circle of realignment, rebalancing, honoring and accepting that which is and that which can come and that which may evolve.
You can consider this talk an addition to all that you may come to know about the Immune System and health. As you learn, remember the idea of the sea, of multiplicity. When you begin to visualize or write an affirmation or receive a healing or a massage or energy work or a medication or a surgical intervention, see each element as part of a great weaving. A great Whole. A great web of interconnections. Do not isolate the elements of life. Consider that what seems simple is always part of complexity and multiplicity.
Sometimes all of these ‘multiple views’ become overwhelming and you think, ‘All I can do is focus on this one thing now.’ That is exactly so. It may be that all you can do is focus on one thing, that is why it is important that we share reminder that while you are focusing on the one thing, a part of you remembers the many things and therefore, if the one thing seems not successful or not as you imaged it or leading to a different path, you will then give yourself permission to say, ‘Perhaps there is a harmony here that I did not perceive.’ Give yourself permission to question where life takes you, to question ‘Is it needful that I accept this element?’
Acceptance is not capitulation. It is not giving up to a lack. Acceptance is, instead, honoring that you are part of many things and many aspects of living and that the conscious mind and the conscious self often can only see a certain view at a certain time. Acceptance is simply an honoring of the complexity of life; honoring the idea that there is a spiritual arena that perhaps you do not fully understand, see or comprehend. Acceptance can lead the way to change.
The Immune System is part of you. You are part of it and together you are part of much more than you can imagine. We hope these words invoke your own knowingness of your alignments and your connections with yourself.
Dec 15, 12:57 AM
27.14 Aqua DC, 28.31 Aqua Mercury, 28.55 Aqua Sun
Neptune will hit DC and Sun 3 times, and Mercury 5 times total – it started early this year and there’s one more year to go. Chiron has been there too all this time.
Every once in a while I come back to this page and read the article and comments over and over again. It gives me some comfort. Neptune rules my 8th house so there have been deaths in the family, but also ‘separations’ and hurts in other ways. Lots of confusion, loneliness, very hard time relating to other people and finding meaning in everyday activities. I felt (and still do) let down, hurt, humiliated by those who I thought should be more supportive as my superiors. I’ve been on the edge with finances which under the circumstances seems quite unfair and I’m getting really bored with fear of failing. I did have some amazing “spiritual” experiences though to which I was oblivious before this transit.
I am not sure whether I can relate to Empath energy, and whether it is brought in by Neptune & Chiron transit. I am overly sensitive to the environment and have to withdraw, but I’m not conscious of what is being absorbed.
All the advices help a lot! The hardest thing is to keep on doing everyday tasks in such a mess, but making small steps and nurturing yourself gets you through for sure.
The posts also encourage me to follow the intuition and heart, as scary and risky as it seems sometime. I started deeply believing that the best thing to do is to cleanse inner self as much as possible and swim out with eyes closed.
Thank you so much Lynn, and everyone else who posted their experiences!
Dec 16, 11:01 AM
AMBER: This is an excellent addition to the Neptune information. Thank you for posting. Also know that, when a transit occurs in late degrees, it is an ending cycle. Some endings are pleasant and others are not. Neptune ends through disappointment or dissolving.
One friend has developed a health issue, palsy in her hands. She is a physiotherapist in Europe and she knows that she will have to end the type of therapy that she offers. Fortunately, she has faith that this is because she must go into a new direction professionally.
Neptune transiting the 7th is often a time of dissolving relationships…but relationships that you have outgrown. It is time to move on. One woman had a long-term client leave for another law firm. She could no longer make enough money to be a partner in her firm. She knew it was
time to move to another, less expensive city and be self-employed, where she did not have the pressure to make a lot of money for the firm.
In 2012, Neptune will cross my 7th House and it rules my 8th as well. I am at the age when many friends will start to pass away. I see this even now with the Jupiter-Uranus Conjunction in the late degrees.
Even now, I can see the endings in my life – not bad – and a time to end some of my activities that I have been doing for a long time…it is time to move on.
Dec 20, 07:15 PM
Dear Lynn,
Thanks for your very helpful advice! I just have one more question regarding my stellium of planets in Scorpio, 12th house. Currently transiting Neptune is squaring with my natal Mars, which is 25 degrees 48 minutes in, in Scorpio my 12th house. I also have Saturn 29 degrees and 30 minutes in Scorpio, posited in my 12th house. So, soon transiting Neptune will be squaring with my natal Saturn. You have said that late degree planets indicate an end of a cycle. Does transiting Neptune squaring with my natal Mars which is co-joining my natal Saturn also indicate an end of the same cycle, or is it another issue? I greatly appreciate your advice on this matter.
Regards, Peter
Dec 20, 07:24 PM
PETER: Good question — both are indicative of endings. Saturn at 29 degrees, especially in the 12th, prefers to be self-employed, not trusting authority. Often, this can indicate a career or job change…but all late degree planets produce endings. This is not a tragic event but a time to move on and embark upon a new cycle in your life.
Dec 28, 03:30 PM
Lynn and everyone, What a wonderful find this site is – like a support group for the Neptune-afflicted. I thank you all so much for sharing and thank you Lynn for your insights. I’m getting some Clematis right away.
Hi. I’m 29Leo50 Sun in the 12th house. I haven’t seen any specific reference to this Sun in12th opposition but i imagine it’s as tough as they come. I just left a bad marriage in November and
bangthe first new romance i encounter is all deception and betrayal. Brutal, i tell you! I’ve got to stay on my own ‘til this blows over!Astrocartography is another influence some may not know about. I fairly shot out of my husband’s home like a bat outa hell – I couldn’t get out of town fast enough. I didn’t realize it til later, but I’d been living on a Neptune-Asc. line. With Neptune opp. it became absolutely unbearable. I think it’s worthwhile looking into your astro location. I moved to a Venus-Asc line, and my dearest friends have been a great blessing and support for me amid all this confusion!
Dec 29, 11:55 AM
I have written about Ending Planets in many posts throughout this website — but, true, you have to read everything to find them.
Make the interpretation of the Neptune transit as I have written here but, always, when there is an aspect to 29 degrees, it is an Ending Cycle whereby, through disappointment and disillusion, you shut the door on the past and move on to a new cycle and, with the Sun, a new life direction.
Dec 31, 12:33 PM
Thank you Lynn. I’m re-reading all your much-appreciated observations on Neptune and Ending Planets. With Neptune, Chiron, Jupiter & Uranus all on ending degrees, all of us last-degree cusp people must be going through intense shake-ups in our lives. As Amber said, it’s comforting to read what others are experiencing. One feels so isolated – as you said, connecting with a group helps. And much gratitude to Spirit Guides, whoever you are.
I wish it weren’t so painful emotionally. But then I seem to be making a lot of wishes nowadays, it’s so hard to just let go. Even my ‘letting go’ rituals aren’t working so well now. Bach’s Rescue Remedy helps (contains Clematis).
Jan 17, 07:38 PM
Dear Lynn,
A dominat theme through your website on Neptune transits is about those of us who have last degree cusps experiencing intense shake-ups in our lives. I now have transiting Neptune, 4th House, forming a T-square. Transiting Neptune is opposite my natal Pluto, 28 degrees 16 minutes in my 10th house, both Neptune and Pluto are squaring with my natal Saturn, 29 deggree 32 minutes, Scorpio, 12th House. Surely, this T-square will help give me the impetus to resolve alot of issues, in particularly disappointments arising from having natal Saturn in the 12th house?
Jan 18, 01:08 PM
PETER: Usually, the issue that commences when Neptune or any outer planet enters a T-Square or Cross will be resolved when it leave the latest degree in that configuration. That should be after February 2 2012.
When someone has a reading under the Neptune transit, I find that it is difficult for them to focus, listening to or understand what I am saying…they are in a Neptunian fog, so to speak.
Jan 20, 01:09 AM
Dear Lynn,
First of all I would like to say I’ve been so enlightened and gained so much about astrology reading your site
Please be excuse of my writing as I have ADD, taking time to read taking time to write lol and more more more time to say it.
I like to share my experience with Neptune transits-“blind love”
Neptune square Mercury-
I looked back in my chart I see that early 2003 Neptune Square to my natal Neptune as well as my Mercury.. I met a man on Feb 03 from the beginning of our meeting he told me that we are not going to have future together but I continued seeing him and felt madly in love “bind mind” with him. Now that I look back , makes me think was I stupid of what this is not like me I drop any man who tells me that…so Neptune really fogged my little mind that I had lol
Neptune square Sun
We were on and off for many times until around 2007 I believe at the time Venus was retrograde or something I thought he is back to love me for good what little I knew after having a great weekend get away just to tell me that he is with someone else what little I know “blind ego”
keep on loving him in secret ……and seeking counseling at psch doctor and meds….I also just went through Pluto Conjunct Venus double oops. scorpio girl with leo moon please don’t mess with me honey…but Neptune keep me kind and caring dancing girl in La La land.
Neptune Conjunct Chiron Neptune sextile Venus
so while I was on med “didn’t really helped I started to get some help from Jupiter transit santa helper to help myself by self therapy but help of Neptune still keep me on blind sight ……I was pretty drained at the time I wanted to socialize with people but I lost all my self esteem, I was not taking care of myself physically but mentally I was drown in my arts as well as my tears I created a collections that I am still working on……
Neptune opposite Moon
last September while Venus was dancing backward he showed up again and brought back all the sentiment with him. Once again Neptune deceived me It was like a first time I meet him . It was like never been hurt before. I was really swimming in the middle of the ocean. We see each other every weekends until he left to go over sea for a month when he came back on Jan 2011 we met again for a full weekend together and revealed what happened with his last girl friend. It took me a week “my mercury takes time to sink in the info”,, well to be precise was actually last weekend I was hoping he didn’t call me anymore. some how I came to my senses that he is not the guy I once loved and he is not even a guy I really would settle for….Here is my ending natal planets at work to rescue me for good sextile my Venus and opposit my moon. I don’t wish him harm but he better not call me he may get scorpio sting I am clean and clear. I don’t want him in my life. I feel as I gain my confidence already.
He is going through T Pluto from first house to 7th Venus 6 can 27 Rx the weekend last we met until end of 2012
I wish him mercy
AC 2aqu 23
Sun 19 sco 58 same as MC
Mercury in 9 sco 55 Rx 9th
Neptune in 9 sco 17 9th
Venus 26 Sag 20 11th
Jupiter 3 can 11 11th
Sat 14 can 23 12th
Chiron 27 aqu 25 1st
Moon 28 leo 31 7th
Uranus 25 leo 38 7th
Mars 18 can 11 6th
Pluto 7 vir 56 7th
NN 13 vig 02 7/8 cusp
Jan 20, 04:36 PM
correction to my natal planets Saturn and Jupiter both in Capricorn typo lol…..
Jan 22, 11:38 AM
Lynn, All I can say is – FANTASTIC. Thank you. Your work is incredible, and your insights are invaluable to the world. Keep up the good work. I look forward to reading more of your work. I found you as I needed more insight on Neptune and immune system diseases – I’m also an astrologer – for a client suffering a long-term Neptune in 1st house illness. Again, thank you.
Jan 27, 06:38 AM
Hi Lynn
I noticed that on 9 February 2011 approx I will be going through a transit Neptune conjunction mars.
I have my natal mars in Pisces in the 8th house. Please how this will impact me.
Date of birth: 8 November 1971
Time of birth: 10:40pm
Place of birth: Cape Town
The last 3 years have been quite disruptive for me work wise. My father has also had cancer of the rectum and has had two major surgeries. My aunt also died last year of cancer.
I have read what you wrote in your column of Neptune dissolving boundaries and found it quite profound and fascinating considering how my life has been recently.
Regards
Michele Drummer
Feb 15, 03:15 AM
My Husband, born 30 July 1967 has just revealed to me that he has been having an affair since September 2010. He is very confused about what is happening and thinks he may leave me and the kids for this woman. We have otherwise had a great marriage (his description, not just mine) After reading that he has the Sun – Neptune link in his 7th house I researched what that meant and found myself here. Can anyone enlighten me further as to what else this means???
Cheers
Karen
Feb 15, 10:15 AM
KAREN: I am so sorry for this shocking news. However, there were no Neptune transits in 2010-11 to his natal chart and he has no Sun-Neptune natal aspect.
On, www.astro.com you can have a natal chart calculated for free but having an astrological reading from an astrologer in your area might be helpful, especially an astrologer with a specialty in relationships.
Confusion does sound like Neptune but, from a simple birth date, there is nothing.
Mar 16, 03:13 PM
Thank you for explaining what I may experience in near future.
Now that Neptune is slowly moving into Pisces, I wonder about the likely effects of transiting Neptune on natal hard aspects. I apologize for giving the following info, but doing so may explain my question better: I have planets at end degrees, Saturn/Venus at 29Taurus opposing JupiterRX 29Scorpio/Neptune RX 1Sag. Neptune/Jupiter are my chart rulers.
I understand transiting Neptune will shift energies on end degree planets by dissolving what is not real, but since I have opposition in natal chart, in what different ways a Neptune transit may manifest on already difficult natal Neptune aspects?
Since Neptune transit is more or less generational, I hope my question help other similar charts. Thank you for your time.
Mar 18, 10:42 AM
MM: You are interpreting accurately the aspects as ending events. It is dissolving the past, allowing you to shut the door. As a begining influence, you start the new cycle as bit confused about where you are going — as if God has put a brown paper bag over your head. This is OK as you may not want to go where God is leading you. Have faith but (Jupiter) do NOT allow others to take advantage or tell you that THEY only know where you should go in the new cycle. Practice discrimination. With Venus and Saturn, there can be a loss of someone around you that allows you to move on or there can be a letting go of a job situation. Much depends upon your chart.
Mar 20, 12:39 PM
Dear Lynn,
Thank you for reserving time to answer my question. If it helps others, I have the following suggestion for people who have natal Neptune in hard aspects to other planets:
Let me recap my example: Natal Neptune conj Jupiter (8th/9th house cusps) opposes Saturn/Venus (2nd/3rd house cusps) and Mercury (wide orb, 3rd house)
Use Neptune’s hard aspect transit (at the moment it is squaring Saturn, Venus, Jupiter and natal Venus) to analyze where, when, how you believe you were disillusioned by house significance, then work to release.
In my case, I list deceptions I had encountered (oppositions are other people), illusions I nursed (self-worth, higher ideals, ability to communicate) and try to release them. Grounding body with exercise helps, so does structuring daily life little by little if you feel foggy.
Neptune is confusing for sure, even I – who live under its constant tug-of-war, had difficulty in pinpointing what it might mean for me.
Thank you again.
Apr 8, 11:23 PM
I already posted once, but I felt a need to write once again. Neptune (ruler of 8th) crossed my Aquarius DC, Mercury, Sun, (and more..) and will go back and forth again for another year. Now it is square natal Uranus – which is generational, but with heavy Aquarius influence, I think it’s getting personal.
It’s been a tough year, financially and emotionally, and I’m proud that I’m making progress nevertheless. I was afraid that something may happen to my father (Neptune, 8th house ruler, crossing the Sun), and it did – he passed away suddenly. (I think my solar indicates this too) I was stunned, sad and also for the first time confused about praying – the moment I wanted to say a prayer, every emotion, including pain would disappear, I felt only some cold peace, and it took me awhile to find a way to pray knowing that some things are decided and cannot be changed.
I think Neptune also may represent women. I had been falsely accused of very ugly things, publicly, by a woman. Fortunately, I don’t think it affected me much. And most recently, I’ve been accused of lying which hurt me a lot, by a person who already humiliated me in the past. This put an end to our communication, which is good, but I’m still terrified thinking I did something wrong – it was one of those things that can be seen from both sides, and from my perspective, I was protecting myself from harm by going through a loophole. From her perspective, I should have surrendered to her will and mistakes, and let my efforts slide down the drain. It will take me awhile to digest this, and I won’t be surprised if more is coming. Having a strong Uranus in my chart, dishonesty is one of the worst things, and I couldn’t stand myself being the one who is dishonest. This was really really scary, since my word and integrity are the most important to me.
And lastly, Kundalini is definitely bubbling up and doing strange, but so far only good things.
I hope you don’t mind me sharing my experiences again, I think they are very Neptunian. Thank you all for posting, and thank you Lynn for wonderful text and comments!
Apr 11, 07:58 AM
AMBER: Your experiences have run the gamut of Neptune possibilities. I often forget the accusations and dishonesty under Neptune.
With Neptune in late degrees, it is time to LET GO! Let go and move on.
One astrologer was threatened with a lawsuit if she discussed a certain “aspect” on her website — she just let it go, removed the article without a fight but sent it out to friends to send out to everyone who they knew.
It was something akin to an astrologer threatened me with a lawsuit if I did not take down all of my writings on the Vertex.
Passings is now so common. I recently lost my best friend in Prague. Then, another friend passed away suddenly. The shock caused lung and respiratory health problems…my heart chakra!
One thing I tell people to do as they are approaching a Neptune transit — DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. If people see you writing down everything, they usually leave you alone.
Apr 24, 06:20 PM
Hi Lynn,
Neptune is currently transiting my 3rd house in pisces, now opposing my natal mars(virgo) in the 9th house for the next 2 years. Mars is lord of my 5th house, Neptune is lord of my 4th house.
What kind of important things do I need to be watchful of? For example, do I have to be careful of “religious/spiritual” scammers d/t mars being placed in the 9th? I really want to be prepared, so am doing my research now. I know it can also produce “low energy” however, I’m more concerned about any kind of more serious situations because I don’t want to make any huge mistakes!
Also, what can I do during this transit to help lesson the effects? Do I do “background checks” on those whom I meet during this time, double check things before making a possible decision/direction change, etc..
Any advice you can give me would be very, very helpful!
Thank-you,
Kelly
May 11, 08:37 PM
Hello Lynne, I have really enjoyed reading your article & all the comments & replies. I too, have Neptune approaching my 8th house ( 8deg Pis). Neptune has been on my 29Aq Vertex ( was flooded out of my home ) & will conjunct Venus 6 Pis , Chiron 12 Pis & Jupiter00 Aries, in the 8th.
Along with 5 hits of Neptune semisquare the Sun close to the 9th House cusp, the last 6 years have been a trial to say the least.
An interesting thing through a very disorenting & depressing time, is a Pisces man, who appeared as Neptune crossed my Descendant ( 15yrs ago) has reappeared – in the area Ive relocated to?!
Back then, he was a dreamboat of a man, but he was deceptive & aloof… leaving me heartbroken.
He wants to be friends again now & says he’s reformed, but I am reluctant to get in any deeper with anyone nower days. ( very aware of that Venus conjuction in orb)
Natally , I have Neptune on the IC, & find myself good at massage, healing, with ability to see peoples past lives, Astrology & all spiritual pursuits… not very financial with Pluto in the 2nd, opp Venus… Im trying to see life, not as a measure of how much you own,.. more about how much you can help others.
I am humbled by the power of Neptune.
Cheers Jennifer
May 12, 09:33 AM
JENNIFER: First, always remember that the leopard never changes his spots. Deceptive men do not change, unless something life altering has occurred, but this is very rare. Do not make the same mistake. It could be simply a booty call while he is in “relationship transition.”
When Neptune transits into the 7th House, people in our life are never as they seem. One lawyer said that her ability to size up other people was ZERO! We need to learn discrimination in our relationships.
For those of us who are older and Pisces may also be on the 8th cusp, we experience losses as many old friends begin to transition to the other side. This is beginning to happen to me and I find it very disorienting.
However, I find that I am able to more easily connect with those who have crossed over. This type of connection is still not the same as sitting down to dinner and a chat in the physical but it is somewhat comforting.
Jul 27, 04:44 PM
I have Neptune square my natal 12th house 28 degrees Scorpio Neptune occurring. I find it impossible to get things done in a day, wiling away the hours browsing news, and other things online, and am currently unemployed. I have a 12th house sun in Sagittarius also, conjunct Neptune. I do feel in a fog most days, and am approaching turning 42 this November… I fear my life may be heading in a downturn. I have ideas for an at home business and the ability to begin a new project but day after day passes without me making any advancements on my plan. Oh, I research but that’s about it. What more can I expect from this long transit & influence???
Jul 28, 09:38 AM
Karrie – I presume you are asking about Neptune square Neptune at 28 degrees.
(7-2011)This is an ending cycle for you. At 28 degrees, you end cycles by tuning out, feeling ambivalent and even lost or, as some have described…floundering. So, what you are feeling is OK or natural for an Ending Neptune person.
You are ambivalent because the timing is not right. Next year may find improvement.
Aug 16, 09:02 PM
Dear Lynn,
As you are aware transiting Neptune is in retrograde motion. Having my natal Saturn at 29 degrees 32 minutes in Scorpio, 12th house, Neptune is now aspecting my natal Saturn for the second and soon for the third and last time. A recurring theme of this website is such aspects represent an ending cycle. My question relates to the impact of such effects in relation to the ending cycle. Will the impact be much more significant when such a planet as Neptune is in retrograde?
Aug 16, 09:18 PM
PETER (8-2011): To be very honest, I pay very little attention to Neptune transiting Retrograde. Yes, years ago I did make the observations that I wrote about under Neptune Retrograde. They are correct but I do not take this period into consideration when I am giving a reading.
Two possibilities come to mind when I think of Neptune aspecting Saturn as an ending cycle — there can be the passing of someone from your life (older and in poor health) or a career change.
Personal health is only affected when there is a lot of fear connected with making a change.
Sep 18, 02:17 PM
I have late degree Aquarius Mars in my 2nd house sextile Aries Venus/Chiron on my IC. I developed fibromyalgia when transit Neptune/Chiron made a conjunction to my natal Mars. Prior to the transit I had been working as a Nurse in the Intensive Care Unit. This transit marked my offical ‘burn out’ of Nursing. I have Pisces Sun-Mercury and have always been a care-giver at heart.
WHile transit Neptune conjunct Mars brought forth significant Fibromyalgia symptoms, it made me very aware (also had transit Uranus conjunct my Sun-Mercury during the same time!) of my need for Self care. As Nurses are commonly denied that right. Many of us have to hold our bladders, skip meals, and so forth, to care for others. I have since had some compassion for myself and while I am still very compassionate and service driven, I won’t neglect myself anymore.
My natal 2nd Aquarius Mars is trine my MC/NN, so transit Neptune/Chiron was also trine and I’ve been studying Holistic Nursing and my work goals are towards Integrative Care now.
Sep 18, 02:35 PM
ERIN (9-2011): Fibromyalgia is associated with the Cardinal signs (adrenal-thyroid) and it is the result of an allergic reaction to the adrenaline, which you psychologiclally rebel and recent the crises with which you must deal.
Oct 17, 12:35 AM
What an amazing array of information.
I will soon have Neptune enter my 12th. When it retrograded on the 16th of june, it blew my socks of, light was blinding, complete exhaustion & confusion. Being in pubic was sheer overwhelm, sensory & information overload. Other peoples energy, thoughts, vibrations was too much.
I have t-square moon pisces 12th 9/25, Venus Virgo 6th 9/40 & apex neptune sag 9th 9/12.
Since that time, I have been very focused on grounding practices. Essences, crystals, meditations, yoga & exercise, routine. But Im naturally worried of how things will playout.
Any thoughts on what effect Neptune will have on the t-square. or Neptune operating in my 12th house.
Im guessing a lot will be unconscious/subconscious which adds to confusion.
I would say I am highly sensitive & intuitive. But I’ve noticed my perceptions changing, or the way my mind processes or perceives is changing. I guess what I am asking is, how does neptune conjunct moon 12th use psychic ability.
Thanks again.
M
Nov 5, 10:28 AM
I am about to receive some Neptune transits. Neptune is trine my Pisces Sun conjunct Jupiter and Mercury natally. It is in the 12th house of rulership. Neptune is also square natal Venus & Saturn & IC in my natal chart.
Neptune transit will square my natal Sag Moon in the 12th house. It will oppose my natal Uranus in the 10th house. Also during this time Jupiter transit will oppose my natal Neptune from the 6th house.
As I already live with strong Neptune energy I am anticipating some familiarity at least on a subliminal level. I am about to embark on a whole new phase of life after finalising a divorce & selling up. I also have been diagnosed with mental health disabilities and am going to drop out and travel the country with my partner who is very Neptunian and whom I’ve known since childhood. My elderly father is also a Pisces and I believe my IC represents him as I closely resemble his hereditary/roots and my MC is my mother. I also have a strong interest in the metaphysical and healing arts.
So I am presuming I may lose my father during this transit as well as have health/healing issues ( I also plan on studying to become a naturopath whilst travelling) which may incorporate the Jupiter opposite Neptune transit.
The Moon in the 12th house and Uranus in the 10th house has me wondering how Neptune’s influence will impact on my security, family, isolation, independence and public status.
Nov 11, 02:35 AM
Neptune wont affect much except to give a very lucid love that span across generations
I have almost all of the things as described by Linda except from a different perspective . I actually enjoy being alone and working in isolation as i am a research officer with moon in 12th and saturn in 12th which gives discipline for solidatariy pursuits
Generally i am in good wellbeing and enjoying my life right now ! ie this is the life i wanted and i dont see anything weird with it
I get to set my own time and i get to produce work that is time independent so this is great for me
U just need to control Neptune if u have strong jupiter cos jupiter and neptune were rulers of pisces so neptune will naturally follow jupiter :)
Nov 13, 12:28 PM
I have Neptune transiting my 3rd house and squaring my Ascendant.
Nov 13, 12:43 PM
KALLY (11-2011): If you are experiencing a square from Neptune, your thinking and reasoning will not be so accurate. Be very careful when investing, esp. with the upcoming Uranus-Pluto square from 2012-2015.
Nov 29, 02:22 PM
Hi again. Sun at 29LEO50 in 12th house, with a strange, really surprising observation/question.
Neptune opposition for the last couple years, truly emotionally devastating, heart-breaking, like many other messages posted here. My life dissolved, marriage literally dissolved, threw/gave away half my stuff and relocated to a different state. I’ve been thrown into a deep ocean with nothing, but NOTHING, to hold onto.
Now this year i’m the same person – but different – and i’m in love. For nearly a year now, a beautiful and blessed love with Venus-Neptune-Sun-Moon synastry all over the place. Neptune will make its last pass in January and — i don’t want it to end! I’m learning to swim here, and don’t want to wake up and find this love has been just a dream, all illusion! (Or dare i hope that this is not illusion, but is actually the ‘new’ direction my life has turned toward? … time will tell …)
I’d thought that at the end of this transit, i would be greatly relieved to get back to terra firma and ‘reality’. Do other people sometimes have this experience of being sad/afraid to see Neptune go?
Nov 30, 07:01 AM
hi,
i am currently running neptune conjuncting my saturn at 28.23 degrees of aquarius in my 2nd house. as it turns out i was involved in a work place that closed becuase of mismanagment right after my birthday on november 8th, when neptune went direct. I teach in a yoga center, was not paid for months as employer had a “fight” with the landlord.. Now she closed down, might declare bankruptcy, then is trying to get somebody to take over the business…… I will soon have Nept square Mercury in 11th house at 1 degree sagittarius and nept oppose mars in 8th at 1 degree virgo. Is it a good time to work with other friends to start new yoga center.. or should I wait this out over next year of neptune transits? Am realizing I have to envision myself into what career i really want to do and have been blessed with positive dreams along the way. Am going to Grad school for psychotherapy and thought neptunian insights might help in client work.
Dec 3, 08:57 AM
LINDA & CLIFF (12-2011): Neptune transits (hard aspects) can indeed indicate the failing health of an older person around you. To the Sun, it is often a failing heart condition.
This is often true with an aspect to Saturn, especially in the late degrees.
When Neptune aspects a Beginning Planet, there can be some deception or just misunderstandings in a new situation. With an aspect to a Beginning Mercury, the individual can make big mistakes by jumping to conclusions. Make sure you have all of the facts.
The strong aspect to an Ending Planet can end a situation through disappointment of betrayal — but it is time to move on anyway.
Dec 3, 04:23 PM
Hi there,
I am going through the ringer. I have Neptune squaring my mars and Uranus squaring my sun and just finished Pluto square mars oppose sun.
What I am really worried about is my mars retrograde in my 10th house is being squared by Neptune. I just got registered as a Social worker and am working my first job. I was told abruptly (Uranus)last week that the person who was supposed to not come back to the position until July came back and I have to leave as fast as the end of this month. I have no job to go to. This person (was a friend who promised she would stay in touch and tell me a month before returning but also lied and assured me that she was not coming back at all).
I have also been in the public eye for animal welfare campaign.
Has the betrayl happened or should I be worried that my reputation is going to be ruinied ( 10th house). I am so afraid that I am backing out of the public eye for our next campaign for fear that the press will spread lies about me.
I am also worried that I will be accused of something by a client and lose my registration. Should I be this worried??
Dec 4, 12:33 AM
Dear Lynn:
stumbled in while looking for the meaning of Neptune conjunct Venus. I am a professional Astrologer and I would say that if a person got married during Mercury Retrograde the marriage does not stand a chance for longevity. Plus, in the
birth chart Venus was opposite Neptune this perons had lots of
trouble seeing the reality of a romantic encounter.
Now with Neptune at 29 being the cusp of the 8th house.
The veil is soon going to lift and they will see what they married and not at all what they thought they were getting.
Some years ago I read in the Mountain Astrologer that
even Astrologer when hit by a Venus/Neptune transit know what is happening but are in denial.
Michael Lutin once told his class at the NCGR, that just falling for a Pisces is like having a Neptune transit and I do agree.
Do you agree?
I just wanted to let you know that I think your writing is spectacular, clear, and makes difficult topics appear simple and easy.
Keep up the good work. I have told all my friends who are professional Astrologers to tune in.
I wonder if you have ever read the Darkstar Astrology from England, I am an e-mate with Merina who also is a very good writer. However, the emphesis there is a detailed concentration on a lot of the Asteroids. I think ever since
Pluto got downgraded people are looking for something
else should it decide to leave the solar system.
The English have great schools and do a lot more work
with Asteriods.
Where are you stationed? I am in Burlington, VT
where I have a TV show called the Lotus Speaks where I do
Astrology, Tarot, and other occult esoteric philosophy.
Such as Taoism, Wicca, Johrei, teachings of Rumi, etc.
I am thinking of moving to Boston, where they have a much
bigger Astrology community or maybe even Salem, which is close by and the NCGR up there has over 900 members.
Can’t seem to get engough interest in this area.
Namaste
SueReal
Dec 4, 07:18 AM
CRYSTAL: What you are asking requires a detailed analysis of your horoscope and this is impossible to do here. However, it might be better to consult a horary astrologer about a specific question, especially about losing your registration.
SUZAN: I know people who married when Mercury was Retrograde and they are still happily together. Of course, I would never choose to marry when anything was Retrograde.
Indeed, when someone is undergoing a Neptune-Venus transit, they do not want to see reality. This includes a minor aspects from Neptune to Venus.
I always advise people in that situation to wait until the transit is over before making any life-altering decisions.
Yes, I receive the DarkStar e-posts and I have corresponded with them in the past.
New England has a strong footing with the NCGR. I am leaving the National Board this month but working as a Committee Chairman of the same title, International Liaison.
Dec 9, 01:57 PM
Thanks Lynn,
I am not looking for an anaylsis. From what I understand the transit hits hardest when the transitioning planet is at the end of the degrees before moving into the next sign.
Since my mars is at 3 degrees sag and Neptune was at 28 degrees aquarius moving into pisces, I believe I have already felt the energy of this square.
For example I just graduated and hoped to come back to my old work site and get a clinical position. Much to my dissapointment my colleague with less senority got the job and I never got an opportunity to interview. I could have grieved it but something told me to move on. I am also going through a Pluto oppose my sun in the sixth house of work.
What I am wondering is if we or I can expect this transit to keep repeating dissapointments, illusions, deception for the next two years. My mars is in my tenth house of reputation and career. Interestingly I was in the media this past summer and I actually received extrodinary positive attention because I was fighting for a cause. However, our campaign was met with dissapointment when our supporters were elected out of office.
Should I be worried that this Neptune square mars is going to bring dissapointment and betrayl for the next two years?
Dec 13, 11:56 AM
Dear Lynn,
I am in the final phases of Neptune’s dance through my 7th house, taking me on what has been probably the worst emotional “carnival” ride of my life. I’m still riding out a conjunction to natal Venus in Aquarius / Square natal Neptune in Scorpio. For the last 4 years I’ve been involved with a man who has serious psychological issues (and alcohol dependency issues … helloooo Neptune!). I have seen firsthand the influence of illusory Neptune. The guy in question is a Sag (15 degrees) with moon in late Scorpio. To put it bluntly, I’m rather afraid that as Neptune crosses into my 8th it could signal this individual’s passing.
Should I be looking for any aspects to Pluto for either him or me?
I am planning on relocating in the Spring (after my birthday in late March). I am hoping that the fact that Saturn has just crossed my IC, and that I have an approaching Neptune trine to my natal moon in Cancer that my struggles with this person will soon be over.
I do seem to be coming out of what has been more than a decade of struggling. Neptune will visit natal Saturn, Chiron, and Mercury as it passes through my 8th.
Any suggestions on transits to keep an eye out for?
Dec 14, 08:19 AM
CRYSTAL: When starting something new (Neptune to Mars at 3 degrees), you may not be aware of everything that is going on with what is commenced. Be an observer and know that all will not be obvious.
Neptune in the 6th can affect the health, especially as we are commencing Solar Max. Support your immune system and avoid all Crises that are not directly connected to you.
Jan 6, 05:44 PM
This is all totally fascinating. Please can you help me…. I have natal moon in Pisces 8th at 3 degrees, sextile Mercury in Cap 6th, trine Jupiter in Canc 11th and opposition Saturn in Virgo 2nd. My data is 15.12.77, 19.15, Manchester UK.
In April last year I collapsed, after years of working very hard and carrying a lot of responsibilities, and spent most of the spring and summer in bed. This seemed to coincide with Neptune (then) approaching my natal moon. Then Neptune went into retrograde until November, and up until then I was definitely recovering and getting stronger and stronger. Now I seem to be losing it again, the exhaustion (and other symptoms: dizziness, heads, nausea, generally scrambled brain) are coming back. The other thing that has been happening, since the burn-out, is that my psychic sensitivity has rocketed. I soak everything up, and that can also exhaust me. I’ve been trying to find ways to protect myself from draining/intrusive energies, but I don’t always have the internal strength to pull it off. I now seem to fit the criteria for being an empath, and have had experiences where I’ve lost my grip on reality and even ‘see’ things. Eek!!!
I suspect this is all Neptune’s doing? And perhaps Chiron?
Anway, I’m concerned because Neptune is now direct again, and about to hit my moon (and I think the Saturn opposition is perhaps playing a big part here??) I’m back at work now- I have found a very good job and I don’t want to lose my job again. Should I be expecting a replay of last year’s scenario, and if so, how long do you think this this will last? (ie how long is the transit) No-one has died- as I understand can happen with a Neptune transit of the 8th- but perhaps the person that needs to die is the ‘old’ me: the high-flyer/achiever go-getter (as lent by mars in leo on the ascendant….)
Any advice of how to survive this and use Neptune’s energies in the most positive way are warmly welcome… Thank you sincerely, you are very kind to help people in this way :)
Jan 6, 07:06 PM
Lynn,
I read your website on a regularly basis because of the need to understand the effects of transiting Neptune now squaring with my natal Saturn, which is at 29 degrees 32 minutes in Scorpio. In your excellent article you have not clearly defined the differences in a hard aspect of a Neptune transit, eg opposition, square and sometimes conjunction from those of a more helpful aspect, eg sextile and trine? Surely there is a difference with a Neptune transit?
Jan 7, 09:55 AM
NICOLA (1-2012): Receiving over 1500 hits each day, I cannot give personal readings. This is humanly impossible.
Neptune at beginning degrees describes a new situation and you must exercise great caution in financial decisions.
There can be a passing but Neptune has not entered 3 Pisces — this event may not happen until 2013!
You need to read the article for suggestions on what to do under Neptune. This is why I wrote the article for my clients.
PETER (1-2012): Neptune is making an ending aspect so it will describe an Ending situation — a passing, a job change (as a result of a disappointment in another).
The Neptune article describes the “hard” aspects. And, yes, these aspects are very different. Good aspects may not be noticeable. You do not feel like working so hard unless something stimulates you mentally. Finding interesting escapes from the “real” world are supported.
Bad aspects are just that – Bad!
Jan 12, 11:55 AM
I’ve had transiting Neptune in my seventh for years and for the last two opposing my sun/venus conjunction in the first. It’s been awful. All the illusions of people from the onset of the transit to the seventh were stripped by the oppositions to my natal planets in the house of self. People I loved and valued very much were revealed to not be worth my level of investment in them. Brutal! This was so painful that I struggled, shed many tears and obsessed. I think I’m past it because I’m left with the knowledge that people are who they are and not who I expect or need them to be. This is still uncomfortable for me.
Healthwise, I haven’t been as diligent as usual and I’m sleep-deprived and low-energy. I had been steadily decreasing my nicotine intake but for the past year it’s been more. I haven’t done my annual physicals either.
But from reading up on these transits, I’ve decided to take myself in hand again. I’ve got a year left and can’t go on like this until the opposition is over.
I was intrigued by the empath material and think I may be one so this is an interesting discovery. I have moon/neptune on the IC, trine Chiron and Cancer NN.
Maybe I should look into doing some kind of counseling and use the best of Neptunian energy.
Wonderful thread, thank you!
Jan 19, 12:31 AM
Dear Lynn,
You once wrote “…early degree planets should tell me how the new cycle should begin…” I currently have transiting Neptune opposite my natal Pluto 28 degrees 16 minutes in Leo, 10th house, which is conjunct my natal Jupiter at 0 degrees 50 minutes in Virgo, 10th house, both aspects are forming a T-square with my natal Saturn. It looks to me that my natal Jupiter in my 10th house is the indication of how my new cycle should begin?
Jan 26, 03:50 PM
Hi Lynn,
Thank you I really appreciate your time and info.
Jan 30, 11:31 PM
Hi,
Thanks for writing. Your information explains much of what has happened in my life for the past 13 years.
since Neptune entered my sign, my life turned into a chaotic hell. This is not an exageration. I have lost atleast 4 jobs. Come down with severe fibro myalgia, seperated from my husband, lost all family and friends, my house and gone broke, now living in a slum which I can’t get out of. In my despair I began to look for answers. I am one of those people who takes resonsibility for my actions and life and suddenly it has spun out of control. The betrayals by family were the most hurtful and the separations still cause pain as to me there is nothing more important than family but I have accepted it. Neptune is supposed to leave my sign in a few days and I wonder just how much impact that will have on my life? and if things will turn around for the better? I really just can’t take one more hit and I am bitter about the hits I have taken as they have changed my personality greatly and taken away some of the best parts of me that will never return. That’s not a matter of choice but rather lost innocense and faith. My health has taken a huge turn for the worst and finances are almost nonexistant. what can one say when there is nothing but gray surrounding them?
Feb 2, 03:06 PM
PETER (1-2012): With Neptune, it is difficult to know when the new has begun. The Ending Cycle ends through dissolution but Beginning with Neptune is rarely clear.
You asked a good question — you will feel the Neptunian confusion and dissolution all while it is transiting your T-Square. You may not know exactly what is occurring until it is over.
Saturn qualities are the antedote to Neptune — only accept what is solid and real. Avoid all that is unclear — and document everything!
Rigid rules have saved many of my clients going through Neptune.